Flowering a month from seeds popped

theflowerman.dc · Nov 15, 2017

hey everyone,

Has any one had experience with a month veg time yeild?

Or 3 -5 week veg yeild??

I am just curious because my seeds popped on the 18th, and they are right at 1 month,

So if someone has harvest with 2 ,3,4, or 5 vegg time please let me know what your yield like on averge.

I plan on fipping them on coming tuesday which marks 4.5 week mark

Thanks

FennarioMike · Nov 16, 2017

I'd wait a while longer. Flowering at 4 weeks from clone is common - but from seed it takes a bit longer for decent yields. Here's what to wait for:

- Alternate branching - In the seedling stage leaves and branches grow in pairs, opposite from each other. This will change to alternating sides of the main stem. This is an indication that it has reached a maturity where it's ready to be flipped. pre-flowers will start to form. If you try to flower a plant in the seedling stage, it will eventually fast forward and flower, but it will take a lot longer and the yields will be much lower.

You really want some well developed branching and bud sites too - before you flip

theflowerman.dc · Nov 16, 2017

FennarioMike said:
I'd wait a while longer. Flowering at 4 weeks from clone is common - but from seed it takes a bit longer for decent yields. Here's what to wait for:

- Alternate branching - In the seedling stage leaves and branches grow in pairs, opposite from each other. This will change to alternating sides of the main stem. This is an indication that it has reached a maturity where it's ready to be flipped. pre-flowers will start to form. If you try to flower a plant in the seedling stage, it will eventually fast forward and flower, but it will take a lot longer and the yields will be much lower.

You really want some well developed branching and bud sites too - before you flip

Yea thats what i heard but the thing is i have to be out of house jan 31st,

And i can dry somewhere else

So i can vegg them for another 7 days which will be roughly 5 weeks from germination.
That leaves me with 65-68 days till the end of jan

FennarioMike · Nov 16, 2017

Well, it's going to probably take better than 2 weeks for them to show flowers at this point in maturity. If it were at alternate branching, it would be less than a week. It can even be longer than 2 weeks until it starts. It's from when these first flowers show that you start counting down the weeks. That gives you about 9 weeks flowering time if you flip today and if they show flowers in 2 weeks. Cutting it close...

If you need to be out by Jan 31st then it is what is - but without developed side branching you'll mostly get one bud at the main cola and some small buds. Your yield will be pretty small. My guess is that you'll get a couple of ounces.

theflowerman.dc · Nov 16, 2017

Wait what!??? So your saying if i put them to flower today, i would have to wait 2 weeks for pre flower and 9 weeks from there?

FennarioMike said:
Well, it's going to probably take better than 2 weeks for them to show flowers at this point in maturity. If it were at alternate branching, it would be less than a week. It can even be longer than 2 weeks until it starts. It's from when these first flowers show that you start counting down the weeks. That gives you about 9 weeks flowering time if you flip today and if they show flowers in 2 weeks. Cutting it close...

If you need to be out by Jan 31st then it is what is - but without developed side branching you'll mostly get one bud at the main cola and some small buds. Your yield will be pretty small. My guess is that you'll get a couple of ounces.

FennarioMike · Nov 16, 2017

theflowerman.dc said:
Wait what!??? So your saying if i put them to flower today, i would have to wait 2 weeks for pre flower and 9 weeks from there?

Yes - I'm saying that after flipping at this early stage, you won't see true flowers for about 2 weeks, maybe more. THEN it's 9 weeks to bud maturity.

If they were clones then you'd see flowers in a week.

too larry · Nov 16, 2017

Most strains reach sexual maturity at 4-6 weeks. {alternating limbs is a sign of sexual maturity} No matter what you do with the light hours, until they reach maturity, they won't flower. That said, I have several outdoors now for a fall/winter grow, and they started to flower at one month. {I had hoped for a couple more weeks of veg} Sexual maturity and length of flowering is very strain dependent.

Kerovan · Nov 16, 2017

I always flip to 12/12 in the 4th-5th week at the latest from seed. Average around 160-180 grams dried and cured per plant.

That being said, your plants look like mine at about 2 weeks, but that could be because you topped yours, I don't top anymore.

theflowerman.dc · Nov 16, 2017

too larry said:
Most strains reach sexual maturity at 4-6 weeks. {alternating limbs is a sign of sexual maturity} No matter what you do with the light hours, until they reach maturity, they won't flower. That said, I have several outdoors now for a fall/winter grow, and they started to flower at one month. {I had hoped for a couple more weeks of veg} Sexual maturity and length of flowering is very strain dependent.

Ohh okay
Lets wait till tuesday and wednesday to see where we are sitting at, they are in their final 5 gallon pots everything is set so lets wait a week to see how they come along

theflowerman.dc · Nov 16, 2017

Kerovan said:
I always flip to 12/12 in the 4th-5th week at the latest from seed. Average around 160-180 grams dried and cured per plant.

That being said, your plants look like mine at about 2 weeks, but that could be because you topped yours, I don't top anymore.

Yes i topped them at 3 node, so most them have 6-8 tops from what i see, i tied down all of them today,

So your telling me you flip your at 5 weekf from the day they popped???
And you pull 5-6 Ounces??

Mine at 4 week from popped date and people are telling me i wont even pull an ounce

theflowerman.dc · Nov 16, 2017

So they are finally in the 5 gallon pots,

And did some light LST and tied them down,

So plan on vegging them till Wednesday

Kerovan · Nov 17, 2017

theflowerman.dc said:
Yes i topped them at 3 node, so most them have 6-8 tops from what i see, i tied down all of them today,

So your telling me you flip your at 5 weekf from the day they popped???
And you pull 5-6 Ounces??

Mine at 4 week from popped date and people are telling me i wont even pull an ounce

Yes indeed. I only grow in the winter. Last years grow I put the seeds in cups to germinate on the 4th of November, they sprouted on the 6th of November. I flipped to 12/12 on December 9. 4 plants gave me 539 grams dried and cured. I take notes of all my grows so I know when, what and how.
Edit: As I said though, I don't top. Topping is going to put you 2-3 weeks behind schedule. When I flip my plants are probably in the neighborhood of 14 inches tall

theflowerman.dc · Nov 17, 2017

Kerovan said:
Yes indeed. I only grow in the winter. Last years grow I put the seeds in cups to germinate on the 4th of November, they sprouted on the 6th of November. I flipped to 12/12 on December 9. 4 plants gave me 539 grams dried and cured. I take notes of all my grows so I know when, what and how.
Edit: As I said though, I don't top. Topping is going to put you 2-3 weeks behind schedule. When I flip my plants are probably in the neighborhood of 14 inches tall

Thats very amazing, what lights do you have? And what nutes did you use,

I wish i knew that, i was told to top and lst,
Isnt topping supposed to increase your yield??

too larry · Nov 17, 2017

theflowerman.dc said:
. . . . . . .I wish i knew that, i was told to top and lst,
Isnt topping supposed to increase your yield??

With a longer veg time it will. With a healthy fast growing outdoor plant you can top every week to ten days. But smaller plants can be stunted a few days by topping.

Lots of indoor guys just lst.

Humanrob · Nov 17, 2017

Kerovan said:
Yes indeed. I only grow in the winter. Last years grow I put the seeds in cups to germinate on the 4th of November, they sprouted on the 6th of November. I flipped to 12/12 on December 9. 4 plants gave me 539 grams dried and cured. I take notes of all my grows so I know when, what and how.
Edit: As I said though, I don't top. Topping is going to put you 2-3 weeks behind schedule. When I flip my plants are probably in the neighborhood of 14 inches tall

What size pots are you using? What strains gave you that kind of harvest?

I am 5 weeks into flower with about 10 plants from seed. I went 4.5 weeks from popping @18/6 and then flipped them to 12/12. Some are in 2 gallon, some in 3 gallon fabric pots (growing in soil). I topped them all once. There are five strains represented. I'd guesstimate I'll get between 1 and 2oz from each plant. How you can get 5-6 oz per plant from seed run flipped as soon as they were mature enough, is something I'd like to see.

I did a 12/12 from seed run with some sativa-doms that needed 9-11 weeks to mature, and I did not top some of them. I also made some mistakes on that run (too much light and too much nutes), but the main colas got so big and dense I got bud rot in a few of them. The only plants that were consistently in good shape were the ones I topped once, so now I always top once. Sometimes we adapt to our own limitations.

Kerovan · Nov 17, 2017

theflowerman.dc said:
Thats very amazing, what lights do you have? And what nutes did you use,

I wish i knew that, i was told to top and lst,
Isnt topping supposed to increase your yield??

Topping doesn't really increase your yield, it just alters it. You get a few more bigger buds, but you get less smaller buds so it all equalizes. But that is only if you veg the topped plants longer. For the same short veg period you get less by topping because you lose a couple a couple of weeks of growth by topping.

I veg them for about 3 weeks under 256W of t8 fluorescent lighting, a mix of 5000k and 6500k, then they go under a 400W metal halide for 1 - 1 1/2 weeks. Then when I flip to 12/12 it's changed to 400W HPS with 2 cheap chinese blurple ufo leds as supplemental lighting since the 400W HPS isn't enough for a 4x4 tent.

Kerovan · Nov 17, 2017

Humanrob said:
What size pots are you using? What strains gave you that kind of harvest?

I am 5 weeks into flower with about 10 plants from seed. I went 4.5 weeks from popping @18/6 and then flipped them to 12/12. Some are in 2 gallon, some in 3 gallon fabric pots (growing in soil). I topped them all once. There are five strains represented. I'd guesstimate I'll get between 1 and 2oz from each plant. How you can get 5-6 oz per plant from seed run flipped as soon as they were mature enough, is something I'd like to see.

I did a 12/12 from seed run with some sativa-doms that needed 9-11 weeks to mature, and I did not top some of them. I also made some mistakes on that run (too much light and too much nutes), but the main colas got so big and dense I got bud rot in a few of them. The only plants that were consistently in good shape were the ones I topped once, so now I always top once. Sometimes we adapt to our own limitations.

I start out in solo cups for the first week or so, then they go to pots that are about 1 1/2 gallon for approximately 2 more weeks, then into the final 5 gallon pots and the roots completely fill up those 5 gallon pots solidly. I use Fox Farms Ocean Forest Soil, I start giving them FF Grow Big, FF Big Bloom, Molasses and Epsom Salt when they about 2 weeks old, I keep that up until about 2 weeks into flower, then I drop the Grow Big and use Tiger Bloom. If I notice a little yellowing I may add some grow big. The strains don't seem to matter a whole lot, but I've never done full blooded sativas. This last grow was Nirvana's Northern Lights. But I've gotten similar yields from Barney's Farm Morning Glory, Nirvana's Aurora Indica, etc. Generally indica dominant strains. I also don't harvest when the breeders say they are done, it generally goes at the very least 2 weeks longer, sometimes more. 8 week strains generally get about 11 weeks, I feed all the way to the end except the last week they just get water since there is plenty of nutrients left in the soil by then. They really put on a lot of weight those last couple of weeks.

theflowerman.dc · Nov 17, 2017

Pictures !? If not your lying hhhhahahahah jkjk

Kerovan said:
I start out in solo cups for the first week or so, then they go to pots that are about 1 1/2 gallon for approximately 2 more weeks, then into the final 5 gallon pots and the roots completely fill up those 5 gallon pots solidly. I use Fox Farms Ocean Forest Soil, I start giving them FF Grow Big, FF Big Bloom, Molasses and Epsom Salt when they about 2 weeks old, I keep that up until about 2 weeks into flower, then I drop the Grow Big and use Tiger Bloom. If I notice a little yellowing I may add some grow big. The strains don't seem to matter a whole lot, but I've never done full blooded sativas. This last grow was Nirvana's Northern Lights. But I've gotten similar yields from Barney's Farm Morning Glory, Nirvana's Aurora Indica, etc. Generally indica dominant strains. I also don't harvest when the breeders say they are done, it generally goes at the very least 2 weeks longer, sometimes more. 8 week strains generally get about 11 weeks, I feed all the way to the end except the last week they just get water since there is plenty of nutrients left in the soil by then. They really put on a lot of weight those last couple of weeks.

theflowerman.dc · Nov 17, 2017

That sounds reasonable in my opinion, i have never heard anyone say 5 oz w 5 week veg,

What week are you on? Could you post some pictures too? Maybe when you were in vegg ready to flip so i can see how big were they, and maybe now? Please

Humanrob said:
What size pots are you using? What strains gave you that kind of harvest?

I am 5 weeks into flower with about 10 plants from seed. I went 4.5 weeks from popping @18/6 and then flipped them to 12/12. Some are in 2 gallon, some in 3 gallon fabric pots (growing in soil). I topped them all once. There are five strains represented. I'd guesstimate I'll get between 1 and 2oz from each plant. How you can get 5-6 oz per plant from seed run flipped as soon as they were mature enough, is something I'd like to see.

I did a 12/12 from seed run with some sativa-doms that needed 9-11 weeks to mature, and I did not top some of them. I also made some mistakes on that run (too much light and too much nutes), but the main colas got so big and dense I got bud rot in a few of them. The only plants that were consistently in good shape were the ones I topped once, so now I always top once. Sometimes we adapt to our own limitations.

Humanrob · Nov 17, 2017

theflowerman.dc said:
That sounds reasonable in my opinion, i have never heard anyone say 5 oz w 5 week veg,

What week are you on? Could you post some pictures too? Maybe when you were in vegg ready to flip so i can see how big were they, and maybe now? Please

The grow I'm referring to starts HERE...
It's nothing to write home about, just another big experiment.

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