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From scratch only! No premixed bottles of "stuff"

Discussion in 'Organics' started by iHearAll, Jun 8, 2015.

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    iHearAll

    iHearAll Well-Known Member

    Greetings fellow Earth gardeners. This thread is for organic growers who do it all from scratch. Roasted bones, egg shells, fermented plant matter, composting, screening, etc. I want to see recipes and pictures of your hell. No buying premixed organic fertilizers and telling this thread. Of course I'll allow bone meal and that kind of thing. I'll start.
     
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    iHearAll

    iHearAll Well-Known Member

    2T Em1 + 2T molasses + 1 liter nonchlorinated h2o + 1wk bottled = a new bottle of effective microorganisms. It's best if you pour 2T of water in your empty bottle, mark the level with a sharpie, pour in molasses to the level, it should sink to the bottle so don't worry about pouring that water out. Add the em1 fill her up and cap it. Burp the bottle once a day after half the week has gone by or use an air lock for beer brewing. If this gets extended further you will only have lactobacillus cultured.
     

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    iHearAll

    iHearAll Well-Known Member

    Calcium is important as well as phosphorus. Carbon is an easily used element as well. Save eggshells and bones in the freezer until there is a large enough quantity to perform an extract. Although these can be extracted together because they use the same process, I would recommend doing them separately to isolate your elemental tools. Char your recovered resources over a fire or on an outdoor oven on broil. Your house will smell bad if you do this inside. Put the bones in one Tupperware container or glass jar and pour the cheapest vinegar into the container until it cover the solids and then a little more. Let this sit for around two weeks. At least a week though. It should be fizzing. So, do need to close it air tight. It is around 3ph so not much can harm it and any bugs will done if they get in and bath. This can be used as a foliar spray if diluted 1:100 or mixed in a liquid fertilizer at a slightly stronger amount for a source of phosphorus if using bones and calcium of using eggshells.
     

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    iHearAll

    iHearAll Well-Known Member

    2T. Bone meal 2T bat guano 4T ashes 1/2tsp humic acid 1T effective microorganisms from the extended bottle 1T molasses. Picture includes bloodmeal but it should only be mixed into the soil or added to the tea if the tea goes into the soil unfiltered. Bloodmeal is not water soluble. This can be considered 12-24-24 which is suitable for flowering. Add bokashi and manuer for vegging.
     

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    iHearAll

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    Children. They grew up in a 1:1:1 Sandy soil: peat moss: aerobic compost. Mixed with bonemeal, ash, bokashi, lime, and gypsum. FYI there's two vertigo autos, two widow autos (flowering hard), and 2 bagseed from some broad's ash tray. Super indica fucks. Iv been giving them the complex tea in my previous post. And lastly I spray eme and molasses diluted about 1:100 weekly(ish). Probiotic cannabis.
     

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    iHearAll

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    Here I transplanted some seed from femenized seed co. The genetics could be anything from the indoor mix they offer (easy kush, super cheese, super iced grapefruit, double berry, critical). I started her indoors a month or so ago. Now that summer has hit I'm giving her more room to veg into this nifty air pot and then plant her in the ground later to flower. Instead of using peat moss as my source of fluffy carbon to retain water I used some composted mulched trees. Because tree mulch is slow to compost due to hard fibers and a lack of nitrogen it is up to the worms to eat and poop what they can. This is screened with the device shown below. Eastern agriculture based societies such as the phillippines, where I trained in sustainable organics, use these screens frequently for various purposes. They can be hung from large trees or a swing set type of horse. For my small scale and infrequent uses I can just man handle it. I actually did the transplant earlier today and used the screened compost I did last week. However, I saw this may be interesting information to people into sustainable agriculture or just organic cannabis.
     

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    iHearAll

    iHearAll Well-Known Member

    Cheers
     

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    Fogdog

    Fogdog Well-Known Member

    subbed Great idea for a thread.
     
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    Sunny Organics

    Sunny Organics Well-Known Member

    wow very cool man, i like your place btw. i would like to live in the woods/mountains some time lol. i need to get my hands on one of those screens to sift my castings.
     
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    iHearAll

    iHearAll Well-Known Member

    I built it. The key to getting the screen to stay attached is to use washers. The handles are shovel handles. But you could very easily use some branches from a hardwood if that's available to you. Home depot carries all the parts required. Also, thank you! Oh, and what kind of worms are you using. IV found that the African night crawler poops on the surface which make it easy to harvest the castings. Simply scrape the top.
     
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    Darth Vapour

    Darth Vapour Well-Known Member

    40 percent compost my own / 40 percent top soil 10 percent fresh grass clippings , 5 percent cardoard, 5 percent live worms water only with top dressing fresh grass clippings Water only IMG1690.jpg IMG1691.jpg IMG1692.jpg IMG1827.jpg
    clones planted May 24- 26th and what they look like as of today
     
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    Sunny Organics

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    neonknight420

    neonknight420 Well-Known Member

    This is why I love organics so much, so many great ways to grow instead of just pouring shit out a bottle.
     
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    Sunny Organics

    Sunny Organics Well-Known Member

    i have 2 red wigglers bins, and i do need to sift it or just pick out all the newspaper bits. other than that the castings are looking good :weed:
     
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    iHearAll

    iHearAll Well-Known Member

    Agreed!
     
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    iHearAll

    iHearAll Well-Known Member

    Any issues with mixxing the grass clippings in the soil? Last season I remember gras clippings being a pain to till in (with a fork). I was out of compost and subbed fresh and brown clippings in the same proportions. The grass had matted up and made it uneven in feeding. This was a 1x10 yard raised bed. The sunflowers showed the uneven-ness in the feedings. Do you use clipping frequebtly?
     
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    Darth Vapour

    Darth Vapour Well-Known Member

    No , have know issues mixing in soil its when you layer it,And leave it for few days then it will begin to chunk up if you try to break it up , As for frequency i tend to wait til its broken down when i layer on top so every 2 - 3 weeks i top dress leaving it on top of soil grass rather breaks down quick when open to the elements of 02 and weather
    when mixing into soil you kinda got to get in there with your hands
     
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    iHearAll

    iHearAll Well-Known Member

    I can dig that. *pun
     
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    Darth Vapour

    Darth Vapour Well-Known Member

    IMG1846.jpg plants are loving it all tops super cropped :)
     
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    iHearAll

    iHearAll Well-Known Member

    KIMG0238.jpg Aerobic compost without manure: its layers of carbon carbon nitrogen until its about a yard high and a yard wide. Here I have many pails of fermented kitchen garbage IV collected over a few weeks, a wheel barrow full of spent coffee I got from the local coffee shop, bokashi (probiotics), and grass clippings/pinestraw/leaves. I'm using the yard waste as my carbon and since IV found that oak leaves are resistant to bacteria Im mixing them with coffee grounds to bring up the nitrogen amount. After every layer of carbon or nitrogen add bokashi so that the end result is (carbon, bokashi, carbon, bokashi, nitrogen, bokashi, carbon, bokashi, carbon, bokashi, nitrogen, bokashi, etc until its piled a yard or meter high/wide). Just to reiterate, bokashi is fermented small grain nitrogen with probiotic bacteria. It speeds up aerobic compost so it is useable on 3 weeks, turning once a week. It can also be mixed into the soil to provide probiotic bacteria to do all of the trading between roots and mycellium. The nitrogen in the bokashi is coffee grinds (spent) and peat moss wetted to the point that it only barely drips when squeezed. The nitrogen on the compost however, is the pails of kitchen garbage, no liquids or paper trash. These were previously fermented with bokashi for at least two weeks. This step allows the bacteria to colonize and get their ducks in a row. I made this a few hours ago, so, I won't have any results posted for another 3 weeks.
     

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