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Stephenj37826

Stephenj37826

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J Bleezy said:
My first run with the spyder or any LED and I'm getting some bleaching on the tips of the buds at 20 inches from the light. The cables that you hook up to mount it are 15" long, so I'm maxed out on height now. Lol I paid extra for the adjustable cables and still it's gonna be a pain in the ass to raise my light to where I need it. I'm thinking about taking it down and finishing them under my new cxb's.View attachment 3601388 View attachment 3601389 View attachment 3601390
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I'm a CREE follower myself but I wouldn't change that light out during flower. The spectrum change will affect the plants negatively for a few days which is crucial in flower. Raise the light if possible this run. This is coming from a cree light manufacturer by the way lol.
 
Mr. Candiano

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J Bleezy said:
My first run with the spyder or any LED and I'm getting some bleaching on the tips of the buds at 20 inches from the light. The cables that you hook up to mount it are 15" long, so I'm maxed out on height now. Lol I paid extra for the adjustable cables and still it's gonna be a pain in the ass to raise my light to where I need it. I'm thinking about taking it down and finishing them under my new cxb's.View attachment 3601388 View attachment 3601389 View attachment 3601390
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That's more than enough height. Use different hangers raise heigher. If the the same problem is happening it may be another issue deficiency of some sort. Never had that problem. learning a lot about cxb set ups.
 
J Bleezy

J Bleezy

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Mr. Candiano said:
That's more than enough height. Use different hangers raise heigher. If the the same problem is happening it may be another issue deficiency of some sort. Never had that problem. learning a lot about cxb set ups.
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? How can you tell how much height I have from the pic? The pic only shows the cables, doesn't show you how much height I have in my room. Trust me when I say it is not enough height. And definitely not a deficiency. And yes if BML didn't make it suck a pain in the ass to find cables to mount the light, than I would've changed hangers...
 
J Bleezy

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Now I think I may have misunderstood you when you said that'smore than enough height, you were saying 20 inches from canopy is more than enough. I also have 2x 1000w hps in the room, so they are getting a lot of light, it's only happening the the ones under the spyder.
 
Mr. Candiano

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littlejacob said:
My cxb3590 @1400mA are 56% efficient!
How efficient is the bml?
CU
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J Bleezy said:
? How can you tell how much height I have from the pic? The pic only shows the cables, doesn't show you how much height I have in my room. Trust me when I say it is not enough height. And definitely not a deficiency. And yes if BML didn't make it suck a pain in the ass to find cables to mount the light, than I would've changed hangers...
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Just a thought but the hangers are long so figured you could rig something up for shorter hangers to increase height. Plenty of light for sure.
 
J Bleezy

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Mr. Candiano said:
Just a thought but the hangers are long so figured you could rig something up for shorter hangers to increase height. Plenty of light for sure.
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Yeah I was thinking about buying some small chains and hooking them up to where you mount it, that's about the only thing I could think of. I had just noticed it a few days ago and have been too busy to go grab some. Definitely gonna do that though.
 
PSUAGRO.

PSUAGRO.

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Mr. Candiano said:
That's more than enough height. Use different hangers raise heigher. If the the same problem is happening it may be another issue deficiency of some sort. Never had that problem. learning a lot about cxb set ups.
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It's definitely bleaching from a high 660nm ratio.........had the same issues fighting the Osram panel for two rounds, secondary lenses just compound the problem.
 
J Bleezy

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PSUAGRO. said:
It's definitely bleaching from a high 660nm ratio.........had the same issues fighting the Osram panel for two rounds, secondary lenses just compound the problem.
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Do you know at what distance my cobs might start to cause problems? It's 12 cxb3590 3500k cd driven at 1050ma
I don't have the highest of ceilings and didn't think I'd need to keep any LED farrher than a 1000w hps.
Thank you
 
Mr. Candiano

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PSUAGRO. said:
It's definitely bleaching from a high 660nm ratio.........had the same issues fighting the Osram panel for two rounds, secondary lenses just compound the problem.
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I've been looking at the cxb 3590 was wondering with or with lens or refectors.
 
J Bleezy

J Bleezy

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Whichever you prefer, I just used reflectors as I'm not too worried about the cobs getting wet, I don't ever foliar feed or anything. You lose a little light and add a little weight when you use lenses.
 
PSUAGRO.

PSUAGRO.

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J Bleezy said:
Do you know at what distance my cobs might start to cause problems? It's 12 cxb3590 3500k cd driven at 1050ma
I don't have the highest of ceilings and didn't think I'd need to keep any LED farrher than a 1000w hps.
Thank you
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Just read your plants grower, any weird signs on the tops and back it off.......if you run out of height super crop them early in flower....

Mr. Candiano said:
I've been looking at the cxb 3590 was wondering with or with lens or refectors.
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Shallow reflectors for the win in most applications..........
 
littlejacob

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J Bleezy said:
Do you know at what distance my cobs might start to cause problems? It's 12 cxb3590 3500k cd driven at 1050ma
I don't have the highest of ceilings and didn't think I'd need to keep any LED farrher than a 1000w hps.
Thank you
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Bonjour
How close from each other are your cxb?
If you have too many not well enough spaced it is how bleaching happened!
I had plant @ 6/8in under cxb3590 @1400mA...but very well spaced (16in)...next I try 12in spacing!
CU
 
J Bleezy

J Bleezy

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littlejacob said:
Bonjour
How close from each other are your cxb?
If you have too many not well enough spaced it is how bleaching happened!
I had plant @ 6/8in under cxb3590 @1400mA...but very well spaced (16in)...next I try 12in spacing!
CU
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The problems I'm having are under my BML fixture, I haven't used my cobs yet. They are spaced 9" from eachother though.
 
Mr. Candiano

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interested in spacing cxb3590 cobs to be the closest as possible. 5x16' area, if every 12" would be sufficient to maintain a close distance. Inline or staggered layout
 
J Bleezy

J Bleezy

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Depends on how hard you drive the cobs, what size heatsink you get and if you want to go active or passive.
But every 12" should be more than enough space
 
littlejacob

littlejacob

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Bonjour
If you have 1 cob for each ft2 and that you space them from 1foot...you will have 1cob over every ft2 and the best light spread possible...don't think like hps or commercial pannels...first is old and second can't do that because of the size of the fixture!
I use 1 cxb3590 per hs to have the best spread I can get...and I will make an aluminium angle fixture to hold all the hs/cob to avoid buying biggest hs!
I take 1 x 1000x165x35mm (40x6.6x1.4 in) that i cut in 4 part to cover more space...4 bar like this with 4 cxb3590 @1400mA on each!
I don't get why we should put all are individual cob on the same hs in the middle of the gbox????
We have the chance to have many lights...why not spread it evenly...split the gbox by the numbers of cob and put one in the center of each area!?!
It will be much more efficient and effective!
CU
 
Mr. Candiano

Mr. Candiano

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littlejacob said:
Bonjour
If you have 1 cob for each ft2 and that you space them from 1foot...you will have 1cob over every ft2 and the best light spread possible...don't think like hps or commercial pannels...first is old and second can't do that because of the size of the fixture!
I use 1 cxb3590 per hs to have the best spread I can get...and I will make an aluminium angle fixture to hold all the hs/cob to avoid buying biggest hs!
I take 1 x 1000x165x35mm (40x6.6x1.4 in) that i cut in 4 part to cover more space...4 bar like this with 4 cxb3590 @1400mA on each!
I don't get why we should put all are individual cob on the same hs in the middle of the gbox????
We have the chance to have many lights...why not spread it evenly...split the gbox by the numbers of cob and put one in the center of each area!?!
It will be much more efficient and effective!
CU
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Think I'll space cobs every 14" and every 12" on a 4x4' layout. (12) cxb3590 on 3500k @ 1050ma on (2) HLG 240hc.
Questions are: can't I run the same setup on 1400ma?
That would lower efficiency increase intensity correct?
Or a 4x4' layout 3cobs left and right spaced 14" and 4cobs middle spaced 10". This may be better pattern layout since my SCROG area is 5x16'
Your thoughts on pattern and 1400ma to 1050ma. In the past I ran almost 6000 watts in just lightning. I don't mind running a little extra juice of I'm creating a happier light spectrum for the ladies.
 
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