Fems or Regs

bmeat you may want to check this link out. You may be surprised at how many metals a plant requires for growth...

http://www.ptable.com/

yes! we all require minerals and vitamins (which our bodies dont synthesize) so we get these from our diet, more specifically, from the plants that absorb the minerals through the soil in minute amounts! we also get these through the animals that eat the plants that abosrbed the minerals. its an excellent, delicate balance of things, and we shouldnt distrub it.

well, trouser, it looks like you are still denying or dont know your own process. that baffles me!

you either turn a female plant into a hermie with a large does of heavy metals resulting in a (female+male)(female) setup. the hermie alone will produce seeds, and the hermie x female combo will also produce seeds.

hermie = male and female
female = female

(male+female)(female)

=malefemale (hermie)

=femalefemale (female)

or you try and let a plant "over flower" to see if itll turn itself into a hermie to pollinate itself, and then other females (if you would like). problem is, regular seeds WONT do this, only feminized seeds will.

"How to Make Feminized Cannabis Seeds Using Rodelization

Pros:

• All-Natural
• Very Simple

Cons:

• Unreliable
• May not produce many feminized seeds

The Rodelization method is all-natural and is the simplest method to create feminized seeds, but it is also unreliable and may not produce much pollen. Basically, the premise is that some female marijuana plants will start growing male pollen sacs / sex organs if they've been left in flowering too long (past the peak point of harvest). This is a last-ditch attempt by the marijuana plant to pollinate itself so that it at least produces a few seeds. You can collect these male pods and use the pollen inside them to pollinate other female plants. You pollinate female plants by evenly covering their buds with the pollen after they've been in flowering for 2-3 weeks. Females that are pollinated in this way will start growing all-female marijuana seeds. If you're very careful, you can pollinate only some of the buds on a plant which will produce seeds, and leave other buds alone so they can still be used for consumption.
This issue with this method is that some strains of plants never seem to grow male characteristics naturally. Additionally, with this method, you're selecting for plants that have a natural genetic tendency to show male characteristics. This can possibly produce offspring that are more likely to show male characteristics themselves which may or may not be what you're going for. Lastly, even when you do get male pollen sacs from a marijuana plant in this way, there tends to be a lot less pollen than from a typical male plant.
The one great thing about this method is it's completely all-natural so you can implement this strategy with an organic grow.
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thats all there is to it. no less and no more. injesting silver in the recommended 30ppm+ dose if dangerous for all forms of life, human or plant.

bmeat please get a clue. You have exposed yourself and have been exposed. You can copy/paste all you like. But its only digging you in deeper rather than helping to pull you out.

Trousers said:

There is no evidence that organic food is more nutritious.

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I agreed with you up til here. There is some evidence actually. Some also say there is no health benefit so it's unsettled. I don't blame anyone, for example, for thinking a tomato grown with miracle grow and pesticides is less healthy than one grown with a mixture of organic composts and no pesticides.

1blazeking said:

I agreed with you up til here. There is some evidence actually.

http://ecochildsplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/organicvs.conventiona.jpg

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Something you all should look up is Dr. Lynette Morgans research on lettuce production. Here is a teaser: the benefits using azomite in lettuce produce has reveled this. Although the plant and its growth process do not require many of the multiple trace minerals. They do however still absorb and store in the tissue some of them causing no harm to the plant or productivity. Yet these trace elements can be passed to us when we consume the leaves benefiting from them............



Its may be a crazy and chaotic world we live in, but still has its physical limits. These limits have been set by nature herself. And nature herself has been producing femmed beans for nearly an eternity. If she hadnt we possibly wouldnt be having this conversation on a site such as this, much less even growing cannabis.....


Cool Running's........

some of you are ignorant and clueless, and some just dont want to listen.

alex, im not just copy and pasting. thats my info on how to feminze a seed, with what we like to call in text citation, only becuase some of you will bash me for making things up, even though im not. and the citations just back me up, and also teach. now we all know how to feminze a seed! buy a femized seed, let it over flower, let it pollinate itself and boom, more seeds. it wont always work though, becuase some feminized seeds dont always hermie out (for an unknown reason. the creator might not even know, becuase he didnt invent hermies, we did)

ill show you where youre right and wrong.

These limits have been set by nature herself. And nature herself has been producing femmed beans for nearly an eternity. If she hadnt been none of us would be having this conversation on a site such as this, much less even growing cannabis.....

the bolded parts are correct. and the process of lettuce absobing the minerals from the ground, yeah..i know that. i said that. thats exactly how we naturally get our vitamins and minerals, since we dont synthesize them in our bodies. there is a limit though, and that limit has been set by nature. when we get involved, harvest silver, spray silver, ITS NOT NATURAL AND NOT NORMAL

Google search function says otherwise. Its like links in a chain...right now your the missing link...

Um... Chromosome chart I remember:
XX - Female
XY - Male
XXy Hermaphrodite
XYy Super Male
XXx Super Female

Normally Super Males and Super Females abort, or die very young. Hermaphrodite features don't always express in plants, or outwardly, in humans (you don't always get a nutsack.)

You can NOT destroy a chromosome not there. Females do NOT carry the genetic code for a "Y" Chromosome, only plants with a recessive, extraneous chromosome (a "y" or hermaphrodite chromosome) could have that trait destroyed. Forcing "balls" forces the plant to create a pollen sac, which is full of little female pollen. The miracle of plants -- they really can go fuck themselves.
Theoretically, you should be able to destroy the Y chromosome in a male -- but, that would be kinda' silly, wiping out half of the genetic encoding, and any chance at passing DNA. It WOULD be helpful if you could only wipe out that genetic trait in pollen (i.e., a chemical sterilization that only affects the Y chromosome. )

bmeat said:

well, trouser, it looks like you are still denying or dont know your own process. that baffles me!

you either turn a female plant into a hermie with a large does of heavy metals resulting in a (female+male)(female) setup.

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I feel sorry for you.
Where does the male come from? You can not create a Y chromosome out of thin air. Well, it is Christmas time, maybe we should look for a star in the east.

bmeat said:

the hermie alone will produce seeds, and the hermie x female combo will also produce seeds.

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That depends. When I make feminized seeds, I spray the whole plant so it does not really show that many female flowers and usually does not produce seeds.
I prefer the term "shemale" over "hermie"

bmeat said:

hermie = male and female

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Not in properly produced feminized seeds. The Y chromosome is not there, like your ability to understand even the simplest things.

bmeat said:

female = female

(male+female)(female)

=malefemale (hermie)

=femalefemale (female)

or you try and let a plant "over flower" to see if itll turn itself into a hermie to pollinate itself, and then other females (if you would like). problem is, regular seeds WONT do this, only feminized seeds will.

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wow

You are potentially the stupidest person I have ever interacted with on the internet.
I couldn't make this stuff up.








Stupid people, here is your King.
Bow down and drool on his undone velcro sneakers, for he is truly your (stupid) Messiah, emphasis on "mess."

bmeat said:

thats all there is to it. no less and no more. injesting silver in the recommended 30ppm+ dose if dangerous for all forms of life, human or plant.

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Saying that over and over does not make you right.
I don't ingest the colloidal silver. I spray a plant with it. It is neither dangerous to me or the plant.

The plants that I have sprayed have all thrived.

How does the colloidal silver harm you when it is numerous steps away from actually consuming the plant?
What kind of concentration of it would be in the pollen?
What kind of concentration from that tiny bit of pollen would get into the actual seed?

Let's just imagine, for that sake of the King, that some of the colloidal silver is in the seed:

I plant that colloidal infested seed in the ground, it shouldn't grow right? How could a seed that has that "poison" in it actually germinate?

You are so stupid it is evil. Evil stupid.
I eagerly await your next post.

worth a repost imvho.

ok, you admit its a shemale.

according to me, this guy, and all of the literature on the net, a hermie/shemale DOES in fact have a y chromosome. or it wouldnt produce any pollen. whether you want to call it female or shemale or male pollen is up to you.

"Um... Chromosome chart I remember:
XX - Female
XY - Male
XXy Hermaphrodite
XYy Super Male
XXx Super Female

Normally Super Males and Super Females abort, or die very young. Hermaphrodite features don't always express in plants, or outwardly, in humans (you don't always get a nutsack.)

You can NOT destroy a chromosome not there. Females do NOT carry the genetic code for a "Y" Chromosome, only plants with a recessive, extraneous chromosome (a "y" or hermaphrodite chromosome) could have that trait destroyed. Forcing "balls" forces the plant to create a pollen sac, which is full of little female pollen. The miracle of plants -- they really can go fuck themselves.
Theoretically, you should be able to destroy the Y chromosome in a male -- but, that would be kinda' silly, wiping out half of the genetic encoding, and any chance at passing DNA. It WOULD be helpful if you could only wipe out that genetic trait in pollen (i.e., a chemical sterilization that only affects the Y chromosome. )"

i will end on this note.

trouser, you may want to check your face for signs of this.

i also think you should wear a mask when you apply your potion.

http://thehappyhospitalist.blogspot.com/2010/04/picture-of-argyria-or-silver-toxicity.html

bmeat said:

ok, you admit its a shemale.

according to me, this guy, and all of the literature on the net, a hermie/shemale DOES in fact have a y chromosome. or it wouldnt produce any pollen. whether you want to call it female or shemale or male pollen is up to you.

"Um... Chromosome chart I remember:
XX - Female
XY - Male
XXy Hermaphrodite
XYy Super Male
XXx Super Female

Normally Super Males and Super Females abort, or die very young. Hermaphrodite features don't always express in plants, or outwardly, in humans (you don't always get a nutsack.)

You can NOT destroy a chromosome not there. Females do NOT carry the genetic code for a "Y" Chromosome, only plants with a recessive, extraneous chromosome (a "y" or hermaphrodite chromosome) could have that trait destroyed. Forcing "balls" forces the plant to create a pollen sac, which is full of little female pollen. The miracle of plants -- they really can go fuck themselves.
Theoretically, you should be able to destroy the Y chromosome in a male -- but, that would be kinda' silly, wiping out half of the genetic encoding, and any chance at passing DNA. It WOULD be helpful if you could only wipe out that genetic trait in pollen (i.e., a chemical sterilization that only affects the Y chromosome. )"

i will end on this note.

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this whole article is talking about normal hermie plants m8, not plants that were forced to grow male stamen due to the use of a chemical.. how can you not see this??
in a normal female plant, there is 2 x chromsomes, these are what are used to grow fem'ed beans with.. again, there is no y chromsome present, it's only the chemical that forces the male stamens to grow..
what is so hard to understand about this??

bmeat said:

ok, you admit its a shemale.

according to me, this guy, and all of the literature on the net, a hermie/shemale DOES in fact have a y chromosome. or it wouldnt produce any pollen. whether you want to call it female or shemale or male pollen is up to you.

"Um... Chromosome chart I remember:
XX - Female
XY - Male
XXy Hermaphrodite
XYy Super Male
XXx Super Female

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King S.

I'm going to repeat this again for you because I like you.
I want you to take a couple deep breaths and focus before reading this.


I start with a plant that has no Y chromosome. A female plant. XX- Female

I spray it with death spray that should by all rights wipe all out life forms within a 8 mile radius.
That plant somehow miraculously survives this toxic chemical death shower and shows male flowers because of a non-genetic, hormonal process.

Where does the Y chromosome come from?


Chromosome can not be created out of thin air. They do not drop from the sky.

I think you have an extra chromosome.

bmeat said:

i will end on this note.

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No you won't. You are eager to show off your intellectual prowess.

Trousers said:

King S.

I'm going to repeat this again for you because I like you.
I want you to take a couple deep breaths and focus before reading this.


I start with a plant that has no Y chromosome. A female plant. XX- Female

I spray it with death spray that should by all rights wipe all out life forms within a 8 mile radius.
That plant somehow miraculously survives this toxic chemical death shower and shows male flowers because of a non-genetic, hormonal process.

Where does the Y chromosome come from?


Chromosome can not be created out of thin air. They do not drop from the sky.

I think you have an extra chromosome.




No you won't. You are eager to show off your intellectual prowess.

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my guess would be trisomy 21, look it up if you don't know trousers, you'll get a good lol at that one..

Hermies are not normal. There would be no hermies if there werent defects due to chemical mutations

so what about all of those super males and super females?? if they occur in nature, than it's normal, and the last time i checked, we do indeed have humans who have tits and a cock, aka, hermies, therefore it's normal...