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RoneGrown

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I think 6-8 oz autos are the standard for what I expect. If I get less it's a little upsetting. I think the biggest downfall of autos is the inconsistency in the breeders and strains. Where photos are cloned so you basically know what your getting.
Hey Smo, I've taking a lot of pertinent info from you. That's what I'm saying tho, I'm just wanting at least 200 gs, to carry me over to next harvest. Right now auto nefertiti from Pyramid is in the making and my research on that paticular strain says 500 gs on 1 site 60 gs on the next so I guess I will have to go on personal data. However I would have never decided on this strain if it does not yield more that 200gs. However I had some bag seed that happened to be auto. And I gave it the leftovers as far as light source because I though it was still a vegging photo, it started to flower early. So then still not knowing it was a auto because it was bag seed I put it on 24th light to try and revert well it just kept flowering so I got smart and said oh auto flower duh. Threw the step child outside. By the way she got treated like a step child the whole time. One time I fed her runoff water. And still pulled a zip. So if I give a strain auto or not. Tip top conditions and only pull a zip. It better have 35% thc 1.5 cbd. For me to ever consider not crying about deficit my pockets took to grow an ounce
 

Big smo

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I use PK 0-10-10 once buds start to form. Not preflowers just buds. Also lower co2 if it's going and keep temps closer to 78. Sucks about your auto man but don't give up on them just yet. Mephisto is amazing, read they take top 3 of 600 plants for breeding. Years invested in each strain. Dinafem is another winner for sure. The PK is defo needed with them though. They do produce monstrous buds just tend to get a little fluffy if not treated right. Happy I could help man. This place is great but recently I have decided to ease out of here due to the hot headed arrogant db's

If you have the space moby Dick Xxl is an 85 day strain. It will get you easy 6zips. 2 of those or for a shorter strain the cheese and critical. Cheese gave me 7oz. My first auto was a critical and yielded 4oz. The critical 2.0 has more mold and stress resistance.
 

justugh

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I use PK 0-10-10 once buds start to form. Not preflowers just buds. Also lower co2 if it's going and keep temps closer to 78. Sucks about your auto man but don't give up on them just yet. Mephisto is amazing, read they take top 3 of 600 plants for breeding. Years invested in each strain. Dinafem is another winner for sure. The PK is defo needed with them though. They do produce monstrous buds just tend to get a little fluffy if not treated right. Happy I could help man. This place is great but recently I have decided to ease out of here due to the hot headed arrogant db's

If you have the space moby Dick Xxl is an 85 day strain. It will get you easy 6zips. 2 of those or for a shorter strain the cheese and critical. Cheese gave me 7oz. My first auto was a critical and yielded 4oz. The critical 2.0 has more mold and stress resistance.
still to weak
look at fox powder lines .....0-50-30

those powders are prefect for us ......just mix some in with a mostly organic system and u do not have to worry about flushing the soil or the plant as long as u rem for the last week of life u only water with water

i have tried with out them and used super soil at lvls that would be superman on crack (power) they still wanted more and to get that weight to really bend the branches u need them
 

Psyphish

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I've tried a lot of autos, they can be OK, nothing spectacular but OK... I'm currently waiting for my first Mephisto Genetics beans and I'm hoping they'll change my mind about autos.

Everyone always says "autos can yield a lot!"... yeah they can, but I never choose strains based on what they can yield. The Dutch Passion autos I tried yielded a lot, but the bud structure was disgusting and leafy.
 

justugh

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I've tried a lot of autos, they can be OK, nothing spectacular but OK... I'm currently waiting for my first Mephisto Genetics beans and I'm hoping they'll change my mind about autos.

Everyone always says "autos can yield a lot!"... yeah they can, but I never choose strains based on what they can yield. The Dutch Passion autos I tried yielded a lot, but the bud structure was disgusting and leafy.
i have no clue what to buy ........so i started on page 1 of the seed bank auto flower list and picked out strains i liked the names too ....sell the extra the ppl give me feed back i repeat the strain in 3 months if they liked if not i replace it with a new one
 

Big smo

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I've tried a lot of autos, they can be OK, nothing spectacular but OK... I'm currently waiting for my first Mephisto Genetics beans and I'm hoping they'll change my mind about autos.

Everyone always says "autos can yield a lot!"... yeah they can, but I never choose strains based on what they can yield. The Dutch Passion autos I tried yielded a lot, but the bud structure was disgusting and leafy.

Not trying to be a dick even though its inevitable. People here grow some thick fat autos. Others who try it and fail say they suck. Disgusting and leafy. Now either some of us are lucky or the people who say they suck aren't experienced enough with them. They can't "suck" if justugh pulled 28 or whatever oz off of one. Make sense?

I just gave a very experienced photo grower some of the best auto advice I think possible. Forget everything you know, then start your seeds. Some of it carries over but for the most part they can't be treated the same. People always ask why autos. Over the last year they have evolved so much and yields/quality have doubled. Imagine another couple years? I think the auto thing will be the new era for growing. In time and with always changing genetics things will get better and better. I think it hits the point of 80 day seed to chop will be 1lb average and more for experience.
 

Psyphish

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Not trying to be a dick even though its inevitable. People here grow some thick fat autos. Others who try it and fail say they suck. Disgusting and leafy. Now either some of us are lucky or the people who say they suck aren't experienced enough with them. They can't "suck" if justugh pulled 28 or whatever oz off of one. Make sense?

I just gave a very experienced photo grower some of the best auto advice I think possible. Forget everything you know, then start your seeds. Some of it carries over but for the most part they can't be treated the same. People always ask why autos. Over the last year they have evolved so much and yields/quality have doubled. Imagine another couple years? I think the auto thing will be the new era for growing. In time and with always changing genetics things will get better and better. I think it hits the point of 80 day seed to chop will be 1lb average and more for experience.
Could be I don't know how to grow. I started with autos and have been growing them at least once a year, they're good for filling empty veg spaces etc.

Here's a DP Auto Blueberry, AutoXtreme and a Blue AutoMazar, Leafy as hell IMO. Last pic is Dinafem auto cheese dry and a MDanzig Spyder. But yeah, everytime I only have autobuds in my jars I get depressed lol.





 
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justugh

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Could be I don't know how to grow. I started with autos and have been growing them at least once a year, they're good for filling empty veg spaces etc.

Here's a DP Auto Blueberry, AutoXtreme and a Blue AutoMazar, Leafy as hell IMO. Last pic is Dinafem auto cheese dry and a MDanzig Spyder. But yeah, everytime I only have autobuds in my jars I get depressed lol.





u get depressed over that .........ok man i am fucking nutzo freely admit i do not think like most ppl .....but depressed over that u need to seek medical help man something is wrong in the head not in a good way ( i think u have bud dysmorphia u know a skinny person see a fat them in the mirror)

what i am seeing there is very respectful go at autos ........your just missing the last few tweaks to be prefect

some plants are leafy that is just the way they are ......as long as they have crystals on them u leave for the sugar trim ....then it just more material for oil of cannabutter

i can see 2 things that will improve your plants from here
1 b-52............... 10 mls per gallon from week 2 to last week before harvest
2 bud candy ......10 mls per gallon start at plant stretch all the way to last week before cutting
 

RoneGrown

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No offense justugh, but your flower sound maxed out and harsh. As ive been reading thru thus thread. You just constantra telling folks to up the nutes. Now I'm not one to stress to heavy on nute burn but I've heavy fear and did a 10 day flush and I could still see it could of wen a couple more days. I guess I'm just saying nutes aren't always best. Pk13/14 if Givin toof heavy gives you a little nuts burn. I couldn't imagine 30/54 of something you said
 

RoneGrown

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I use PK 0-10-10 once buds start to form. Not preflowers just buds. Also lower co2 if it's going and keep temps closer to 78. Sucks about your auto man but don't give up on them just yet. Mephisto is amazing, read they take top 3 of 600 plants for breeding. Years invested in each strain. Dinafem is another winner for sure. The PK is defo needed with them though. They do produce monstrous buds just tend to get a little fluffy if not treated right. Happy I could help man. This place is great but recently I have decided to ease out of here due to the hot headed arrogant db's

If you have the space moby Dick Xxl is an 85 day strain. It will get you easy 6zips. 2 of those or for a shorter strain the cheese and critical. Cheese gave me 7oz. My first auto was a critical and yielded 4oz. The critical 2.0 has more mold and stress resistance.
Where do get you dick XXL from. I'm trying a critical cross for auto. I also am looking at God Bud and Money Maker
 

justugh

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No offense justugh, but your flower sound maxed out and harsh. As ive been reading thru thus thread. You just constantra telling folks to up the nutes. Now I'm not one to stress to heavy on nute burn but I've heavy fear and did a 10 day flush and I could still see it could of wen a couple more days. I guess I'm just saying nutes aren't always best. Pk13/14 if Givin toof heavy gives you a little nuts burn. I couldn't imagine 30/54 of something you said
no my bud test in the 20% thc range here is the last 7 i did

auto plants are feed based plants ........u can start them off on super soil that was made 4 times the str of photo soil and they still want more

they are nothing like a photo plant where u see burn and u have some god awful weed ......ppl talk shit about auto plants because they do not know how to grow them ....i been helping everyone increase the weight and the THC count of the plants ......i know my advice works as i fallow it myself and i see the results

never talk shit about my weed.........your never smoked it so do not be little something u have never done
i am a anal fucker to make sure my shit is some of the best around it is how a protect myself from getting turned in if some dumb ass gets caught....... i have ppl from DC calling me to buy my shit because i am on point like that ......no seeds clean smoke tight stem trim thc counts always above 18%.....that blackberry did not make my cut so i ate that QP same thing with bio diesel mass it came out to fluffy so i ate it (as in i ate the grow cost did not sell to recover it)
 

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RoneGrown

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Ok that's cool. I said no offence. Maybe I'm just not that great as of now. Also have you heard about auto Nefertiti from pyramid. It suppose to be a cross from whit widow and black widow .
 

Ryante55

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hey


i am one of u i spent the last 4 years of my life working with auto plants......learning the strains and tricks to get them to make some damn good smoke

now i am writting to tell u ..........the other ppl are wrong auto flowers are not a a watse of time and the shops will buy them (i was just in oregon and i asked over in 10 shops if they would buy auto flower ........they said yes they might even have some on the shelf now they can not tell )

the stores themselves can not tell not from the smoke not from the taste not from the test ..............aslong as the plant has a good taste and dece
Could be I don't know how to grow. I started with autos and have been growing them at least once a year, they're good for filling empty veg spaces etc.

Here's a DP Auto Blueberry, AutoXtreme and a Blue AutoMazar, Leafy as hell IMO. Last pic is Dinafem auto cheese dry and a MDanzig Spyder. But yeah, everytime I only have autobuds in my jars I get depressed lol.






I agree autos I've grown get sold cheap or given away I hate smoking them even when they look good they don't compare to photos and if you have to double your nutes and add the extra hours of light its a wast of money. Bet auto ever is feminized photo seeds 12/12 from seed same harvest time better crop same or better yield
 

justugh

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I agree autos I've grown get sold cheap or given away I hate smoking them even when they look good they don't compare to photos and if you have to double your nutes and add the extra hours of light its a wast of money. Bet auto ever is feminized photo seeds 12/12 from seed same harvest time better crop same or better yield

i have chemical test provening Autos can out do photos ........thc and the taste terepenes .......the only thing photo has over autos is the medical as the photos have more time to produce terepenes in higher lvls other then just the scent and taste
medical sales are only 1/3 the total sales so it does not really hurt me running autos for wreck ppl

if your thinking was right then auto plants would not be accepted by any shop ............your idea is wrong as shops will accept auto plants (the shops have no clue if it is a auto plant or a photo plant)....they want the THC count high with a good clean smoke that is it

run the numbers
auto plants make more then photo plants with less everything
really run them look for yourself growing and selling autos are cheaper then growing and selling photos just due to the fact u need a 12/12 time for flower (photos needs 2 times the lights 2 times the support gear to run a none stop production line )

really run the numbers u are wrong .....it is funny
 

justugh

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u can say all u want

it comes down to the numbers ........auto plants are a better choice for selling then photos
i can produce more then u can on the same area in the same extact set up in 1 years time .......i am not lmited to clones to keep my time tables ....u can offer 12 15 strains i can offer 30-45 different strains a year only repeating the ones ppl tell me they want

where u have 20 lbs of 1 kind of weed........ i have 1 lb of 20 kinds of weed (who do u think will sell out first )

unless they are allowing u to market your weed to anouther state u are going to be hussling your smoke up to 200 miles away .........ppl get tried of the same old they want new tastes
 

Ryante55

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i have chemical test provening Autos can out do photos ........thc and the taste terepenes .......the only thing photo has over autos is the medical as the photos have more time to produce terepenes in higher lvls other then just the scent and taste
medical sales are only 1/3 the total sales so it does not really hurt me running autos for wreck ppl

if your thinking was right then auto plants would not be accepted by any shop ............your idea is wrong as shops will accept auto plants (the shops have no clue if it is a auto plant or a photo plant)....they want the THC count high with a good clean smoke that is it

run the numbers
auto plants make more then photo plants with less everything
really run them look for yourself growing and selling autos are cheaper then growing and selling photos just due to the fact u need a 12/12 time for flower (photos needs 2 times the lights 2 times the support gear to run a none stop production line )

really run the numbers u are wrong .....it is funny
Ya I've seen some garbage weed at shops being at a shop doesn't mean anything alot of growers keep the best nugs for themselves and their friends do you make your own seeds? Seeds get expensive when you can cut your own clones from photos. I'm sure your right with the perfect setup you can make money with autos but it's not all about making money and I would rather run my lights 12 hours makethes equipment last longer
 
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