First ever wardrobe grow.

I suspect that as well, it could also depend on the type of strain.

Anyways, a little update. Things are going really good thanks to those two PC fans (who would of thought?) with temps staying in the 24-27 range AND saving me a fuck ton of space to put the Scrog net and other things SO I COULDN'T ASK FOR MORE! The humidity is in the 34-38 range, although rarely does it venture higher than 38 (maybe at the start of the light period)... except when I watered my plant with some Bio- Grow yesterday (yummy), the moisture from the soil kicked up the RH to about 56%!! DAMN (in the middle of the light period), I could have that number all the time and I'd be the happiest man alive. So I thought to myself, why not put in another pot of wet soil inside (keeping it moist) and see what happens... well I did that today, and the humidity is already at about 42% and hopefully is climing, so I'm really glad.

When it comes to my Goddess Kali I'm seeing some nice growth, not as fast as I would like, but then again it's not DWC and it's not basil. The leaves are getting bigger and the shoots are shooting up and out. The FIM looks like it's recovering, but I probably messed it up so I hope the consequences won't be too severe. I don't really know what to expect from the FIM now.

The yellow/whitish spots are from a few days ago, before I got pissed and installed the PC fans to the bulb. The humidifier ran out of water BEFORE the lights came on and that made the temps go up to 38 C for I don't know how long, but all is well again.

Here are a few pictures, I also might be getting some Northern lights to test the yield after I flip to 12/12 after a short period of veg.

EDIT: the last picture shows the fan connected straight to the exhaust hole. I ditched the ducting, because I wanted the airflow to be restricted as less as possible.

Also sorry for that sideways pictures, but that's for your necks so you can stretch them hehe.

EDIT 2: I flipped the shelf the proper way around so that the mylar is back in buisness, cleaning it of course so it's nice and shiny. I vacuumed the whole cupboard (and room) and did a few aesthetically pleasing things. I'll have to get the those PC fan wires one day and somehow sellotape them together and attach the wires to the walls. I don't want anything hanging in there except for the light.

All righty so today something unexpected happened, because I got three brand new Northern Light seeds, and this is the strain I have always wanted to grow due to its reputation.

Unexpected, because it wasn't in my plans to grow more, but what the hell. What I'm going to do is start all the three seeds in some kind of humidity dome aka fish tank to keep the moisture up (I would like to conduct more "experiments with the RH levels). After a week or maybe two of growth, I'll then "weed out" the worst genetics (slowest growing plants) and that will hopefully bring me down to one or two new plants MAX.

We'll se how it goes.

In other news, the fimming has been corrected and four new shoots are growing. So it looks like she is recvering and going back to normal. The Scrog net is in the process of being built and it should hopefully be ready by tuesday.

Gregor Eisenhorn said:

After a week or maybe two of growth, I'll then "weed out" the worst genetics (slowest growing plants) and that will hopefully bring me down to one or two new plants MAX..

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I could be wrong but, from my experience and understanding, female seedlings tend to be shorter than male seedlings. Thinning out seedlings that are shorter might just leave you with some healthy males. Then again, you might be using feminized seeds. If that's the case, you can disregard this comment.

Hehe there will be no disregarding any comments here. But yes, I'm using feminized seeds, all three of them are so I need not worry. It's just an experiment of sorts, I've always wanted to grow a few plants and then hand pick which ones live and which ones to take out.

your doing great my friend, rock n roll

Thank you very much Tim. it's on now.

Well I never... Over the past few days I have been thinking about whether or not I should transplant to the final 4gal pot but kept dismissing the idea, because "the roots surely haven't grown a lot"... well today I had a bit of time to myself and did some research on proper anti-shocking transplanting methods. Once I got to work and flipped the whole plant upside down (I was surprised as to the smoothness of the process, never happened so elegantly before, most of the time earth would just crumble and fall off) I was shocked to see that the the roots did in fact take the shape of the container... there was more white roots than there was soil. Bloody hell, on my next run I will have everything so well organized, this grow surely is a test run full of muck ups.

So after I came over the awe of my stupidity, I popped the whole plant into a new 15l/4gal container and then watered with half strength nutrients. If all went well, she shouldn't feel any type of shock, here's to hoping.

And I swear if this doesn't rejuvenate my girl and help her catch up then I will be out of words. Poor thing really was root bound.

The next run will probably be the best ever since I have made so many mistakes on this one that I will definitely take care of next time.

Oh and the Northern Lights after three days germinated, as always courtesy of my favourite paper towel method. My friend kept them in poor conditions, so I was wondering if the seeds were still "alive". They'll probably emerge tomorrow morning.

EDIT: a sight similar to the one on the picture.

Should I tie down the plant to one side to expose more shoots to light and then place the screen, or should I just leave it as it is and place the screen on top of it?

Gregor Eisenhorn said:

Well I never... Over the past few days I have been thinking about whether or not I should transplant to the final 4gal pot but kept dismissing the idea, because "the roots surely haven't grown a lot"... well today I had a bit of time to myself and did some research on proper anti-shocking transplanting methods. Once I got to work and flipped the whole plant upside down (I was surprised as to the smoothness of the process, never happened so elegantly before, most of the time earth would just crumble and fall off) I was shocked to see that the the roots did in fact take the shape of the container... there was more white roots than there was soil. Bloody hell, on my next run I will have everything so well organized, this grow surely is a test run full of muck ups.

So after I came over the awe of my stupidity, I popped the whole plant into a new 15l/4gal container and then watered with half strength nutrients. If all went well, she shouldn't feel any type of shock, here's to hoping.

And I swear if this doesn't rejuvenate my girl and help her catch up then I will be out of words. Poor thing really was root bound.

The next run will probably be the best ever since I have made so many mistakes on this one that I will definitely take care of next time.

Oh and the Northern Lights after three days germinated, as always courtesy of my favourite paper towel method. My friend kept them in poor conditions, so I was wondering if the seeds were still "alive". They'll probably emerge tomorrow morning.

EDIT: a sight similar to the one on the picture.

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wow, when I transplanted my plants the other day I had roots bound up just like yours were,, and when they were root bound all kinda of problems were popping up,, and then the problems went away after transplanting,
I would do some LST ing befor the scrog, start getting it into the shape you want

Phew, that's a relief then. I hope she'll recover soon.

Ok thanks Tim, I'll start to tie her down tomorrow. The scrog net is all set up, I'll send pictures soon.

Lot of changes today. Yesterday the first seedling pushed itself out into the light and today a second one is following. The third seems to be still fighting in that soil, but it's an amazing experience to see that they handle themselves differently. I put them in my DIY "humidity dome" just for the sake of it and I'll take it down once they grow their first pair of true leaves.

And I finally merged in my DIY scrog net. Lol, it's a bit wonky is some areas and the fit was nearly perfect, looks like it's going to do its job! Time to start filling out that screen, now comes in handy the experience I had with my PC scrog.

In two weeks a lot has happened (by this grows standards of course). She's getting REALLY bushy, I'm having a hard time rummaging through the lower foliage. I do believe that she is recovering thanks to that long needed transplant but I'll have to compare in a few days to see by how much.

I did a bit of pruning here and there, expecially on the lower levels. I cut away all those older leaves at the bottom that were being shaded by the larger leaves and the shoots.

It's starting to look like a proper grow OP haha, should be all right from here on now. The humidity is really killing me (below 25%), I'm trying to position the PC fans somehow to get the flow of humidity all around the plant, trail and error all the way.

Anyway, I've been doing a bit of weaving here and there, trying to get as much light down to the lower levels without cutting away those huge fan leaves.

Time to take off.

EDIT: I can now start to plan when I should induce flowering. Now of course would be such a waste of time and space, maybe when I fill about half of the net? Something like that. Well I'll definitely wait about a week and a half MINIMUM, because of the transplant I just did not long ago.

I'm also wondering when do you guys defoliate all the leaves/stalks from below the net level? Should that be done now, or maybe should I wait until I switch to flowering to get a good idea of what might and what might not reach the screen? I understand that the concept behind this is to prevent the plant from wasting it's products of photosynthesis on producing stems/leaves etc. that won't really reach the top level were most of the light is, thus allowing the materials to be relocated tp the bigger stems/buds.

This is a great pic borrowed from Nugbuckets Mainlining tutorial.

The idea behind scrogging is to get that plant bent over at the top to let light get to the growth tips (budsites) on ALL the nodes of the plant,
As things get bushier I usually remove lower, older fan leaves that are just sitting in the shade.
As the top pops back up through a few inches, pull it back down under and move it farther away from the center.
When you run out of space, turn it towards the next corner and cause it to grow laterally under the screen, in a big spiral if necessary, keeping all the growth tips seeing the light.
Later you can cull out a few of those that are wimpy and lagging behind most, but for now, just remove old fans in the shade, I figure they are using more energy than they are producing.
Once the growth tips are grown out and bushy enough to supply their own energy, you can remove the fan leaves right under them.

Now a good growing plant will fill up that screen quick like that, so imagine my nightmare when on my first ever grow, which I decided on scrog, was trying to accomplish the same thing with 4 plants.
I was a very busy gardener for a few weeks.
NEVER should have done 4 plants.

you ever thought about using a portable humidifier? this one looks really neat.. USB lower power and portable. I would get one, but my humidity hardly drops below 40%.

http://www.amazon.com/Cool-Mist-Humidifier-Stick-Deneve®/dp/B00TD17MB2/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1448428413&sr=8-3&keywords=portable+humidifier

Damn, thanks fish for clearing that out for me. It might be just me over complicating everything, but Scrog seems like a fairly simple method of training if one knows how it works hehe. I'll be removing the older fan leaves like you suggested and I figured out I'll remove the undergrowth in about a week in flower (you did that as well more or less at the same time of your first grow right?), when I get an image of how much stretch is occuring.
Also I re-read your first grow, that was fun. I'll be using your thread, if you don't mind, for guidance.
Fortunately I have one plant, maybe two more if things go as planned, but your four plant scrog grow went swell (in terms of buds too).

dopechess said:

you ever thought about using a portable humidifier? this one looks really neat.. USB lower power and portable. I would get one, but my humidity hardly drops below 40%.

http://www.amazon.com/Cool-Mist-Humidifier-Stick-Deneve®/dp/B00TD17MB2/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1448428413&sr=8-3&keywords=portable+humidifier

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Hey man, problem is they don't work really well unfortunately. I have a small USB mini humidifier, definitely not as powerful as the one you showed (thanks btw), plus my big one is struggling a lot, so I don't see how a smaller one would manage.

Anyway, I figured out what if I just properly humidify the whole room and see what happens then. After a whole day of misting RH went up to around 40% near the intakes outside, so that's commendable, although I highly doubt it's going to be the same situation inside the box. I'll wait a few more days and maybe I'll budge the RH higher.

Also, I envy you so much about your humidity. rarely drops below 40%, damn, now that's soemthing I need haha. Thanks for stopping by.

Going to flip to the flowering phase today.. just going to go with it until the end. I'll NEVER buy dodgy seeds again. From now on I'll concentrate on the oldest and most well known strains eg. Og Kush, Pineapple Express etc.

I swear, after all this time I rule the problems down to genetics, ebacuse I have absolutely scoured the internet for answers and I am doing nothing wrong.

Oh well...

I got lucky Gregor , and was given top notch strains as clones from a good friend, sometimes I wonder if I could keep a seed alive, so your one up on me there,, you too fish,, When you eliminate all that could be wrong and everything is right, then it has to be genetics , I had to toss out one of my plants a few days ago, that plant just wasnt doing it, it was just sickly,, I doubt Ill grow that strain again,, live and learn,, look forward to seeing what you harvest out of this grow