newbiegreenfinger
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That escalated quickly, thanks doc. Will this do the trick?
Frosty the snowman
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newbiegreenfinger
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Potassium as citrate 15%
Dr. Who
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That will work as a K booster. It will have effect on trich production and help express a plants "color" trait...)
Doc
Greenhouse;save
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So the consensus is ......this is a product that will defo strengthen and benefit your harvest when used at the right time......thx for all the info guys I've found this thread very interesting.....and will be looking into using a silica based k in the future.....
ryan1918
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Thats your problem a foot is way too far unless it's way too hot, I keep mine 6 inchs or so and am way fine with that
newbiegreenfinger
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She gets quite hot
Greenhouse;save
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Yea VERY nice.......what kind of nuetes do you give here in here cycles cannibal.....
Greenhouse;save
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Wot would you recommend as a good all round silica additive........
Greenhouse;save
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By the way I use the biobizz line-up........
Botanicare Bases, CalMg+, Silica Blast, Liquid Karma, Hydroplex, Advanced Bud Ignitor, Advanced Nirvana and B52, Bio-Ag Fulvex, Great White, Hygrozyme, GH Subculture M&B, Terpinator, Vegamatrix Hard n Quik (veg and first 2 weeks bloom, foliar spray).
I usually use Canna PK 13/14 (store didnt have any when I went so I just got a bottle of Atami Bloombastic (I only use it for 2 feedings once per week 6/7). And continue the hydroplex from week 3-7/8 depending on variety. Just cut it out when using the pk so I dont over do it!
Some are sunshine #4 coco mix, some are in straight coco w coco chips. 7 gallon containers. Only thing I add to mix is worm castings about 15-20% and some Green Sand 5-10%
Thats pretty much everything in a nut shell.
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To be more specific so people wonder why I use both LK and Nirvana.
I use LK in veg thru week 2 of bloom, then switch to Nirvana week 3 of bloom til I stop all nutrients week 7/8. Nirvana is really good stuff and you should try it out, it really works wonders for flower development and overall plant health. Its all organic too and is basically like a "spike" that I add to boost all essential elements, L-aminos and proteins.
LK is similar but it doesn't have the other active ingredients like azomite, alfalfa meal or the guanos that really push and aid flowering development. I like it alot.
I use LK in veg thru week 2 of bloom, then switch to Nirvana week 3 of bloom til I stop all nutrients week 7/8. Nirvana is really good stuff and you should try it out, it really works wonders for flower development and overall plant health. Its all organic too and is basically like a "spike" that I add to boost all essential elements, L-aminos and proteins.
LK is similar but it doesn't have the other active ingredients like azomite, alfalfa meal or the guanos that really push and aid flowering development. I like it alot.
budman111
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What is the main active ingredient in Terpinator?
I think its listed as potassium sulphate. But theres alot of different elements inside the formula. They obviously are protecting that from copy cats but I think on their site its limonen or myrcen something like that. They are the odor molecules, and the oil extracts and terpenes from some plant but idk wtf it is.
I can say using this shit makes the smells and oils flow like crazy. I dont run it in veg only mid flowering til week 7/8. Seems to work well
I use botanicare silica blast full strength, the terpinator nirvana and the hydroplex and that combination makes the flowers go crazy. Odor and resin through the roof (literally). The Carbon scrubbers I run can barely keep up with it, especially the day after you dose this blend.
As for the Terpi producing extra resin increasing oils I don't notice a huge difference between the plants I used it on and the ones I didn't. But the smell and odors is what I really do notice. You can definetely smell the difference right after the application its pretty legit stuff from what I've noticed. So whatever elements in the formula that produces the odor which (according to their website) is limonen and myrcene this shit really does work at producing strong odors from your plants.
I definetely recommend using at least 10 ml/gallon. It's also nice because the Terpi stabilizes the ph of nutrient solution. It comes out right around 6.0 ideally and using it in coco is perfect for what Im doing.
As for the Terpi producing extra resin increasing oils I don't notice a huge difference between the plants I used it on and the ones I didn't. But the smell and odors is what I really do notice. You can definetely smell the difference right after the application its pretty legit stuff from what I've noticed. So whatever elements in the formula that produces the odor which (according to their website) is limonen and myrcene this shit really does work at producing strong odors from your plants.
I definetely recommend using at least 10 ml/gallon. It's also nice because the Terpi stabilizes the ph of nutrient solution. It comes out right around 6.0 ideally and using it in coco is perfect for what Im doing.
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Dr. Who
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Gosh and begolly! What were we disagreeing on? The make up of K used for trich and terp production? The make up of K in Base nutrients and bloom enhancers?
Hydroplex:
Guaranteed Analysis:
- Available Phosphate (P2O5): 10.0%
- Soluable Potash (K2O): 6.0%
- Magnesium (Mg): 0.5%, 0.5% Water Soluble Magnesium (Mg)
Terpinator 0-0-4 : (from the MSDS pdf)
MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET
TERPINATOR 0-0-4
SECTION 1: PRODUCT AND COMPANY IDENTIFICATION
PRODUCT NAME:Terpinator 0-0-4
SECTION 3: COMPOSITION
Components; Potassium Sulfate
Now what did I say was the main source K for Base and Bloom use? K2O right?
Well look at that, I'm right, No SI !!!
Now what did I say was the most effective things for Trich and Terps enhancement? Formulations of K with S and Mg with S correct?
Oh, oh! NO Potassium Silicate!!!! These contain Mg Sulfate and K sulfate!
I'm right again on the formulations of K for trich and terp enhancement!!!
Cannabil, How did you dare to post this as proof of YOUR point?
EPIC FAIL!
Why have you not posted a paper or an article ON this BIG change to Potassium Silicate because it's more effective?
BECAUSE IT DOES NOT EXIST!
You can grow (if those are YOUR pics of YOUR plants), I'll give you that (unless of course you ARE PiK Booster)..
But the knowledge you espouse to know simply doesn't match your plant pics.....
I suspect you are PiK and a hack!
Liquid Karma and Nirvana are the same type of thing! Why are you dbling down on that?
Hydroplex 0-10-6 and Bud igni. 0-2-4 along with Canna or Bloombastic at 0-14-15 are the same type of thing! Why are you adding so much P on top of more?
Botanicare base eh? Even if you used a light P bloom of 2 (Their blooms range P from 2-6)
With all the P at play here,,,That is simply put "Too Much!" The plants would be having problems - you don't give us full plant shots do you....
At any rate.....Potassium Silicate is NOT "working it's magic" on those buds doing what YOU claim it does!
EXACTLY!!!
Hack!
Doc
a senile fungus
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Soooo, using the flawed logic above, CH4 and CO2 are essentially the same thing because they're both based on carbon?
Do you even chemistry, bro?
Do you even chemistry, bro?
Another comment from a know it all moron.
Botanicare Silica Blast is potassium silicate you idiot.
Terpinator isn't what I said was responsible for the resin content. I said terpinator is what I use to get the odor and smells to come out of the strain.
He asked what I used, I didn't get into when I use the products I just listed them in no particular order. So if you need directions I can help you understand why and when I use them. So let us begin.
Bud ignitor is used last week of veg and first 2 weeks of bloom. This initiates and set flowers faster. I get sites in 3-5 days that take usual people 7-10 days because of this product.
At week 3 I then add the hydroplex @3-4 ml gallon. And continue this for 4 weeks.
I also add nirvana week 3-6.
Terpinator is run from mid flower to end of flowering as a odor and oil enhancer.
The pk 13/14 is used for only 2 feedings once per week during weeks 6&7. When I feed the pk 13/14 I dont use the other products, so it doesnt over load my medium.
Furthermore just because a product says it is 0-10-6 doesnt mean that the phosphorus is that high since its suspended with extra molecule the actual amount of phosphorus is nothing more than a small fraction of that actual number.
During flowering your plants needs change. You should know this since you know everything anyways so idk why I have to even explain this to you. Added P&K during. Mid and late flowering serves a few different purposes. Different forms of phos and potassium also aid in development of different things. Some are better suited for veg, early bloom and late bloom.
I find the combination of the products I use to be best suited for my growing needs. And i do not need validation from you regarding when or what I need to feed my plants. My results speak for themselves.
When Im done harvesting these 2 lights I have and get over 4 lbs of premium meds that are all chunks theres no need to try and tell me that what I am doing is wrong. Thats laughible. I dont need you to tell me what to do at all. My plants have 0 issues, I dont have any problems. The only problems is when Im done harvesting and I have to spend an enitre week trimming these gigantic buds and dry em up. And that aint a problem. Thanks for your concern but Im doing more than fine thank you.
Botanicare Silica Blast is potassium silicate you idiot.
Terpinator isn't what I said was responsible for the resin content. I said terpinator is what I use to get the odor and smells to come out of the strain.
He asked what I used, I didn't get into when I use the products I just listed them in no particular order. So if you need directions I can help you understand why and when I use them. So let us begin.
Bud ignitor is used last week of veg and first 2 weeks of bloom. This initiates and set flowers faster. I get sites in 3-5 days that take usual people 7-10 days because of this product.
At week 3 I then add the hydroplex @3-4 ml gallon. And continue this for 4 weeks.
I also add nirvana week 3-6.
Terpinator is run from mid flower to end of flowering as a odor and oil enhancer.
The pk 13/14 is used for only 2 feedings once per week during weeks 6&7. When I feed the pk 13/14 I dont use the other products, so it doesnt over load my medium.
Furthermore just because a product says it is 0-10-6 doesnt mean that the phosphorus is that high since its suspended with extra molecule the actual amount of phosphorus is nothing more than a small fraction of that actual number.
During flowering your plants needs change. You should know this since you know everything anyways so idk why I have to even explain this to you. Added P&K during. Mid and late flowering serves a few different purposes. Different forms of phos and potassium also aid in development of different things. Some are better suited for veg, early bloom and late bloom.
I find the combination of the products I use to be best suited for my growing needs. And i do not need validation from you regarding when or what I need to feed my plants. My results speak for themselves.
When Im done harvesting these 2 lights I have and get over 4 lbs of premium meds that are all chunks theres no need to try and tell me that what I am doing is wrong. Thats laughible. I dont need you to tell me what to do at all. My plants have 0 issues, I dont have any problems. The only problems is when Im done harvesting and I have to spend an enitre week trimming these gigantic buds and dry em up. And that aint a problem. Thanks for your concern but Im doing more than fine thank you.
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Whats your point regarding terpinator? You even know what terp is used for? Its used for odor and oil terpene production. It isnt used to build trichomes and thc.
And you obviously dont know the difference between early bloom enhancers and ripening bloom enhancers which is evident in the non sense you spew in your posts. If you used them or knew their purpose you would know better than talking out of your butt hole. Have a good day buddy