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RoneGrown

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u should start on LST skills and Scrog skills
rem we are growers u are shooting for only 5% amber at best on those glands if u want active high testing weed......rem when u cut the plant to the day it finishes curing the gland heads are maturing....ideally u want 5% amber 70% milky 25% clear .....over time done right that should turn to 10% amber 90% milky (rem this if u go legally and sell to shops u will get tested higher THC counts will get u a better price point)

point of note all my test are done at 5 days of drying .......so the count i have could be higher ...never held on to it long enough to really do it right

not trying to be a ass or belittle u ....this is a subject i am passionate about for years ppl talked shit ......i went to the shops i asked the owners if this would be something they would buy they all asaid yes just have your paperwork in order and they would be happy to take it with those numbers

see small plants are just to simple (they only take in so much) ......the real challenge and skill comes from tuning the feed to fit the need to the plants reading them altering the soil mix to correct issues u had with old batches ....those skills on a auto translate with photos too

like i said photos have the medical market as they can make more terepenes in the plant that will help ppl with different things (the short time with autos they just do not have the time to build the power goes to taste and smell ) .......as for Cbds market i do not know i just found a new version of CBDs for autos getting 3 seeds to test (cbd crossed with industrially hemp)

i started knowing nothing i by no means do not know it all ........i learn every time i finish a plant

auto plants are 100% feed based if u were to supply it with everything it wants perfectly and keeping to pace with the growth ....it will keep growing and growing until it runs out or the balance shifts then will flip into flowering .......this is the 1st attribute of a auto flower exploited the 2nd is the sheer growth rate shorting the time
Well I kind of agree with ugh. I'm hoping your right on the pushing the nutrients because this auto is eating! So my plan is to push with veg nutes as much as possible following the Growth of the plant. I need 200gs! Y'all big Boi status dealing with Despenser's and all that. I'm just tryna fill my prescription.
 

Psyphish

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no my bud test in the 20% thc range here is the last 7 i did

auto plants are feed based plants ........u can start them off on super soil that was made 4 times the str of photo soil and they still want more

they are nothing like a photo plant where u see burn and u have some god awful weed ......ppl talk shit about auto plants because they do not know how to grow them ....i been helping everyone increase the weight and the THC count of the plants ......i know my advice works as i fallow it myself and i see the results

never talk shit about my weed.........your never smoked it so do not be little something u have never done
i am a anal fucker to make sure my shit is some of the best around it is how a protect myself from getting turned in if some dumb ass gets caught....... i have ppl from DC calling me to buy my shit because i am on point like that ......no seeds clean smoke tight stem trim thc counts always above 18%.....that blackberry did not make my cut so i ate that QP same thing with bio diesel mass it came out to fluffy so i ate it (as in i ate the grow cost did not sell to recover it)
I actually stopped using B-52 and BudCandy. B-52 burnt my plants because my main nutrients are HIGH ENOUGH. The BudCandy did absolutely nothing but make harvest a mess, the plants were literally leaking clear sugar juice. The taste wasn't affected nor was yield or potency.
Autos don't want too much nutrients, they'll burn to crispt just like photosensitive strains. My results have improved significantly now that I only use A & B, kelp and silicon. I'm trying out Bud Factor X for the first time just to see what the SAR response is all about, but I can't see any difference in my plants yet, I have seen the effects of silicon though, I think it promotes SAR response as well.

really
i just struck a deal for 200 a oz but i only grow it ......they harvest it and clip it and jar it (i supply a area to dry in)
1 ounce would cost 420 euros over here, some people would sell for higher, but I think 15 euros a gram is the absolute highest you can charge.

Must be at least this frosty to enter my lungs. "If you ain't smoking what I'm smoking need to get the fuck from me" j/k I can try your mids.


 
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justugh

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I actually stopped using B-52 and BudCandy. B-52 burnt my plants because my main nutrients are HIGH ENOUGH. The BudCandy did absolutely nothing but make harvest a mess, the plants were literally leaking clear sugar juice. The taste wasn't affected nor was yield or potency.
Autos don't want too much nutrients, they'll burn to crispt just like photosensitive strains. My results have improved significantly now that I only use A & B, kelp and silicon. I'm trying out Bud Factor X for the first time just to see what the SAR response is all about, but I can't see any difference in my plants yet, I have seen the effects of silicon though, I think it promotes SAR response as well.



1 ounce would cost 420 euros over here, some people would sell for higher, but I think 15 euros a gram is the absolute highest you can charge.

Must be at least this frosty to enter my lungs. "If you ain't smoking what I'm smoking need to get the fuck from me" j/k I can try your mids.


b-52 is a super quick form of N and K for the plant plus a load of vits
this stuff is a mina player in my system as it can help the p[lant with in 12 hours of watering with it ....i have saved so many seeds with just a drop of this in the water and little rooting

as for the bud candy ....i am sorry but u need it the mag in helps with forming the glands the sugars in it helps with the plant (24/0 timing)


my whole system is i make up super soil 4times the str of regural stuff
b-52 5-10 mls
rooting 6 mls

organic bloom 10 mls
bud candy 10 mls
honey 3 mls

adding back in
tiger bloom 10 mls
open seasme 1 scoop
beastie bloom 1 scoop
cha ching 1 scoop
 

Psyphish

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I'm sorry but I really do not need BudCandy, most things AN sells you don't need. Carbs are good if you grow in soil, but I use sterile coco coir with pH perfect Sensi Coco nutrients (2ml A & 2ml B).

I've noticed no difference what so ever when I stopped using B-52 and I'm pretty sure the plant won't uptake vitamins through the roots.

ps. AN's Voodoo Juice is basically just water, the only beneficials it contains are DEAD. One of their most expensive products is dead bacteria water that does nothing... ridiculous.
 

justugh

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I'm sorry but I really do not need BudCandy, most things AN sells you don't need. Carbs are good if you grow in soil, but I use sterile coco coir with pH perfect Sensi Coco nutrients (2ml A & 2ml B).

I've noticed no difference what so ever when I stopped using B-52 and I'm pretty sure the plant won't uptake vitamins through the roots.

ps. AN's Voodoo Juice is basically just water, the only beneficials it contains are DEAD. One of their most expensive products is dead bacteria water that does nothing... ridiculous.
ppl say that shit all the time.....but the simple fact is i have run countless feed test in the last 5 yers

i know what works as i tried them all .......i see a new product i look at my old stuff and i swap out to see if does better or worst

Bud candy is the shit when it comes to making the glands and swelling the glands .........it helped save a person in their green house( temps got to hot the frosty went away from heat and spraying with 3 in 1 ....2 weeks of budy candy the plants were sticky again and the person got a higher price point

if u do not want to take my word for it fine .......run your own test

i only share the info i have gather in repayment of the nice ppl that helped me out when i first started ....passing their info on along with what i learned so the next set of growers are even better then us

did i say anything about any other AN ....no just bud candy and B-52 (the ones with value to us auto growers)
 

Psyphish

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did i say anything about any other AN ....no just bud candy and B-52 (the ones with value to us auto growers)
But I have used both products... multiple bottles, but I stopped because I didn't see the point in paying for something that did absolutely nothing in my garden. I've also used Liquid Carboload which is half of Bud Candy, there's plenty of magnesium in the Sensi A & B. If they work for you then good for you I guess, I can live without so can my plants.
 

justugh

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But I have used both products... multiple bottles, but I stopped because I didn't see the point in paying for something that did absolutely nothing in my garden. I've also used Liquid Carboload which is half of Bud Candy, there's plenty of magnesium in the Sensi A & B. If they work for you then good for you I guess, I can live without so can my plants.
did u run chemical test of the plant when it was done .....i have

bud candy gets a 3-4% improvement
 

Psyphish

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did u run chemical test of the plant when it was done .....i have

bud candy gets a 3-4% improvement
No we don't have labs around here, and since I couldn't notice any difference I'm not going to buy any more of the stuff. Weed is 15 - 20 euros a gram no matter how good or bad it is. I'd understand the value of 3% if it had any influence on the value of the bud.
 

justugh

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No we don't have labs around here, and since I couldn't notice any difference I'm not going to buy any more of the stuff. Weed is 15 - 20 euros a gram no matter how good or bad it is. I'd understand the value of 3% if it had any influence on the value of the bud.
https://www.cdxlife.com/

love to have anouther grower working down the lines .......make the project go faster
 

justugh

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That device doesn't seem accurate enough, also I don't have a smartphone or any other bluetooth capable device. Interesting device though.
it is based off a gas chromatography ........the design has a fawl in it as the air around it is not sterilized and cleaned like in a lab so 100% acu is not possible

the senor is first gen ......they are 80% acu

the way it works is u grind the weed up put in the sample container .......the system does a air test and baseline figures.....then it shoots a jet of air in the container and measures the results off that compaired to the back ground given u the results ......u are able to tap into their system and send the results tho using their computers getting a even more acu reading in the end with more terepenes

the senor is good for about 60-80 test need a new one (the senors get coated with the chemicals they are test hence the baseline every time and the 80% acu)

it is still good enough to do the work of calling what gets the results u want
thc
cbd senor is crap only 24% acu in this model but gen 2 comes out
terepene counts
the new system now can track THCa

as for the phone ........get a pre pay smart phone with wifi ..........never use it to call just connect using wifi signals (cost yah only the smart phone ) ....ask a buddy that has a smart phone when they are upgrading (old one will work just take out sim card ) do not factory reset it
 
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justugh

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i try to account for this in my test

i always test in the same spot the same way ......i run a ozone air filter cleaning the air for 20 mins then wait 20 mins (ozone can decay does not effect results).....giving me the cleanest air as i am going to get
 

Ryante55

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did u run chemical test of the plant when it was done .....i have

bud candy gets a 3-4% improvement
Damn bro your all about the tests flavor is what matters anyone can cherry pick a good nug an have it test high. Are you running your tests on autoflowers its impossible to do a side by side with autoflowers and if your not doing a side by side with the same strains you can't tell if the bud candy does anything. If you have run proper tests I would love to see them
 

justugh

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Damn bro your all about the tests flavor is what matters anyone can cherry pick a good nug an have it test high. Are you running your tests on autoflowers its impossible to do a side by side with autoflowers and if your not doing a side by side with the same strains you can't tell if the bud candy does anything. If you have run proper tests I would love to see them
i done base line plants ........just like a normal experiment u have a subject in the soil getting the standard feed nothing tweaked nothing modified
then u run the strain again and tweak something seeing what happens

now do this 4 to 6 plants a month for 4 years 8 months

every strain of weed is different some strains that share the same auto flowering gene do react the same so u can use that to predict what the plant will want need

that is what i do ........run a strain over and over and over again tweaking things seeing what it does making notes in my head what works ....the feed plan i use has 4 different lines of products but it is simple as hell .....i know those products in the right amounts with the soil mix i worked out does the job makes shit to lay ppl out in one hit

i want to leave and take some time off have fun ......so to do this i need a method of keeping my system going a lay person can fallow while i am gone

as for my test i do not do that...... i pick a branch 5 days into dry and i clip a bud off it at mid lvl on the branch ( uppers test higher lowers test lower i got the middle bud so test is fair other wise what is the point of it) .....grind the bud let it set in the grind for 20 mins look at for color change (when to much water is left the bud turns a darker green ) .....after that i put it in the sample case and the rest into my bong hiter .....run the test to get percents ......then hit the weed for the taste (looking for snapping crackle or pops as a sign of a poor flush the weed will taste off)

weed has to be 18% or above for me to sell it and be smooth smoke ......anything that comes off lower then my grade is turned into joints i hand out for free or canna butter material or bud to be blown for oils
3 oz jars for canna butter i sell for 100 bucks sugar leaves and buds i deem not worth selling(1 jar to lb of butter it will fuck any one up including me )


i might not have a lab but i try to hold to standards to make sure it is acu as possible so the skills are true real earn data that can be repeated anywhere else
 
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justugh

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my dry tent is a repeatable stable system

7 days .......rh at 50% max of 55% (any day tested over 55% add on 24 more hours to dry)
wind movement so the air around the buds exchange humidity to dry correct (like tobacco barns)
no light so the glands do not decay or over ripen
temps below 76f but above 70f (stay exchange rate warm air wicking away the humidity but not to hot to degrade the glands)

it is a giant humidor

if u want to give me the money to set up a real grow lab i will make sure u get your investment back with in 5 years with a 15-18% return
 
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