Gold-good investment or hype.
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as the dollar goes down, gold will go upIs gold a good hedge against inflation or any other type of currency devaluation or is it a bad investment move for the average person's portfolio.
the dollar is going no where but down, so i would highly encourage anyone and everyone to buy gold coins
gold is going to be where its at, your investment could triple in the next 6 months
doc111
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I have a little trouble with the "Gold Investment Companies" and how you basically get a certificate saying that you own X number of ounces of gold. There have been quite a few of those companies pop up almost overnight too. Seems a little sketchy to me.
Brevity, The Soul Of Wit!
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drugreference
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u gata have the gold on hand, somewhere madolf wont look
Brevity, The Soul Of Wit!
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Bernie Madoff?
drugreference
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yup thats what i ment, gata hide your bricks
doc111
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I don't think most investors actually have posession of the gold. It's like buying commodities.
drugreference
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ya ya i no, and if u buy 1000 stocks you dnt gata clear out ur closet, i wasnt serious...but if i was thats the way to do it, if u and a few billionaire friends start buyin up all the gold and lettin it drip out u end up with the same set up as dimonds or oil
SmokeyMcChokey
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hype. it may be at 1000 dollars an ounce but before long the US dollarwilll be useless.
Brevity, The Soul Of Wit!
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$1111 nowadays was worth $40 in 1900.
doc111
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Why will gold keep rising?All the conditions that led to its tripling so far in this decade are still in place. The U.S. and Europe are still borrowing far more than they can ever hope to pay off, and financing the resulting debt with newly-created paper currency. Oil and other commodities are still in short supply, as demand from China and India soars. And almost without exception, the world's leaders seem unable to grasp the risks inherent in paper currency that can be created in infinite quanties by government.
Three more reasons:
* Gold's fundamentals are very positive. The world's mines produce about 2,500 tonnes of gold a year, while demand for gold is currently running about 4,000 tonnes. And new demand from emerging countries like China and India is soaring.
* The Fear Index is flashing a "buy" signal. This index measures the financial markets' anxiety about the dollar and the U.S. monetary and banking system, and in the twenty years since GoldMoney's James Turk invented it, each of its "buy" signals has been followed by a marked, sometimes spectacular, increase in gold's exchange rate. Chapter 11 of "The Coming Collapse of the Dollar" explains the Fear Index in detail, but for now suffice it to say continues to point to a rising gold price. Click on "Latest Charts" for the most recent Fear Index chart.
* Central bank manipulation is about to backfire. The world's central banks, led by the U.S. Federal Reserve, have been making up the difference between mine production and gold demand by secretly dumping their gold on the market. They do this by lending their gold for a nominal interest rate to "bullion banks" like JP Morgan Chase and Citigroup, which then sell it and invest the proceeds at higher rates. Because the banks are obligated to return this gold to the central banks, they're "short" the metal. At some point in the future they have to buy this gold back on the open market. If gold's price is low, they make money, and if it's high, they lose. Since it's currently high and rising, these banks are looking at multi-billion dollar losses. And as these losses mount, the pressure grows to bite the bullet and close out their short positions by buying back their gold. When one bullion bank does this, the others will be forced to follow, producing a classic "short squeeze," in which all the major bullion banks try to buy at once, sending gold through the roof. Chapter 12 of "The Collapse of the Dollar..." offers an overview of the central banks' machinations. For a far more detailed treatment, see Sprott Asset Management's 70-page report, "Not Free, Not Fair: The Long Term Manipulation of the Gold Price," available at www.sprott.com.
Add it all up--favorable demand trends, a Fear Index buy signal, and the coming central bank short squeeze--and the next few years should be spectacular for gold.
Three more reasons:
* Gold's fundamentals are very positive. The world's mines produce about 2,500 tonnes of gold a year, while demand for gold is currently running about 4,000 tonnes. And new demand from emerging countries like China and India is soaring.
* The Fear Index is flashing a "buy" signal. This index measures the financial markets' anxiety about the dollar and the U.S. monetary and banking system, and in the twenty years since GoldMoney's James Turk invented it, each of its "buy" signals has been followed by a marked, sometimes spectacular, increase in gold's exchange rate. Chapter 11 of "The Coming Collapse of the Dollar" explains the Fear Index in detail, but for now suffice it to say continues to point to a rising gold price. Click on "Latest Charts" for the most recent Fear Index chart.
* Central bank manipulation is about to backfire. The world's central banks, led by the U.S. Federal Reserve, have been making up the difference between mine production and gold demand by secretly dumping their gold on the market. They do this by lending their gold for a nominal interest rate to "bullion banks" like JP Morgan Chase and Citigroup, which then sell it and invest the proceeds at higher rates. Because the banks are obligated to return this gold to the central banks, they're "short" the metal. At some point in the future they have to buy this gold back on the open market. If gold's price is low, they make money, and if it's high, they lose. Since it's currently high and rising, these banks are looking at multi-billion dollar losses. And as these losses mount, the pressure grows to bite the bullet and close out their short positions by buying back their gold. When one bullion bank does this, the others will be forced to follow, producing a classic "short squeeze," in which all the major bullion banks try to buy at once, sending gold through the roof. Chapter 12 of "The Collapse of the Dollar..." offers an overview of the central banks' machinations. For a far more detailed treatment, see Sprott Asset Management's 70-page report, "Not Free, Not Fair: The Long Term Manipulation of the Gold Price," available at www.sprott.com.
Add it all up--favorable demand trends, a Fear Index buy signal, and the coming central bank short squeeze--and the next few years should be spectacular for gold.
CrackerJax
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Right now, if one insists on staying in the US markets (I've already fled except for perhaps a 100k's worth....leftovers), I would head into dividend yielding stocks right now. Except for the financial sector (thank Obama), most big firms with decent yields are a safer bet than gold.
Frankly, if you have the know how, jump into the asian markets... they are pulling the CORRECT economic levers (as opposed to Obama), and are up near 70% on the year.
Frankly, if you have the know how, jump into the asian markets... they are pulling the CORRECT economic levers (as opposed to Obama), and are up near 70% on the year.
doc111
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I find it interesting how these huge financial juggernauts are able the influence the markets by creating, basically shortages or surpluses, whichever will positively influence their own bottom lines. With this kind of power at their disposal there seems to be almost no limit to their power to influence or even alter market conditions in their favor.
Brevity, The Soul Of Wit!
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CrackerJax. Would you kindly move to Asia please. You seem to think so fondly of them.
doc111
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You almost can't turn on the tv without seeing a gold investment commercial. They are obviously targeting unsavvy investors but what's the end game here?
CrackerJax
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I go where the money is flowing.CrackerJax. Would you kindly move to Asia please. You seem to think so fondly of them.
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doc111
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That's pretty funny. The white house is having a huge garage sale to help pay down the debt.............
CrackerJax
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They're like super geniuses ... but not as smart.