AlphaPhase
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Non lollipopped plant day 41. It has lollipopped itself and left me with a mess, bud sites that will never develope and no leaves at those nodes by the bud sites. Fail.
giving defoliation during flower a try
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warren kirk
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She looks bad.
jacksthc
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Just about to say i love all the large buds you are getting on the lower part of the plant and i am sure all them half dead leaves are looking good and attracting insects
thats what i am going to do from now on
jacksthc
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thats how all plants look when the lower leaves bud sites don't get any light,
lets see a pic from the top of the plant and it will be full of large buds and green heathy leaves
warren kirk
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Didn't get hole picture, that's why I do, to get light threw to medium, I don't rape her. My buds larger @ bottom, my bad
AlphaPhase
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Aeroknow
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warren kirk
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Yea buddy!
warren kirk
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Lol
AlphaPhase
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This is exactly my expression when I looked under the canopy lmfao
kiwipaulie
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This has been a funny thread to read.
I've only been growing a few years and started my growing always defoliating. The last two runs I have not and my yields have been so shit I haven't even put any pics up.
Next flower run I will be going back to stripping them back on day 21 from 12\12
I used to easily get a pound per run and the last few runs have been like 10-12 oz.
Defoliating done RIGHT does work.
Having said that I would never do it to an outdoor plant, as there is no need, the sun is a beast of a light
I've only been growing a few years and started my growing always defoliating. The last two runs I have not and my yields have been so shit I haven't even put any pics up.
Next flower run I will be going back to stripping them back on day 21 from 12\12
I used to easily get a pound per run and the last few runs have been like 10-12 oz.
Defoliating done RIGHT does work.
Having said that I would never do it to an outdoor plant, as there is no need, the sun is a beast of a light
warren kirk
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I its done right, that's I've never had problem, some people like to hear themselves talk.
budman111
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Hi everybody,
My plants are doing fine after some issues I encountered, thankfully nature created this plant so resistant and strong that the plant can survive in a proper way even under my care.
Im telling you that some of them had to stay lying on the floor without light 1 month
because technical issues and now with some high energy HPS lights they are thriving ! 
They are in 30L pots with peat moss and horse manure compost, I gave them a full dosage of chemical fert NPK 8 - 3 - 6.
Also I'm making some microbes soup mixing worm and bat casts with water and honey, I don't aerate nothing cause I don't like extra-work, I left that soup rest for 1 or 2 weeks at room temperature, I let some light reach soup surface because micro-algae (basic food for Protozoans) like it, I'm just trying to replicate nature at home, I imagine the puddles where those microbes life and usually is a quiet place with no turbulence, it's just a dirty puddle I don't see why I need to aerate this stuff, of course we have here some stuff to debate.
My plants are doing fine after some issues I encountered, thankfully nature created this plant so resistant and strong that the plant can survive in a proper way even under my care.
Im telling you that some of them had to stay lying on the floor without light 1 month
because technical issues and now with some high energy HPS lights they are thriving ! They are in 30L pots with peat moss and horse manure compost, I gave them a full dosage of chemical fert NPK 8 - 3 - 6.
Also I'm making some microbes soup mixing worm and bat casts with water and honey, I don't aerate nothing cause I don't like extra-work, I left that soup rest for 1 or 2 weeks at room temperature, I let some light reach soup surface because micro-algae (basic food for Protozoans) like it, I'm just trying to replicate nature at home, I imagine the puddles where those microbes life and usually is a quiet place with no turbulence, it's just a dirty puddle I don't see why I need to aerate this stuff, of course we have here some stuff to debate.
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Alpha Grower
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I took out all lower branches and leaves as I always do before noticing there was "loliping method", I do it because if i don't I have to crawl below my plants to reach many of them, I compost all this leaves and branches (finally I'm trying to do it), I didn't know that pruning lower branches gives you more energy to top buds, if so this is hit two birds with one stone
My current strains are:
Skunks : Kritikal Bilbo, Critical Hog, Orange Hill Special, Orange Bud, Green Poison, Wonder Woman, Venus Flytrap.
Indicas: Durga Mata, Mohan Ram, Ice (Nirvana) , OG Kush.
Sativas: Desfran, Santa Bilbo, Amnesia.
Let's see if with proper care (basically don't do nothing most of the time) and some good luck I have some fine strains here.
My current strains are:
Skunks : Kritikal Bilbo, Critical Hog, Orange Hill Special, Orange Bud, Green Poison, Wonder Woman, Venus Flytrap.
Indicas: Durga Mata, Mohan Ram, Ice (Nirvana) , OG Kush.
Sativas: Desfran, Santa Bilbo, Amnesia.
Let's see if with proper care (basically don't do nothing most of the time) and some good luck I have some fine strains here.
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st0wandgrow
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Aerating your soup is important. With no oxygen, anaerobic microbes will take hold... and those are not the types of microbes that are typically beneficial.Hi everybody,
My plants are doing fine after some issues I encountered, thankfully nature created this plant so resistant and strong that the plant can survive in a proper way even under my care.
Im telling you that some of them had to stay lying on the floor without light 1 month
They are in 30L pots with peat moss and horse manure compost, I gave them a full dosage of chemical fert NPK 8 - 3 - 6.
Also I'm making some microbes soup mixing worm and bat casts with water and honey, I don't aerate nothing cause I don't like extra-work, I left that soup rest for 1 or 2 weeks at room temperature, I let some light reach soup surface, I'm just trying to replicate nature at home, I imagine the puddles where those microbes life and usually is a quiet place with no turbulence, it's just a dirty puddle I don't see why I need to aerate this stuff, of course we have here some stuff to debate.
Although this may be a moot point considering you left your plants laying on the ground for a month without light.
AlphaPhase
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Definitely aerate beneficial tea. I don't know the schematics of why besides what stow mentioned, anaerobic bacteria is what you don't want I'm pretty sure. I'm new to the beneficial bacteria scene, but have always been told to aerate.
Anyway, hope your plants do well. Ice is a bad ass strain I grew for many years.
Anyway, hope your plants do well. Ice is a bad ass strain I grew for many years.
Alpha Grower
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Thank for commenting.
I've watched some videos of microbes under microscope and I have to say that is interesting. There is an incredible amount of different tiny mates, with all shapes and forms imaginable and there are microbes everywhere on the Earth surface even in frozen areas.
It's fun that companies try to sell "encapsulated microbes" but i'm not buying it. Maybe I'll try some micorrizae but don't know nothing bout this stuff, maybe for an organic No-Till experiment, I'm so very interested in No-Till method imagine why.
I've watched some videos of microbes under microscope and I have to say that is interesting. There is an incredible amount of different tiny mates, with all shapes and forms imaginable and there are microbes everywhere on the Earth surface even in frozen areas.
It's fun that companies try to sell "encapsulated microbes" but i'm not buying it. Maybe I'll try some micorrizae but don't know nothing bout this stuff, maybe for an organic No-Till experiment, I'm so very interested in No-Till method imagine why.
Alpha Grower
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You guys were right aerating the microbial soup is necessary to success, I've been doing some research about microbes teas and soil microbiology, these subjects are very complicated but I like to keep my things simple and cheap.
This is what I understood, annual plants like Cannabis prefer bacterial dominated soils while trees, shrubs and plants alike prefer fungal dominated soils.
With this in mind we want to favor an aerobic bacterial dominated soil, so that the tea have to contain more bacteria than fungus. There is available on internet a lot of research done by horticulturists of how to get the proper tea.
From now I know that my path in cannabis growing is organic "No-Till". 50 - 100 Liters pots, with excellent soil, plenty of nutrients and beneficial organic substances as "humic acids" with chelating agents that deactivate heavy metals for example.
The number of benefits of organic "No-Till" growing seem to be endless.
This is what I understood, annual plants like Cannabis prefer bacterial dominated soils while trees, shrubs and plants alike prefer fungal dominated soils.
With this in mind we want to favor an aerobic bacterial dominated soil, so that the tea have to contain more bacteria than fungus. There is available on internet a lot of research done by horticulturists of how to get the proper tea.
From now I know that my path in cannabis growing is organic "No-Till". 50 - 100 Liters pots, with excellent soil, plenty of nutrients and beneficial organic substances as "humic acids" with chelating agents that deactivate heavy metals for example.
The number of benefits of organic "No-Till" growing seem to be endless.
AlphaPhase
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Have you looked up the "hesisenburg tea" - it's some good stuff. Kind of like making a microbial party for plants, your no til would love it
