Forced THC Production

Gilfman

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Okay so I know the reason stated for sensi having more resin is due to the plant trying to grab pollen up. However, reading Wikipedia about THC says it's produced to deter herbivores. I know of plants being smart in their defenses by detecting like what is attacking it, if it was to detect an herbivore attack vs something else.. you should be able to replicate a deer attack with deer saliva, etc. ("What Plants Talk About" on Netflix)

So my hypothesis is after the plant is pollenated it doesnt care to deter once it can get its seeds out, thus not producing as much resin.

What do you all think about this possible tactic at forcing resin production? I assume this would work with any type of saliva (rabbit, deer, human) in foliage would probably work. Like bite a chunk of leaf or into bud, simply trimming your plants or pulling leaves will only trigger a physical and not chemical response.

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RM3

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First off, I breed, and IME seeded buds are more resinous as they do it to protect the seeds, the cannibanoid profile is different and thus makes a different kind of high which I actually prefer but I still grow non seeded buds to see the differences.

There are lots of ways to increase trics but IMO deep blue + UV light is the best

I have bitten leaves off, didn't do much. You can use Insect Frass or aspirin to induce a SAR response but it is minimal at best IME There is also Jasmonite but like I said (and I have done it all LOL) Deep blue light with added UV and plenty of available sulfur and you too can grow trics :hump:

This is week five of flower ,,,,,
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HolyGhost23

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First off, I breed, and IME seeded buds are more resinous as they do it to protect the seeds, the cannibanoid profile is different and thus makes a different kind of high which I actually prefer but I still grow non seeded buds to see the differences.

There are lots of ways to increase trics but IMO deep blue + UV light is the best

I have bitten leaves off, didn't do much. You can use Insect Frass or aspirin to induce a SAR response but it is minimal at best IME There is also Jasmonite but like I said (and I have done it all LOL) Deep blue light with added UV and plenty of available sulfur and you too can grow trics :hump:

This is week five of flower ,,,,,
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what kind of UV light would you recommend?
 

Canon

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I flower with T5's and use ATI True Actinics for UV and ATI Coral Plus for deep blue

These could be added to grows as supplemental side lighting to achieve the same results
also don't forget the sulfur, it feeds the trics :bigjoint:

Been meaning to ask,,, Have you noticed any effect (good / bad / different) from your lighting & sulfur in your seed production and / or off-spring?
 

churchhaze

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I've always wondered if increased sulfur levels could be responsible for higher terpine levels just because it seemed intuitive that sulfur makes things smell... but i've never really experimented with controlling sulfur levels. That's always my freedom variable. (allowed to change to make other elements right)
 

DemonTrich

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my raw sweetener has sulfur in it (botanicare iirc), same as my old sugar daddy from tenhnaflora, but much cheaper than SD.
 

rory420420

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First off, I breed, and IME seeded buds are more resinous as they do it to protect the seeds, the cannibanoid profile is different and thus makes a different kind of high which I actually prefer but I still grow non seeded buds to see the differences.

There are lots of ways to increase trics but IMO deep blue + UV light is the best

I have bitten leaves off, didn't do much. You can use Insect Frass or aspirin to induce a SAR response but it is minimal at best IME There is also Jasmonite but like I said (and I have done it all LOL) Deep blue light with added UV and plenty of available sulfur and you too can grow trics :hump:

This is week five of flower ,,,,,
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Hey rid,with the led discussion we were having,think the deep blue ocean/aquarium led would replace the t5 uvb tubes? I see they get to 400nm but I'm looking for @300~nm right? Still gearing up for frost-a-thon 2015,but every time I go to shop I see different related equipment...
Know any one who's used the blue/purple LEDs?
 

rory420420

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I've always wondered if increased sulfur levels could be responsible for higher terpine levels just because it seemed intuitive that sulfur makes things smell... but i've never really experimented with controlling sulfur levels. That's always my freedom variable. (allowed to change to make other elements right)
Ime experience yes...I've done a side by side on a Canadian train wreck that was absolute crap genetics..first run with my r.o. water and nutes,second run with the well water,that has so much sulfur in it it smells like boiled eggs!
First run had NO trichs,even after I let it go long as shit..found out about sulfur,and did the experiment,got half way thru flower and could def see visible trich improvement..never finished the full flower as It was a crap strain,but just the half flower with sulfur water sold me...too bad my well water has shittons of other crap in it,so I'm not comfortable using just water and cutting out the r.o...
I recommend trying it ..
 

RM3

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Hey rid,with the led discussion we were having,think the deep blue ocean/aquarium led would replace the t5 uvb tubes? I see they get to 400nm but I'm looking for @300~nm right? Still gearing up for frost-a-thon 2015,but every time I go to shop I see different related equipment...
Know any one who's used the blue/purple LEDs?
Does seem possible, but I don't know?
 

Knott Collective

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We find that using slightly more magnesium sulfate in late flower results in better vigor, retention of leaf color and a better aroma in the finished product. Boosting the P&K in the last three weeks of flower is highly over-rated, in our humble experiences. If overdone the PK just burns up the leaves. We also keep the N and Ca slightly higher relative to the PK. We still elevate the PK slightly but nowhere near what the interwebz geniuses recommend.

bongsmilie
 

rory420420

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Does seem possible, but I don't know?
Experiment it is!
Will be uncertain tho as one half end of the tent is occupied by 1 huge blue Hawaiian,the other end with 2 other strains,so I won't have a control specimen and all subjects will be different strains..but,I'm gonna do it for the cause(cause I want snow frosted buds:-))
 
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Positivity

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Langbeinite....aka sul-po-mag is a good amendment for sulfur and magnesium. I usually include it in new soil mixes with good results

T5 reptile bulbs work well in small areas for more resinous flowers
 

King Arthur

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We find that using slightly more magnesium sulfate in late flower results in better vigor, retention of leaf color and a better aroma in the finished product. Boosting the P&K in the last three weeks of flower is highly over-rated, in our humble experiences. If overdone the PK just burns up the leaves. We also keep the N and Ca slightly higher relative to the PK. We still elevate the PK slightly but nowhere near what the interwebz geniuses recommend.

bongsmilie
I don't blame the ignorant, I blame the companies that feed on peoples hard earned dollars. Charging someone 100 bucks a bottle that costs 3 bucks to make is not very ethical.
 

RyanTrees

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I flower with T5's and use ATI True Actinics for UV and ATI Coral Plus for deep blue

These could be added to grows as supplemental side lighting to achieve the same results
also don't forget the sulfur, it feeds the trics :bigjoint:
Can these be achieved thur sulfurdmolasses? I feed with in sulfurohed by grandmas and have always had very frosty flowers, always been schooled to choose unsulphured, can't remember why tho, and I remeber reading a discussion on wether to use sulfurd or un, any answers on reasons why and why not each is good or not good would be appreciated
 
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