First grow!!! HELP!!

Sirsmokealot91

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Are u waiting till the pot feels light??? Also it is best to water from the bottom up like fill tub with water 2-3 inches deep than sit them in it to keep a nat problem from forming
I'm not moving my plants lol. They are in an unused bathroom walk in shower. The drain is right in the shower floor. I have them just sitting on the floor. All run off and mess runs down the drain. No cleaning up needed for my op . All I do is water and move them around
 

Sirsmokealot91

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4 days after being topped. Plants are exploding with growth. Think I HAVE to do some lst to get some light to more of the plants insides. Plan on switching to flower when they are 3 ft tall so final height will be around 6ft so from the looks of it I'm going to be vegging for atleast another month. I not only want them tall but bush as HELL as well . They are only about a month old from seed and I already notice odor. Carbon filter install in another week or so. I know the phresh filters are highly recommended but I was thinking of buying an empty filter for $20-30 and just filling it with my own activated carbon like they sell by the pet aisle in Wally World
 

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Tx-Peanutt

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4 days after being topped. Plants are exploding with growth. Think I HAVE to do some lst to get some light to more of the plants insides. Plan on switching to flower when they are 3 ft tall so final height will be around 6ft so from the looks of it I'm going to be vegging for atleast another month. I not only want them tall but bush as HELL as well . They are only about a month old from seed and I already notice odor. Carbon filter install in another week or so. I know the phresh filters are highly recommended but I was thinking of buying an empty filter for $20-30 and just filling it with my own activated carbon like they sell by the pet aisle in Wally World
Looking good bud keep up the good work.... The watering idea is just my personal experience ... So u can do it the way u want ... I'll be watching your grow happy growing
 

Sirsmokealot91

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30 days from seed. 8 days since being topped. Have been "trying" to lst lol to try and get more light into the plants' "guts". When the branches get long enough to "shade out" the lower ones I tie it down
 

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Tx-Peanutt

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30 days from seed. 8 days since being topped. Have been "trying" to lst lol to try and get more light into the plants' "guts". When the branches get long enough to "shade out" the lower ones I tie it down
They don't look bad how far are u keeping the lights???? And what is watering schedule looking like??? Are u waiting till it feels light (the pot)???If the stems are still flimsy enough u can pull them down a little more to make them a little more even...Also a 600 watt hps/Mh bulb penetrates 36" if I'm not mistaken, u might wanna check that on google to be sure..As for the carbon filter I bought a Vivosun 6" x18" 10or8" it reduces to the 6" for easy hook up to ducting...
 

Sirsmokealot91

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They don't look bad how far are u keeping the lights???? And what is watering schedule looking like??? Are u waiting till it feels light (the pot)???If the stems are still flimsy enough u can pull them down a little more to make them a little more even...Also a 600 watt hps/Mh bulb penetrates 36" if I'm not mistaken, u might wanna check that on google to be sure..As for the carbon filter I bought a Vivosun 6" x18" 10or8" it reduces to the 6" for easy hook up to ducting...
My lights are about 1 ft away from my tops. I know ppl say keep them farther away and all but I don't see a problem. No signs of heat/light stress. I water every other day. Yes I guess I wait until the pot is light to water lol. I can tell the difference of the weight before and after watering. Yea the stems are still flimsy. I haven't tied them down all the way because I not only want my plants to somewhat widen out but I also want it to be a nice height. I just want to move enough leaves/stems to the point that my insides blossom up as well. And they are doing their thing. The insides are also bulking up. Good tip on the carbon filter. Do you have any feedback as far as making your own filter? Not a cheap diy one. But buy a decent filter for like $30 then buy and add my own carbon. Or should I just stick with the pros
 

Tx-Peanutt

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My lights are about 1 ft away from my tops. I know ppl say keep them farther away and all but I don't see a problem. No signs of heat/light stress. I water every other day. Yes I guess I wait until the pot is light to water lol. I can tell the difference of the weight before and after watering. Yea the stems are still flimsy. I haven't tied them down all the way because I not only want my plants to somewhat widen out but I also want it to be a nice height. I just want to move enough leaves/stems to the point that my insides blossom up as well. And they are doing their thing. The insides are also bulking up. Good tip on the carbon filter. Do you have any feedback as far as making your own filter? Not a cheap diy one. But buy a decent filter for like $30 then buy and add my own carbon. Or should I just stick with the pros
I would go with Vivosun they last for 5-6 grows I keep mine in all the time and run it with my my lights my setup ain't perfect but it does the job ...LolIMG_0917.JPG
 

Gumdrawp

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I would go with Vivosun they last for 5-6 grows I keep mine in all the time and run it with my my lights my setup ain't perfect but it does the job ...LolView attachment 4009811
Should try to minimize those turns in the line. I forget what the rule of thumb is but like every 90 degrees you lose something like 10% of your cfm. The guy that told me this isn't exactly an hvac professional but the physics make sense and it seems to make a difference for me.
 

Sirsmokealot91

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Should try to minimize those turns in the line. I forget what the rule of thumb is but like every 90 degrees you lose something like 10% of your cfm. The guy that told me this isn't exactly an hvac professional but the physics make sense and it seems to make a difference for me.
Unless he has a fan with plenty of cfm
 

Tx-Peanutt

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Should try to minimize those turns in the line. I forget what the rule of thumb is but like every 90 degrees you lose something like 10% of your cfm. The guy that told me this isn't exactly an hvac professional but the physics make sense and it seems to make a difference for me.
It's like 1,250 rpm but have u ever grown in a 3x3x72 tent it's kinda hard to put lights fans and ducting in there and not make any turns...
 

Gumdrawp

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It's like 1,250 rpm but have u ever grown in a 3x3x72 tent it's kinda hard to put lights fans and ducting in there and not make any turns...
Ah yeah, the smallest I've ever done with a hood and filter was 4x4 and it was pretty cramped. I've also always ran separate fans for my carbon filter and my hoods so I'm sure that helped more that I thought too.
 

Tx-Peanutt

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Ah yeah, the smallest I've ever done with a hood and filter was 4x4 and it was pretty cramped. I've also always ran separate fans for my carbon filter and my hoods so I'm sure that helped more that I thought too.
So did you have two in-line fans one for the lights and one for fresh air??? I'm always up for new and better ideas how did you have your setup
 

Gumdrawp

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So did you have two in-line fans one for the lights and one for fresh air??? I'm always up for new and better ideas how did you have your setup
At the time I had 2 tents in a room 1 intake for the lights from the main house and exhausted that back out of the room, then I just controlled the rooms temp/rh and pulled through the filter and exhausted that out of my old chimney stack. To account for the negative pressure I used the closet as a buffer room. I ran some ducting to my ac vent and put a filtered intake at the top of the door as a return basically. I also ran a 10k btu ac/dehumidifier combo in the room, intake also running in through the closet door and the exhaust out into the same line as the lights. I've since moved and don't set up the same but it worked quite well. Because of the space I was in at the time co2 wasn't a great option, if I could have used it i would have set up a little differently. Mostly I would have eliminated the closet vent at the top and just left the carbon filter cleaning the air in the room and using the exhaust to create airflow. Which should have eliminated the most of the negative pressure and let me seal the room well enough to run co2.
 

Tx-Peanutt

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At the time I had 2 tents in a room 1 intake for the lights from the main house and exhausted that back out of the room, then I just controlled the rooms temp/rh and pulled through the filter and exhausted that out of my old chimney stack. To account for the negative pressure I used the closet as a buffer room. I ran some ducting to my ac vent and put a filtered intake at the top of the door as a return basically. I also ran a 10k btu ac/dehumidifier combo in the room, intake also running in through the closet door and the exhaust out into the same line as the lights. I've since moved and don't set up the same but it worked quite well. Because of the space I was in at the time co2 wasn't a great option, if I could have used it i would have set up a little differently. Mostly I would have eliminated the closet vent at the top and just left the carbon filter cleaning the air in the room and using the exhaust to create airflow. Which should have eliminated the most of the negative pressure and let me seal the room well enough to run co2.
Wow that is well thought out.. mine is basic...Lol I've never really gave them much thought other than pulling air instead of pushing air
 

Gumdrawp

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Wow that is well thought out.. mine is basic...Lol I've never really gave them much thought other than pulling air instead of pushing air
I used to have too much time on my hands I probably redid that room at least once every other month for like a year until I was happy. There's always a way to make something better if you look hard enough lol.
 

Sirsmokealot91

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They are really bushing out. It's amazing watching lst work it's magic day by day. Plan on letting them veg another week or two at the rate they're going. My goal is atleast 4 o's a plant lol. Haven't given any nutes yet. They look good so far from the ffof. But will be looking to add some soon
 

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