first time grow setup questinos, odor concern

Hey everyone, I'm new to this site and am looking to start my first grow room.

So far I have:

1 Bubbleponics
HTGSupply Ultimate 400w HPS & MH Grow Light

Both of which are currently unused because I want to make sure to cover as much as I can before I start

I was thinking about getting the following:

Grow Tent - Size XL 77 x 77 x 77
Another bubbleponics
A 2' 6 tube HO T5 from HTG (for veg)
GrowBright 4" Inline Fan & Carbon Filter Combo
And a Garden of Ease from HTG - a DWC hydro for mom

This is going to be in a small room in my garage. It's about a 9x9 room I think and unventilated and not air conditioned.

My plan is to divide the tent and have veggie on one side for mom and cloning/growing and flowering on the other.

Now I'm a little confused on what to do for ventilation/temp and odor control.
If I put a hole in the wall I think I can connect the grow room with the main house, then use the inline fan/carbon filter to suck the air thru the grow tent and push it out into the garage. Where I would need to put the hole is a high traffic area (guest bathroom, probably more used than my room. So I want to make sure, even though I would be sucking air from the bathroom, would an odor creep in. Also is the 4" combo enough to filter out all the smell and provide enough movement to keep that 400w cool?

Odor is very important because I live next door to some fuzz.

Also, if I divide the tent in two using some black and white poly, how can i get air to flow thru both sides without letting light thru? if i have intake on veggie side and fan+filter to pull the air out of the tent.

Does anyone see a problem or have a suggestion for this setup? I do not have the tools to do building, so I'm trying to be money conscience with as little "complicated" DIY as possible.

Looking forward to getting this mofo up and running and posting results

you would want the 6in fan/filter combo, much greater cfm's and i love it myself, since we cant see where you want to put holes, you would want your filter to go like this filter-->fan-->outside via hole in wall.....as for fresh air ventilation i like those 6inch duct fans for $25 sucking out hot air and another for blowing in fresh air, when i first started i made the mistake of thinking i would only need one hole my space has 4 holes for various intake outake and clean scrubbed air, what i would highly recomend to knock out 2 biurds with one stone is get an air cooled hood, you hook up a 6inch duct fan to that poof your heat issue is no more, or you can stream line it, set up your carbon filter-connect450 cfm fan- duct that to the air cooled 400w and right out the hole...just try to not make many bends in the ducting so you can have a better air flow...with that fan on that lamp the room will always be in the 70's

Okay, so to make sure I understand.. you recommend one fan to push air into the room and then the other to filter and push out?

If you had two holes, one for fresh air and one where you want the filtered air to go, wouldn't the pressure drop created from the air being pushed out suck air in at the fresh air hole w/o a second fan? Where can i get one of these fans for $25?

Also, is electricity going to be a problem with all of this? there is one outlet in the room. i have no experience with wiring and i don't want to set my house on fire.

thanks for the help

Hire a qualified electrician to bring extra lines into the area in which you plan to grow. A dedicated line would be best. The electrician will know what to do. Tell him you're building a computer room if he asks. This is not the place to skimp on costs.

You'll want some fresh air coming into the tent, so you can use an in-line fan for that.

You want a ventilated hood for your light. Leave one vent open so that air from the tent is sucked through that one. The other vent is connected to dryer hose, then to a Hurricane or FanTech fan. The other end of the Hurricane/FanTech fan is connected to more dryer hose that is directed out the top of the tent. From there, the dryer hose is connected to your carbon filter. Be sure to get a large enough filter ... fuzz next door. You might want to connect up another filter and fan and just keep it running outside of the tent. You can mount that one right to the wall or a 2x4 if your garage isn't drywalled. With fuzz next door, it's better to play is safe. Some strains smell so bad, that without carbon filters, during the flowering cycle, you'll be able to smell the out into the street.

So, when you're through, you'll have fresh air being blown into your tent. The air circulates, then is sucked across the light for cooling and exhausted out of the tent and through the filter. See? 'Tis simple.

Vi

thanks, great advise. all sounds pretty expensive though.

i'll call an electrician. if i put a C.A.P. OZN-Jr Ozone Generator in the room (not in tent) hopefully that would take care of any ambient smell?

then to make sure i understand the ventillation, starting in the room the tent will be in:

an inline fan pushing air into tent from room-> a hurricane/fantech (do you have a link?) at the other end of the tent by the light sucking air out of the tent -> carbon filter connected with dryer hose -> dryer hose out of the tent to the attic or garage

HTG says that ozone generator is for up to 1000sqft, since that much larger than the room, can there be a danger to my plants or myself? i've read it can be helpful or dangerous, people with experience?

Thanks again

I've used Ono gels and also have used Ozone generators. In fact, I have an ozone generator that will take care of 3000 square feet. The thing drives you out of the house if you leave it on for any length of time. Nothing works as well as carbon filters. Not only that, but the ozone has a very distinct smell of it's own ... and the fuzz knows that smell.

If you install a carbon filter that filters the air being blown from out of the tent, and another one inside the garage, (which is over-kill in my opinion) to filter any residual stinky air, you should be fine.

Honestly, I grew a strain once (El Peru) that was so stinky, I could smell it as I was walking up my driveway. That's when I decided right then and there to install a carbon filter. One carbon filter took care of the smell so well that I couldn't detect any odor even while standing right next to the grow cabinet.

Yes, you have the installation down right. But ... go with carbon filters and forget the rest.

Here's a link to the FanTech site: http://www.fantech.net/fg.htm All you need is the small one with the 4" opening. With that, you'll be using the 4" flange on your light hood, a carbon filter with a 4" flange and 4" dryer hose.

As a side note ... I've even built a separate cabinet for drying after harvest. It consists of a cabinet that has multiple layers of netting that I hung from the top of the cabinet to place the harvested bud on, a FanTech fan mounted inside, with 4" dryer hose leading out the top of the cabinet and that connects to a carbon filter that just sits on top of the cabinet. I have a small desk fan laying on it's side, facing up, so it gently blows up through the layers of netting as an aid in drying the bud.

As stinky as drying bud is ... you can't smell anything coming out of the cabinet even though the cabinet isn't air tight.

Vi

Okay cool. So instead of an ozone generator just another 4" inline fan/filter combo and let it just sit in the room circulating the air in there? i may start with just the one filter going into the attic, and if i notice something i'll set another up.

so from everything i've read, with this setup i would expect a harvest every 1.5-2 mo at about an half oz - oz a plant?

BudsInLungs said:

Okay cool. So instead of an ozone generator just another 4" inline fan/filter combo and let it just sit in the room circulating the air in there? i may start with just the one filter going into the attic, and if i notice something i'll set another up.

so from everything i've read, with this setup i would expect a harvest every 1.5-2 mo at about an half oz - oz a plant?

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In order to get a harvest every 1.5 - 2 months, you'll need fast flowering strains like Cindy-99 or possibly Grape Fruit crosses and two more small cabinets. One cabinet for cloning and one cabinet for vegging. Move the vegged plants over to the flowering room every 60 days after each harvest. Or, you can do a perpetual harvest ... have say ten plants in your flowering room, five that are 30 days into flowering and five that are ready for harvest. As you harvest the five mature plants, move the 30 day plants over to make room for newly vegged plants. Every 30 days, harvest the older plants and move five more new plants into the cabinet.

And yes, a half oz (and more) off of each plant is doable ... depending upon the strain, your head room and light used.

The ultimate goal to shoot for in an indoor grow is one gram of product for each watt of light. Seems impossible, but there are those who consistently get these results. I never have, but like I said ... its a goal. The best I usually do is 8 to 10 ounces of quality, dried and cured bud off of six plants. But my head room is only about 3.5 feet. I use a 600 HPS all the way through flowering. Oh, and unlike many others, I never count the little popcorn buds or my shake in the final results. I use that stuff for baked goods and hash making.

Vi

man that sounds awesome.

Can i not keep the clones (from cuttlings to 1-1.5' plants) and mother in the same room, on the half that gets the veg lighting, like 20/4?

otherwise that's my plan

BudsInLungs said:

man that sounds awesome.

Can i not keep the clones (from cuttlings to 1-1.5' plants) and mother in the same room, on the half that gets the veg lighting, like 20/4?

otherwise that's my plan

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sorry to quote myself here, but is it not advised to keep the clones, mother, and growing (not flowering) plants in the same room with the same lighting?