finally going to start my get people high grow, some questions

GuLaMaStEr

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Ok well as you can see this is my first post so i will start off with a lil bit about myself.

ME...lol
-well i started toking in grade 8, and ever since the first time i tasted the sweet sweet smoke i have vowed to never stop and to get as many people high as i possibly can as long as they are willing (peer pressure is for assholes). So before i started smoking my life was shit literally a ball of shit lol, i hated the world and how everything works...i wanted to live on an island by myself. I had a horible family to grow up in...since i can remember i havent trusted anyone (not because i dont want to...but thats what my childhood did to me) not even my parents, i also have some thing...dont know what to call it but i dont remember like 99% of anything from my past before i started smoking weed i think it was because of how draumatizing it was. but then i was introduced to maryjane the one thing that brought happiness into my life, only to find that these horrid people who run our lives had made it illegal. I decided then that if all i do is good with this i dont think the planet will let me down, im very spiritual, never believed in god, seemed to absurd that this being would need money which is something material to control something he created wtf...?!?!?

-now my username does not go without meaning, there are currently 6 people that i have built some trust with (you have no idea how had this is for me....never had a girlfriend for more then 3 days lol) I met these people when i went to university last year 3 of which are in a band named "the weeds" who are fucking kick ass and will be on the radio soon they just finished their new 12 song album and oh man its fucking sweet, check them out on myspace. anyways these guys named their weed "gula" and ever sine i heard this name i loved it....marijuana is just a name, so ill call it gula lol. and as time went on i started to sell weed, now im not the run of the mill dealer...u come to me with your money and i work to get you high :)....come to me with no money and i dont hate you ill smoke you on weed if i have it(takes more for me to hate then trust...but i will stilll sell you weed, there is NO reason to stop someone from toking even if it is personal). My mentallitly brought me to the top quickly where i was selling up to 2 pounds a day (lived on campus residence) and making 0 dollars this is because if i had made my money back and had weed left and u came to grab i would just blaze you, i saw no need to make money from weed it went against what i live my life for. so as i got closer to those 6 people (the other 3 being girls) they dubbed me the gula master, ill never forget that day. the point of this and why i was the 'GUlamaster' is because i was selling 2 pounds a day when other people on campus where selling and oz tops, i took people down like the trees in the amazon...lol, and never got caught i had residence police in my room 3 times over the year with over 2 pounds of gula at sometimes. 4 other dealers who sold an oz a day got caught and ciminally charged and i never got caught...selling 2 ps a day, guess brains has alot to do with it. so now i have decided in the next month or 2 to start my own grow i just want 8 plants.

THE GET PEOPLE HIGH GROW

ok well i want this to fit in a closet so im looking at making it about 3' wide 2' deep and 4.5' tall, this will give me about 2.7' of grow height, and 13 cubic feet of grow space. i plan to use a 400w mh for veg and 400hps for flower and 2 2' flourescent tubes with full spectrum tubes. i plan to have 2 6" inline duct fans hooked up to individual dimmers, one hooked up to a 6" kool tube reflector and a carbon filter leaving one side of the reflector open so it removes bulb heat and ventilates the cab, while the other will be used as an intake. i want a 12" oscillating fan for stong stems. and i will probably do that sugar and yeast co2 thing. i am going to build my own static solution hydro system, with ciculation pump and 4 12 inch air stones.

QUESTIONS

now i was wondering what height should i veg to? mostly going to be indica dominant strains that are meant to grow small

Is it worth it to prune/top the plants in this space?

organic or non orgranic nutrients? organic will make smoother tastier smoke or is this a myth?

do you recommend any alterations to my intended set up? i plan to build it out of 1/2" thick wood and line it with a white reflector of some sort.

thanks a lot guys in advance,

remember what goes around comes around...so get out there and smoke with new people all it can do is good
 

AsbestosToast

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Hey man, your set up sounds pretty solid, and while I don't quite have the knowledge to answer your questions, I think topping will help, because it will give you more branches and less vertical growth. You should also look into either scroging or lst'ing, these should help you with a vertically challenging space. Keep up the attitude man, I'm a firm believer of the smoke and smoke alike rule. The weed community needs more people like you. This isnt some drug like crack to be hoarded for ourselves, we should all be sharing with the people we care about, especially the ones that are in need and will share alike. Good luck with your grow man, keeps us posted!
 

GuLaMaStEr

Active Member
hey, thanks for the reply, yeah i looked into the lst'ing and scroging but it just isnt my style i want my weed plant to look like a weed plant lol. i unnno topping is even cutting it for me, i want the plant to grow how it should, took me a while to warm up to the whole hydro thing so maybe no lst or scroging my frist grow but it will be something on my mind.

after some research i think i may be keeping a mother plant just in a pot under a cfl so i dont have to keep buying seeds...want to do a "bonsai" mother i read about here. i have also considered making my grow space 4' wide and ditching the oscilating fan so i can accomidate some more plants.

now if i have 8 plants in a 2' deep 4' wide 2.7' tall growing space...
a) should i top them? (i dont want to do scroging or lst my first grow)
b) can i top my plants if i dont veg them? (start flowering from seedling?)
c) would more or less plants create more yield for this grow space?
d) if i dont veg my plants will this make them grow faster or slower then if i did veg them?
e) would splitting my rezevoir so i can have plants at 2 stages of flower be a good idea? because i can have buds harvested more often and i can have less space (2/3 the space of the second stage) for the first stage as the plant wont be as big as the second stage where it will now have more room to flower?
f) thanks alot
 

GuLaMaStEr

Active Member
ok after doing more research. i have noticed something....i need to do a lot more...supposibly over 1000 hours of straight forum reading is not enough for me!

but it is obvious here that lots of threads dont get answered because they are considered 'newb' but guys u were there once too...you didnt yield a pound every 2 weeks ur first grow n shit...so not always answering but leading the person to the answer is very much appreciated there is like 2 gazillion threads on this site.

anyways im starting to lean more towards a perpetual grow not with 6 chambers like some on here but i rather would like a 3 chamber one...i want a veg chamber and a flower chamber thats twice the size of the veg...so i will have 3 DWC tub style systems going with 4-8 plants in them (need help figuring how many would be best) i want them to be about 12" wide and 20" deep. now i plan to start from seeds then right before my first batch goes from veg to flower i will take cuttings and start the next cycle of plants from those.. now i was considering more chambers but if i do it this way the plants will be in each flower stage for 4-4.5 weeks leaving me 1-2 weeks to clone and 2-3.5 weeks for veg...meaning that i can top my plants with out having to do it in the flower cycle like my previous idea would have entailed. this way i wont need mothers and this will all fit in a 2' deep 3'6" wide grow space. im going to go in paint right now and do a mock up to give a better idea of what im going for here.
 

GuLaMaStEr

Active Member
OK guys here she is.. i plan to put power cords and air pumps on the shelf the veg room creates... anyone know how to make a computer fan work for an outlet? ...probably somewhere on here but hiding as always lol....any recommendations??
 

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NoDrama

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KISS..keep your first few grows as easy as possible. Make the goal to have a harvest, even if its small. Light, soil, water, fertilizer is all you need. If your going to start with Hydro, then your probably going to need to do some more reading.

personally I would use 1 400 watt HPS with MH conversion bulb and HPS bulb. 5 gallon soil containers with Fox Farm Ocean Forest soil, some decent fertilizer ( So Many to choose from) and thats about all you really need.

Its much easier, no pumps, no PH meters, no TDS meters, no air pumps and airstones, way less maintenance and tinkering.

Get a few soil grows out of the way and then switch over to hydro, its complimentary to it. You will probably learn the most those first few grows, and it won't go so fast and leave you confused as what to do next.

Soil can take more noob abuse and mistakes than hydro can, 1 bad screw up in hydo means all plants die, with soil you have time to make things better.
 

GuLaMaStEr

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thanks for the response there NoDrama, but although i have never grown before, im a)not stupid b) hate fucking shit up c) research more then you could imagine (not working at the moment lol)

no dis-respect i know your probably highly reputable but i just dont want soil dawg...

i just dont like the idea of me coming in an apartment with bags of soil...kinda baited...i have heard stories of ppl geting busted for suspicion OF CARRYING WATTER JUGS in an apartment.

so this has left me with hydro, and i dont see how one thing can fuck up hydro so bad...im going to be doing a static/dwc whatever u wanna call it setup so i rely mainly on air stones...which i will check for clogging enough times and i will have 2 air pumps each with 4 outlets so i can have 2 air stones per tub running off different pumps so if one fails there is still oxygen. and i will use my computer UPS (big ass battery) rated at 1000w well over my grow ops total watts to pull me through any small power outages (live in the city).
 
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