chuck estevez
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the problem with ANY type of growing is over doing things, if people just kept it simple, they would find a lot less problems
First time DWC
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WeedFreak78
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Amen to that!
brokebudz3
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@WeedFreak78 I've had a great time with hydro. Good luck and enjoy!
brokebudz3
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Hey Errrrybody. Just wanted to give a little progress check. Since Posting this i've only changed two things my res. temps are now kept between 60-65 give or take some hours… and stopped using SugaDaddy In my nute schedule (starting to question this) . My roots are doing great. However i've encountered one problem and Idk what may be causing it help?? Pictures below
churchhaze
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I've been doing DWC for over 10 years and not once have i monitored or controlled temperature, nor have I ever purposefully introduced bennies to the totes.
I haven't had one single case of root rot, ever, unless the plant is already dead. People think that root rot kills plants, but it's really plant death that causes root rot.
I already know I'm going to get hell for this, but what can I say? I'm too stubborn to start monitoring temperature.
DWC noobs usually get a ton of things wrong. They insist on getting a urea based fertilizer instead of one based on calcium nitrate, they tend to underfeed babies and overfeed adults, then end up with terrible looking plants with rotting roots, and they blame the problem on the root rot, but it's my experience that roots rot because they're already dead.
Strong healthy roots are resistant to slime and don't need "friends".
I haven't had one single case of root rot, ever, unless the plant is already dead. People think that root rot kills plants, but it's really plant death that causes root rot.
I already know I'm going to get hell for this, but what can I say? I'm too stubborn to start monitoring temperature.
DWC noobs usually get a ton of things wrong. They insist on getting a urea based fertilizer instead of one based on calcium nitrate, they tend to underfeed babies and overfeed adults, then end up with terrible looking plants with rotting roots, and they blame the problem on the root rot, but it's my experience that roots rot because they're already dead.
Strong healthy roots are resistant to slime and don't need "friends".
Terry385
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Avoid anything "organic" in the nutrient water, that means extracts, vitamins, acids, and definitely no Carbohydrates (sugar). Organics feed brown slime algae as well as pythium "root rot". A simple pure synthetic (chemical) nutrient formula with this tea will be all the plants need for optimum health and growth. We do however recommend using Silica in small amounts. http://www.skunklabshc.com/microbe-tea-info.html
i just order i got the same problem using hydroguard now to see if clears up
i just order i got the same problem using hydroguard now to see if clears up
humboldt bear
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the water is organic so guess you take that out,to each his own but,to say avoid anything organic .is vauge.like water,air,?no dis respect i grow in dirt.seems to me root rot is usually from not enough oxygen ,of fusariam virus.
jijiandfarmgang
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WeedFreak78
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Interesting..had to google it..you would just kinda assume. Now i know, and knowing is half the battle G.I.JOE!
chuck estevez
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you had to google h20? water is a chemical compound, it's in it's name. 3rd grade science class.
WeedFreak78
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I know water is the chemical compound H2O, I was unaware, more likely forgot, that the definition for an organic compound was that it had to contain carbon, I'd be willing to bet the majority of people would assume water was organic. I've been out of school for over 15yrs now, there's lot of stuff I've forgotten, or just didn't pay attention to back then. I excelled in algebra and calculus back then, now i have to write out long division sometimes....when you don't use the knowledge all the time it fades away. 3rd grade science has been loooooong gone...but thanks for being so righteous..
chuck estevez
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this is even better for those "organic" people, plants need inorganic nutrients too.I know water is the chemical compound H2O, I was unaware, more likely forgot, that the definition for an organic compound was that it had to contain carbon, I'd be willing to bet the majority of people would assume water was organic. I've been out of school for over 15yrs now, there's lot of stuff I've forgotten, or just didn't pay attention to back then. I excelled in algebra and calculus back then, now i have to write out long division sometimes....when you don't use the knowledge all the time it fades away. 3rd grade science has been loooooong gone...but thanks for being so righteous..
ttystikk
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This is actually the reason I enjoy my style of growing the most; I actually used my science and engineering background to develop it and I use my math and chemistry chops with every nute change.I know water is the chemical compound H2O, I was unaware, more likely forgot, that the definition for an organic compound was that it had to contain carbon, I'd be willing to bet the majority of people would assume water was organic. I've been out of school for over 15yrs now, there's lot of stuff I've forgotten, or just didn't pay attention to back then. I excelled in algebra and calculus back then, now i have to write out long division sometimes....when you don't use the knowledge all the time it fades away. 3rd grade science has been loooooong gone...but thanks for being so righteous..
Then there's the obvious biology, physics, law- and don't forget psychology of customers!
I have learned more growing weed than I did in college- and the knowledge gained has been a damned sight more useful, too.
Yes, that IS an indictment of our current educational system. Before wasting money on a college degree you're 'expected' to go for, assess what it is you really want to do with your life- and then, go do it! Any necessity for higher education will make itself known among the way, and will therefore be a much stronger argument for college than 'you're just supposed to'.
Jimdamick
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I have tried them all soil/dwc/aero/dtw/rdwc. I started in soil, and it can be easier, but soils, or what nutes do to it, can be a problem (like growing in general). Organic gardening does make it easier as far as PH, and zero salt buildup). I would recommend soil for a nubie, until the process of understanding just general growth patterns of a pot plant is accomplished. I now use a recirculated drip system using a chiller (cost me $200), and what I learned from soil definitely helped me in understanding the importance of PH problems and nute and salts build up in the medium that is used. I find it easier to do hydro, as long as you have a res system, as you can do all your modification in the tank. Plants seem to love a good drip, it is easy to modify what your plants are getting, just do a res change and start over. The plants react fast, which is really good for a 8-10 week grow, as soil definitely takes longer to react to a problem. For example, if soil is N depleted, or anything else. it will take a week of adjustment to bring it back to where you want it in soil. Hydro, you will see a reaction in a few day's. As they say, to each there own, but my way is the best (lol)you made your mistakes in soil and learned some stuff,so when you went to DWC you had better success. I can see that. But in reality, soil is about as easy as it gets, if people didn't try and complicate it and kept it simple. they would see that. But there is nothing wrong with hydro either and it will teach you a lot, as I said before.
Jimdamick
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Exactly!
That is why I am going back to college at the ripe old age of 56. I am going to go to UCONN, to study Horticulture and get my game on. Pot became legal this year in CT, medical for now, but there are like 4 farms now in the state licensed. I actually could get a real job growing pot legally ( There is a God). Education is the way to go in the 21st century. Go learn LEGALLY how to grow some serious Ganja, and move to one of those enlightened states(more to come) and do what you love. GROWING HERB!!!!.
chuck estevez
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this is kind of my point. A newbie starts in hydro with no basics of a soil grow. when he makes a mistake, it's instant and can cause death more time then not because newb doesn't know what caused or how to fix problem. soil gives you that buffer to make some mistakes. then you can go on to hydro after, as you said, you understand the importance of ph and ppm,environment and so on.
Jimdamick
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Your a smart man, and I hope more innocents listen to you
brokebudz3
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It's about how well a person educates themselves in general. Anyone can grow in soil or in hydro if you read grow journals, post on forums and can afford the overhead of an initial set up. My first grow was soil.. and I knew about pH, PPM, temps, humidity etc. but I couldn't afford optimal equipment to properly measure or maintain these specifics. Which lead to deficencies and problems. Then again you don't know anything exactly till you do it yourself so you're always going to come across something you want to question. Like the old people say if you don't know ask questions. DWC FTW
WeedFreak78
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I love growing in soil, but until I can find a soil available locally that can guarantee it is pathogen free, or have the area to properly sterilize, then recolonize soil, myself, I will never bring so much as a cup of earth into my house....so I'm going hydro. I had to do a extinction level event once because a bag of soil from a well known company infected my whole house with gnats. After battling the little bastards for a month, everything was tore down, thrown out/burned, sterilized and restarted..took me 6+ months just to recover, I lost all my fresh herbs, a couple african violets, a vine off some sort i had nursed back to health and was overtaking my porch, a small avacado tree, and a couple spider plants that went through at least 3 generations of my family, not to mention a half dozen babys i was getting ready to put out for the summer.