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AlphaPhase
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http://generalhydroponics.com/genhydro_US/quicktips/OrganicHydroponicArticle.pdf
GH has an article about organic vs hydroponics. Woulda thought?
GH has an article about organic vs hydroponics. Woulda thought?
AlphaPhase
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Some interesting stuff in that pdf 
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Soilless hydroponic cultivation moderates nutrient supply by the
more exact measurements of soluble nutrient formulations, mixed
to meet the optimum requirements of each plant species and
growth phase. Many consumers select "organic" produce,
believing that this is the only way to be assured of pesticide-free
non—hazardous food. While "organic" farming methods do
produce crops generally superior to and safer than those grown by
agri-business practices, modern hydroponic techniques can put
forth equally safe food that in many cases offers advances in
nutrition and taste over their soil-grown “organic” counterparts.
But to the consumer, it's the label that counts, so an increasing
number of growers throughout the United States are struggling to
get organic certification in any way, shape or form"
"
Soilless hydroponic cultivation moderates nutrient supply by the
more exact measurements of soluble nutrient formulations, mixed
to meet the optimum requirements of each plant species and
growth phase. Many consumers select "organic" produce,
believing that this is the only way to be assured of pesticide-free
non—hazardous food. While "organic" farming methods do
produce crops generally superior to and safer than those grown by
agri-business practices, modern hydroponic techniques can put
forth equally safe food that in many cases offers advances in
nutrition and taste over their soil-grown “organic” counterparts.
But to the consumer, it's the label that counts, so an increasing
number of growers throughout the United States are struggling to
get organic certification in any way, shape or form"
AlphaPhase
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Let's pull some leaves off from our plants while we read some of this,
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Only unrefined minerals can be used on "organic" crops and these
often don't dissolve well or contain quantities of impurities, some
of which are even relatively toxic but are "natural” and therefore
“okay”, according to organic standards. For example, mined
phosphate may contain excessive amounts of fluoride, good for
teeth in very small quantities, but harmful to humans in excess.
Mined phosphate also can contain small amounts of radioactive
elements such as radium, which releases radon, also not good for
human health. Chlorides, too, are permitted for organic cultivation
but though they are naturally mined, they can be bad for both
plants and soil, especially if used in excess. Some soils used by
organic farmers contain such toxic elements as selenium, which
can accumulate in the plant tissues and produce. Amazing, isn't it?"
"
Only unrefined minerals can be used on "organic" crops and these
often don't dissolve well or contain quantities of impurities, some
of which are even relatively toxic but are "natural” and therefore
“okay”, according to organic standards. For example, mined
phosphate may contain excessive amounts of fluoride, good for
teeth in very small quantities, but harmful to humans in excess.
Mined phosphate also can contain small amounts of radioactive
elements such as radium, which releases radon, also not good for
human health. Chlorides, too, are permitted for organic cultivation
but though they are naturally mined, they can be bad for both
plants and soil, especially if used in excess. Some soils used by
organic farmers contain such toxic elements as selenium, which
can accumulate in the plant tissues and produce. Amazing, isn't it?"
Sativied
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That PDF sums it up nicely indeed. GH has a lot of good no-nonsense articles, would make good stickies in the hydro forum, "read this first before reading forum nonsense".
"In hydroponics we provide the minerals required for plant growth directly, completely eliminating the need for soil and soilorganisms. The result is much higher growth rates, yields and even crop quality than organic methods can achieve. This is not what some people want to hear, but it is the simple scientific truth - and practically all scientists and educators in the fields of agriculture and chemistry know it and will be the first to agree."
And hyroot's argument that growers are dumping res contents polluting the planet more than organic growers is far from the truth as we did touch on already. I rarely "dump" anything and when I do it's just a little higher than the ppm of my tap water. The effect of peat alone probably more than evens that out. And those poor bats whose homes get destroyed across the globe. All those bags and buckets being transported across the country or globe even. Hydroponics is all about efficiency and a clean product.
"There is an increasing public demand for methods which are gentle on our delicate planet and which don't harm the soil, water or ecosystems. Hydroponic farming methods fit properly into this system of values if used appropriately. Hydroponics protects soil because it doesn't use soil. Less water is required for hydroponic culture and consequently more food can be cultivated with less water. The fertilizers we use for hydroponics are ultra-pure and leave no residue in the cultivated fruits and vegetables. Since hydroponic technologies are more efficient than soil methods, more people can be fed with less area and ecological impact."
Hydro for indoor growing, soil for indoor gardening.
"In hydroponics we provide the minerals required for plant growth directly, completely eliminating the need for soil and soilorganisms. The result is much higher growth rates, yields and even crop quality than organic methods can achieve. This is not what some people want to hear, but it is the simple scientific truth - and practically all scientists and educators in the fields of agriculture and chemistry know it and will be the first to agree."
And hyroot's argument that growers are dumping res contents polluting the planet more than organic growers is far from the truth as we did touch on already. I rarely "dump" anything and when I do it's just a little higher than the ppm of my tap water. The effect of peat alone probably more than evens that out. And those poor bats whose homes get destroyed across the globe. All those bags and buckets being transported across the country or globe even. Hydroponics is all about efficiency and a clean product.
"There is an increasing public demand for methods which are gentle on our delicate planet and which don't harm the soil, water or ecosystems. Hydroponic farming methods fit properly into this system of values if used appropriately. Hydroponics protects soil because it doesn't use soil. Less water is required for hydroponic culture and consequently more food can be cultivated with less water. The fertilizers we use for hydroponics are ultra-pure and leave no residue in the cultivated fruits and vegetables. Since hydroponic technologies are more efficient than soil methods, more people can be fed with less area and ecological impact."
Hydro for indoor growing, soil for indoor gardening.
AlphaPhase
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It was a great article sativied, especially coming from a company that has organic products (I think? Floralicious plus? and Flora nova? I think those are organic. They lay it out nicely and in easy to understand language.
Sativied
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Another valuable PDF from GH Europe: http://www.eurohydro.com/pdf/articles/gb_pythium.pdf all hydro growers should read.
BROBIE
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GH has a whole line of organics: BioThrive,BioRoot,BioBud,BioMarine,BioWeed,CaMg+,Diamond Black, Ancient Forest. Just as much crap products as many other vendors.Just as costly too.
ayr0n
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Knott Collective
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Another point that can be made is that strict vegetarians or animal
rights activists may be offended by the use of blood, bone, horn,
hoof and feather meals to grow their food, but these are primary
nutrient sources for organic farmers.
Yikes! Wonder how many boners they used to make their magic organic sauce? Now we know the "special" ingredient!
rights activists may be offended by the use of blood, bone, horn,
hoof and feather meals to grow their food, but these are primary
nutrient sources for organic farmers.
Yikes! Wonder how many boners they used to make their magic organic sauce? Now we know the "special" ingredient!
ayr0n
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Sativied
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Couldn't figure out the best forum to post this so figured I drop it in the best thread at rollitup:
Howard Marks, the notorious former dope smuggler known as Mr Nice, has told the Observer he has been diagnosed with inoperable bowel cancer.
“I’ve come to terms with it in my own way – which for me was about learning how to cry,” Marks, 69, said this weekend. “It’s impossible to regret any part of my life when I feel happy and I am happy now, so I don’t have any regrets and have not had any for a very long time.”
Marks, a long-time campaigner for the legalisation of cannabis, has already received messages of support from his wide-ranging group of friends. Artist Tracey Emin, the journalist Peter Hitchens, Sir Richard Branson, broadcaster Zoe Ball and DJ husband Norman Cook have all sent best wishes this weekend. Hitchens has praised Marks as a “principled defender of free speech” despite taking an opposing side on the legalisation debate. Cook and Ball have described him has “a ray of sunshine in our lives”.
Marks, who spent seven years in a high-security prison in America, has been raised by fans of his bestselling biography, Mr Nice, to the position of entertaining veteran of the drug-fuelled hippy scene of the 1970s. His confessional memoir, published in 1996, made Marks a household name and went on to sell more than a million copies.
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Marks remains unrepentant about his life in drugs, but said he is sorry for the grief it brought his wife and children. “Smuggling cannabis was a wonderful way of living – perpetual culture shock, absurd amounts of money, and the comforting knowledge of getting so many people stoned,” he said.
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Complete article at: http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/24/howard-marks-inoperable-cancer-mr-nice
Howard Marks, the notorious former dope smuggler known as Mr Nice, has told the Observer he has been diagnosed with inoperable bowel cancer.
“I’ve come to terms with it in my own way – which for me was about learning how to cry,” Marks, 69, said this weekend. “It’s impossible to regret any part of my life when I feel happy and I am happy now, so I don’t have any regrets and have not had any for a very long time.”
Marks, a long-time campaigner for the legalisation of cannabis, has already received messages of support from his wide-ranging group of friends. Artist Tracey Emin, the journalist Peter Hitchens, Sir Richard Branson, broadcaster Zoe Ball and DJ husband Norman Cook have all sent best wishes this weekend. Hitchens has praised Marks as a “principled defender of free speech” despite taking an opposing side on the legalisation debate. Cook and Ball have described him has “a ray of sunshine in our lives”.
Marks, who spent seven years in a high-security prison in America, has been raised by fans of his bestselling biography, Mr Nice, to the position of entertaining veteran of the drug-fuelled hippy scene of the 1970s. His confessional memoir, published in 1996, made Marks a household name and went on to sell more than a million copies.
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Marks remains unrepentant about his life in drugs, but said he is sorry for the grief it brought his wife and children. “Smuggling cannabis was a wonderful way of living – perpetual culture shock, absurd amounts of money, and the comforting knowledge of getting so many people stoned,” he said.
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Complete article at: http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/24/howard-marks-inoperable-cancer-mr-nice
ayr0n
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