Gavita's are they really worth the price ??

Alot of people are going to be in for.a big suprise in about 5 years . You all crack me up. Iam telling all of you to start saving your bucks now and find other ways. Oregon just made 11 million in rec sales first week. Cmon. This little ride is going bye bye for 99% of us real soon. And your delusional if you dont think the big billion dollar corps arent frothing at the mouth and cant grow "top shelf artisan quAlity buds". Lol. There ready. There putting forth lobbyists as we speak. The days of indoor under expensive equipment are drawing to an end. The future is outdoor and greenhouses. And BIG ONES. 500$ a lb? Try 250$. Very cheap and heavily regulated. Ad it will be easy to purchase. Its coming alot faster than you all realize. The hobby hydroponic industry will be just about finished. Larry Brooke....the president and former ceo of General Hydroponics saw it very clearly recently. He was a very early pioneer in this industry. Built GH from his garage in the late 70's. Anyways he just sold out to Scotts/Miracle Gro in the high millions. And literally flew off into the sunset on a private jet with his family. Smart man. We need to be smart too!!!

since1991 said:

Alot of people are going to be in for.a big suprise in about 5 years . You all crack me up. Iam telling all of you to start saving your bucks now and find other ways. Oregon just made 11 million in rec sales first week. Cmon. This little ride is going bye bye for 99% of us real soon. And your delusional if you dont think the big billion dollar corps arent frothing at the mouth and cant grow "top shelf artisan quAlity buds". Lol. There ready. There putting forth lobbyists as we speak. The days of indoor under expensive equipment are drawing to an end. The future is outdoor and greenhouses. And BIG ONES. 500$ a lb? Try 250$. Very cheap and heavily regulated. Ad it will be easy to purchase. Its coming alot faster than you all realize. The hobby hydroponic industry will be just about finished. Larry Brooke....the president and former ceo of General Hydroponics saw it very clearly recently. He was a very early pioneer in this industry. Built GH from his garage in the late 70's. Anyways he just sold out to Scotts/Miracle Gro in the high millions. And literally flew off into the sunset on a private jet with his family. Smart man. We need to be smart too!!!

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Can you show us your 250.00 per unit bud pics?

Wow. Youre really stuck there. Did you read my post?

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Wow. Youre really stuck there. Did you read my post?

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Im just stuck bro. Sorry about that. Maybe i should of read your sad worried post a little better.

Ok cool man. The only thing iam not sure of is when legalization on a national level is going to happen. You think this little thing of ours is going to last forever? Theres too much money on the line. Billions. There will be very good pot out there. It will be extremely cheap to purchase, easy to obtain. And you , i and everyone else on this forum will not be the ones making money on it. That i can guarantee you. At best a few plants in the yard for personal. It will be so cheap it will not be worth it. Especially under lights. And its going to happen alot sooner than you think. Everyday it multiplies. Full on legalization will be heavily debated maybe not in this upcoming election but the next one for sure. Just prepare is all iam saying. Branch out. Make as much cash as yoh can and do something with it.

there will be good outdoor sure and lots of it but still they will have to process it in a machine to trim it. I don't see any outdoor beating the quality of my indoor. and if they run green house they will most likly need some lighting. duhumidifiers, climate controls. its not going to be cheap. mean while back at the lab. mrstickyscissors has some home grown purp that is purple thru the middle and frostier than frosty. hand trimmed to perfection?

1k gavita de, beat out watt per watt by a 315 watt ceramic discharge lamp..high times august issue, best indoor lighting.. im currently running tests. so far the 315watt cmh have produced over a gpw, tighter,more crystalized buds than ive ever had under hps..
the cmh bulbs run super cool, no cool tube needed, open hoods,great par, and coverage 2ft from bulb.. i was running 2 600 watt hids's, 1 600 mh, 1 600 hps or 2 600 hps's in cool tubes with 6 inch inline exaughsting.since switching to the 315 watt cmh bulbs my exaughst fan has not kicked on yet and no more 6 inch inline either...my room has better temp than ever with just an intake and 2 oscilating fans, 1 at plant height, 1 at reflector height.. i had my exaughst on a temp control to kick on if temps jump over 75f, it never kicked on,,,so i now have it on a timer to exaughst room air 3 times a day for 15 minutes each time..my electric bill is less than half what it was, and product is better than ever..

please look at the high times august issue, on best indoor grow lamps.. i was so impressesd,,yet very scepticle.. ive used hps/mh for 20 + years...figured id try the 315 watt cdl by boulder lamps,, im very happy with them, im curently running a 3 run test pinning them against a 1k hps,,only difference is lighting...please check it out before buying gavita!!!

https://www.rollitup.org/t/chemist77-315-watt-cdl-grow.880895/page-1

Grower ego...i got one too. Lol. I think my shit is the fu##### shit. Thats not going to mean shit when the whip comes down bro. Just start saving your cash is my advice. Dont live like this is here forever. I lived in Lake County and Hopland ....several years. Alot of people in that area living with alot of regret. Trust me

since1991 said:

Ok cool man. The only thing iam not sure of is when legalization on a national level is going to happen. You think this little thing of ours is going to last forever? Theres too much money on the line. Billions. There will be very good pot out there. It will be extremely cheap to purchase, easy to obtain. And you , i and everyone else on this forum will not be the ones making money on it. That i can guarantee you. At best a few plants in the yard for personal. It will be so cheap it will not be worth it. Especially under lights. And its going to happen alot sooner than you think. Everyday it multiplies. Full on legalization will be heavily debated maybe not in this upcoming election but the next one for sure. Just prepare is all iam saying. Branch out. Make as much cash as yoh can and do something with it.

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Im not making money on nothing. I give my medicine away to patients. Legal smoke is no where near what California and now Michigan are producing. And the patients are not stupid bro. The patients in these 2 states are experts at judging medicine.

Sorry way off topic. I will shut up. You all are rite. Iam wrong. Full of shit. I will never do it again. Forgive me lord. I dont have a flippin clue what iam talking about.

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Sorry way off topic. I will shut up. You all are rite. Iam wrong. Full of shit. I will never do it again. Forgive me lord. I dont have a flippin clue what iam talking about.

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Don't sweat it bro. You seem like a real cool guy.

What does patients and.medical marijuana got to do with anything? Thats all just a dog and pony show and we all know it. A stepping stone at best. Sure iam a caregiver and i.have patients. Only so i hope to not go to jail doing what ive been doing for 20+ years.

Im not gonna lie im starting to see the $$$ potential down south

I'm not so optimistic about the future either. It was fun while it lasted! Only got popped once. It was a good run. A couple more years would still be nice though

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What does patients and.medical marijuana got to do with anything? Thats all just a dog and pony show and we all know it. A stepping stone at best. Sure iam a caregiver and i.have patients. Only so i hope to not go to jail doing what ive been doing for 20+ years.

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You really don't know do you?

Yeah iam afraid i do know. When everything goes recreational whats the point of even having "patients", "caregivers" and medical mj "laws"???? Pretty pointless. But it sure was a stepping stone to get to where we are heading. If you think there is a distinct line between recreational and medical grades of cannabis then yes your rite i really dont know. Lol

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Yeah iam afraid i do know. When everything goes recreational whats the point of even having "patients", "caregivers" and medical mj "laws"???? Pretty pointless. But it sure was a stepping stone to get to where we are heading.

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Really whats the point? So you don't have any Aids patients counting on you? You don't have a truck driver who rolled her truck on a long haul and is so fucked up that what ever she does she's in pain? My list could go on, but you don't even know what fucking day it is. You really think they'd buy rec weed. Do you have to step your game up?

It's not his fault our market is going to shit by being flooded with product.

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Im not gonna lie im starting to see the - - - potential down south

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Well winters sure are more appealing down south.

Thc247 said:

sorry this may of been asked before but i really cant find anythin usefull i currently run 5 600 w hps in flower i have digital ballasts and the old type my extraction is fine my temps are fine i been thinking about gavitas for some time now i just want to know between a 600 hps and a 1000 gavita does the gavita run hotter than the hps or if so does the 600 gavitas run cooler than hps i like the idea of gavitas but just not sure i dont like the ballasts hanging in the tent if they generate heat

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the new deal is the double ended light...gavitas not so much...a/c cost is sky high