Gold top mushroom picking

Discussion in 'Hallucinatory Substances' started by 420DrGreenthumb, Feb 24, 2009.

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    420DrGreenthumb

    420DrGreenthumb Active Member

    Ok, i've tried gold top mushrooms afew times now and i had a great time, i was at a laid back music festival with heaps of like minded people and hippies, and was camping with some great people.

    Now i'm just curious as to the harvesting of them. I live in Australia and i'd like to know what to look for, what to avoid and any general information that would help me on the right track.
    I had a look on the net but couldnt find a great deal about Australian mushies so i thought i'd come here to be sure instead of ending up dead in a field somewhere.
    Thanks all
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    victozap

    victozap Well-Known Member

    Are you looking to grow them or to try and find some in the wild?

    I wouldn't try to find boomers in the wild. Most of the mushrooms with hallucinogenic properties are almost identical to some very posiness ones. I don't think it would be worth risking it.
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    white dwarf

    white dwarf Active Member

    Look for gold topped white shrooms usually found in cow pastures after a few days of heavy rain. Check that the gills are brown (white gills are toadstools). Break off at the bottom of the stem and place in paper bag. The psilocin and psilocibin oxidise causing the mushrooms to turn dark blue or black in about 15-30 minutes.
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    Jobo

    Jobo Well-Known Member

    The strain is golden teacher. You should try growing some yourself
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    420DrGreenthumb

    420DrGreenthumb Active Member

    So if i gather some cow shit from a paddock so it's un processed and sprinkle some rotting hay over it and water or something? Is it worth the risk with law also? i hear mushies are pretty highly classified..drug wise
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    white dwarf

    white dwarf Active Member

    You need a bit of luck but if there are cowshits close to any mushies you find, chances are it is filled with spores.
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    MatthewD

    MatthewD Active Member

    I live in Queensland, Australia, and I have quite a lot of experience with Magic Mushrooms, having picked and taken them upwards of 10 times now. The type we get here are your typical/proper 'Gold Tops' (Psilocybe Cubensis).

    Believe it or not, they are VERY easy to identify, and you would have to be downright stupid to mistake one of the deadly types, such as Death Caps, for a Gold Top. And yes, we do have a handful of the most toxic and deadliest Mushrooms growing here (this is Australia after all).

    The easiest way to identify a Gold Top, is by it's....Gold top! It's not actually golden, but moreso tan, and it will often have a 'nipple' on the top. If your suspect Mushroom does not losely fit this description, do not bother further examining it, because it's most likely going to be toxic, and there's a 99% chance it's not going to contain Psilocybin or Psilocin. If your mushroom fits this description, gently break it off at the very bottom of the stem, and then proceed to bruise and/or crush the stem with your fingers. If you have an actual Gold Top, you will see the stem turn a shade of Blue/Black where it has been bruised and broken. This can take anywhere from 10-15 seconds to 15 minutes.

    Usually the more potent Gold Tops change colour a lot faster, and this is due to a chemical reaction between the Psilocybe/Psilocin and Oxygen.

    The above properties are the main indicators as to whether or not you have an actual Gold Top. You really don't need to check anything else from here, but if you're paranoid, here are a few more safety measures you can take.

    1) Gold Tops may have a 'ring' (annulus) 3/4 of the way up the stem, so don't freak out if your Mushroom has one
    2) Check the 'gills' underneath the cap - Are they brown/dark in colour? If so, that's good! I would not touch them if they had White gills!
    3) Does the Mushroom have a 'cup' like growth at the bottom? They usually losely cover the bottom 1/4 of the Mushroom, and are almost always an indicator that the Mushroom is toxic. These 'cups' grow on virtually all of the most toxic Mushrooms, such as the amanitas. What I mean is, never eat a wild mushroom with a 'cup', since it'll probably kill you.

    That's about all I can tell you off the top of my head. I hope I have answered your question well enough, and if I haven't, feel free to ask away.

    :)
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    gangjababy

    gangjababy Well-Known Member

    You couldn't be more wrong mushrooms are easily distinguished from one another,, at least cubensis and any other shrooms you'll find in the field.
    Look in cow pastures, the shrooms grow out of the cow shit. Follow MathewD's instructions and you'll be fine. Post some pics of the ones you find to double check, I've been picking for years. Also squeeze the stem and it will bruise greenish and then a few minutes later it'll turn dark purple or black.
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    gangjababy

    gangjababy Well-Known Member

    How do you know that? There are hundreds of cubensis strains out there and a majority of them have golden tops...
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    MatthewD

    MatthewD Active Member

    Incorrect. There's only one type of Cubensis Mushroom (excluding the Subcubensis) which fits into the category of Magic Mushrooms. It most commonly known as the "Gold Top", but also is called "Golden Teacher" by some.

    Picking Tip: You'll most often find them during hot days, with recent rain (a day before is the best), in and around Cow poo.
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    gangjababy

    gangjababy Well-Known Member

    my malabars, sg30's, golden teachers puerto ricans are indistiguishable from each other.
    How can you confidently say he has had golden teachers?
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    MatthewD

    MatthewD Active Member

    First of all, Gold Tops are generally more common, especially in Australia, where the original poster claims to live. I've done a lot of research on this topic, and at least in Queensland, Psilocybe Cubensis are the main Magic Mushroom. I've never seen another type here...Or even heard of people finding/picking them.

    Secondly, if they are indistinguishable, then it should not matter anyway, should it? If he can identify one, then he can identify them all.
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    gangjababy

    gangjababy Well-Known Member

    they vary in potency and give you different trips
    listen, golden tops describe almost any cube out there, it's a blanket term describing any cube.
    I'm sure Australia has some pans and possibly some azures as well.
    First you say it must be golden teacher then you say, oh they must be golden tops.
    And of course when folks say magic mushroom they are most likely referring to cubes.
    Clearly you don't know what you are talking about, there is no way you can positively ID the shroom he's talking about with no description besides, "golden top" and no pic.
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    MatthewD

    MatthewD Active Member

    I did some googling, and I could not find any information of Cubensis mushrooms, besides Psilocybe Cubensis. Maybe Psilocybe Cubensis is the only Cubensis? I wouldn't know.

    It's true that Australia does have various species of Magic Mushrooms. However, like you admit, people are more than often refering to Psilocybe Cubensis when they bring up Magic Mushrooms.

    By doing a quick search for Australian Magic Mushrooms, it's quickly realized that the others types are more often smaller, different in structure, and do not necessarily have golden tops. So, considering all of this, it's safe to assume that it's a Golden Teacher that the original poster tried.
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    420DrGreenthumb

    420DrGreenthumb Active Member

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    MatthewD

    MatthewD Active Member

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    gangjababy

    gangjababy Well-Known Member

    it's like saying my weed is purple, what strain is it and you reply oh it must be grandaddy purp because it is purple. Forgetting that there are plenty of other purple strains out there.
    IT is impossible for you to give the exact strain with no description, just give it up.

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