First licences producers

redi jedi

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I have joined these boards as part of my attempt to help a family member who is looking to get their MMAR or MMPR ticket. I do bring a lot of experience in legal pharmaceutical production under GMPs: the regulations that ensure safe product for human use. I have experience making injectable products for clinical trials - safely. Yes, that likely sets me apart from this community. Irradiation is likely being done for the same reason Bedrocan and parts of the food industry do it; less risk to the patient which turns into less risk for the company. Another possibility is that Health Canada made them do it and now they would rather stick with it rather than risk switching away from a validated procedure. I can't find any credible published data that shows irradiation has any negative impact on the efficacy of their product or Bedrocan's. As to the milling, I see that being interpreted here as powdering with no evidence that is actually the case. Ditto the charge of adding in plant parts other than the flowering tops.
Its awfully suspicious as all your posts are in defense of PPS....
 

Magenta Thumb

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Anyone pro-GMP is likely to sound pro-PPS; there is currently no alternative.

As to GardenOrganics wish "to know what pesticide they use", that can be seen here, http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/marihuana/about-apropos/dried-information-sechee-eng.php or by pdf file here, http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/alt_formats/pdf/marihuana/about-apropos/dried-information-sechee-eng.pdf for the MMAR material.

For the MMPR material, the regs start covering this in Section 54, .http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/marihuana/info/techni-eng.php. The catch is that, AFAIK, there are no pest control products that have been registered under the Pest Control Products Act for use on MM. So, unless a company is willing to go through the registration process, no one producing MMPR material is allowed to use pesticides.
 

Magenta Thumb

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Irradiation is not mandated by HC - and if you grow a sanitized product you should not need to Irradiate
I concur. It is not mandated by HC. All they seem to require the LP to do is use an established microbial testing method and acceptance criteria based on a pharmacopeia they are comfy with. All you need to do is meet that specification. The advantage of irradiation is that it pretty much guarantees you will meet that specification, regardless of which pharmacopeia is chosen. Also, given that they have been doing it for the MMAR material, there might be institutional momentum, especially if they have stability data dependent on the irradiation. It might well be figurative and literal overkill, but it is the cautious approach generally chosen by GMP operations.
 

Kootenaygirl

Active Member
My understanding is that they cannot control their mould, so they irradiate, and they want a consistent product so they mill. Their way of thinking was tainted by the obstructionist we know of called Health Canada. We also heard they were lowering the THC and CBD percentages by grinding in stem and leaf under orders from HC. Who knows? You would think that they would change their ways if they did not believe in what they did. Seems like taking the flavour, taste, otherwise known as the joy out of it makes for better medicine, not! Time will tell, I know no one who uses brown marihuana. Have you seen it?
 

leaffan

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I appreciate your reply.
"you would think that they would change their ways...", exactly, but they haven't....why?
I've read many posts regarding their product, but have never seen it.
I am very curious about something. Has anyone tried stuffing an oz of bud into a pill bottle?
How much flavour, taste is lost when you mill and store? I can imagine there is a considerable loss in smell.
 
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