Feminized seeds & hermies. Do you want to know the truth?

themanwiththeplan said:

I'm really tired of seeing 20,000 threads/posts wondering if feminized seeds are more prone to going hermie than reg seeds or people claiming that fem seeds are prone to going hermie...

heres the truth...for the last time:











can i get a sticky?

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Sorry man, it don't work that way
50% of the RIU population can't read. Of the other 50% that can read 75% are too lazy to use search. 90%, of the the 25% who at least try to use search, cannot comprehend what they were almost intelligent enough to read.

In light of that is there even the slightest possibility that you managed to reach 1/10 of 1% of those misguided souls

Trousers said:

If you spray a plant to make it produce seeds you may have to leave a branch going much longer to get viable seeds.
If you leave the branch with the pollen too long it can make some underdeveloped seeds.
I would recommend taking two clones of the plant you want. Then you spray one for a week, put it in 12/12 for 10 days while the other clone is in veg.
Then the one that will produce the pollen has ahead start.

You can buy colloidal silver if you do not want to make it. I use Tiresias Mist. You can get it on ebay.

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SWEET! how long has this been going on? just a yr ago there were no sellers of CS for plants..just the CS you find at a healthfood store (not strong enough) etc.

this is awesome news! no more me being paranoid im gonna electrocute myself!

george xxx said:

Sorry man, it don't work that way
50% of the RIU population can't read. Of the other 50% that can read 75% are too lazy to use search. 90%, of the the 25% who at least try to use search, cannot comprehend what they were almost intelligent enough to read.

In light of that is there even the slightest possibility that you managed to reach 1/10 of 1% of those misguided souls

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doesnt help that no one bothered to actually make this a sticky. if it were a sticky id have faith that it would reach more people. 3K+ views though just by remaining near the top of the forum is pretty impressive to me though (most of my posts are lucky to get 500 views lol)

thank you this thread really help alot man. I was reading and was going to reply but seen as it was an old thread. But to see you reply just 1 day when i read this hahaha. I have questions to ask that i need to clear my mind up.

I have some fem seeds already, but want to make more.
by flowering a feminized fem and making male pollen without stressing it out? so to use cs is fine, but not stressing the plant out to make it hermie?
flower the plant longer to make it pollinate itself then producing only fem seeds XX + XX. - but you know, hows producing male pollens late flower does that still count as it being a hermies? Although i know that the seeds that come out of it are all fems.

BecauseIgotHigh said:

thank you this thread really help alot man. I was reading and was going to reply but seen as it was an old thread. But to see you reply just 1 day when i read this hahaha. I have questions to ask that i need to clear my mind up.

I have some fem seeds already, but want to make more.
by flowering a feminized fem and making male pollen without stressing it out? so to use cs is fine, but not stressing the plant out to make it hermie?
flower the plant longer to make it pollinate itself then producing only fem seeds XX + XX. - but you know, hows producing male pollens late flower does that still count as it being a hermies? Although i know that the seeds that come out of it are all fems.

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when a plant doesnt hermie during flowering but does after being left in 12/12 (for a very long time past the point of ripening) those bananas (male parts) are not true hermies. thats the plants last ditch effort to preserve itself because it didnt get preggo during the first part of flowering to produce seeds.

hope that makes sense.

also its a good idea to stress your plants to test for hermies in flowering but you dont want to stress them and have it go hermie then breed it because you'll continue on the hermie trait and the offspring (not all but many) will be hermie.

if you can stress a plant to hermie in flowering you probably don't want to use it for breeding.

the ideal candidate for breeding would be a female that stays female even after being subjected to loads of light stress. this is just a step needed if you plan on selling your beans. if you plan on just growing for yourself i assume its okay to skip that step.


let me know if that takes care of your questions. if i missed something or something isnt clear feel free to let me know.

ill be checking up on this thread from time to time like i do now.

seriously though...can we sticky this or what? how does one get a thread sticky'd???

Been looking around in hydro shops for this Tiresias mist, no one has herd of it. I'd prefer to get,it from a brick and mortar thn order online. Anyone know if it's commercially available anywhere?

obijohn said:

Been looking around in hydro shops for this Tiresias mist, no one has herd of it. I'd prefer to get,it from a brick and mortar thn order online. Anyone know if it's commercially available anywhere?

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more than likely the person advertising it on ebay made it themselves and just put labels etc to make it marketable.

My first thought was YES finally i dont have to fear electrocution to get my hands on CS then i realized "DAMMIT! y didnt i think of that?!"

CS can be made on your own if you're careful not to electrocute yourself (ie. dont let the wires touch the water!) but its dangerous imo. i'll probably buy some on ebay because ill be honest i HATE making CS. it seems kind of a ripoff that you have to pay $20 for 1oz of it though. so idk. i might make my own batch.

They sell Tiresias Mist in hydro stores around here. I got it from a hydro store on ebay.

You can use a 9volt battery to make colloidal silver. I am lazy, Tiresias Mist works, it is only $20. I have heard some say that homemade colloidal silver can sometimes have low ppms.
Here is their website:
http://www.drtsremedies.net/Tiresias-Mist-1-oz-bottle-PN10001.htm

Trousers, I have to ask....what the hell is your icon? It's disturbing yet oddly hypnotizing

Why would this be stickied and i wrote a few articles similar and some even better.Maybe they should sticky my journal post about spotting sex before flowers,that i have a 100% success rate with.The information posted here is nothing new.

Trousers said:

They sell Tiresias Mist in hydro stores around here. I got it from a hydro store on ebay.

You can use a 9volt battery to make colloidal silver. I am lazy, Tiresias Mist works, it is only $20. I have heard some say that homemade colloidal silver can sometimes have low ppms.
Here is their website:
http://www.drtsremedies.net/Tiresias-Mist-1-oz-bottle-PN10001.htm

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how does the 9v method work? ive only heard of the wall outlet/phone charger method. i have a hard time parting with $25 for 1oz of CS lol

HotShot7414 said:

Why would this be stickied and i wrote a few articles similar and some even better.Maybe they should sticky my journal post about spotting sex before flowers,that i have a 100% success rate with.The information posted here is nothing new.

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sure its nothing new for those who do their homework (obviously like yourself) but all the pages of people arguing about fems being hermie in this thread proves that not everyone knows. my post wasnt meant to be a grand lesson originally...more of a rant that i posted lol

themanwiththeplan said:

sure its nothing new for those who do their homework (obviously like yourself) but all the pages of people arguing about fems being hermie in this thread proves that not everyone knows. my post wasnt meant to be a grand lesson originally...more of a rant that i posted lol

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Yeah i have a couple of those too lol not too many though hahaha

Just an FYI for folks in the Sacramento area, Greenhouse Garden Supply in Carmichael carries Tiresias Mist.

themanwiththeplan said:

how does the 9v method work? ive only heard of the wall outlet/phone charger method. i have a hard time parting with $25 for 1oz of CS lol

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http://www.electroherbalism.com/Bioelectronics/OtherBioelectronics/ColloidalSilver.htm


$25 is less than two fem seeds from many places.
I produced thousands of seeds with one bottle.
It is strong and I am lazy. It's $20 on ebay.

I probably sprayed too much and could spray two entire plants with one bottle.

Trousers said:

http://www.electroherbalism.com/Bioelectronics/OtherBioelectronics/ColloidalSilver.htm


$25 is less than two fem seeds from many places.
I produced thousands of seeds with one bottle.
It is strong and I am lazy. It's $20 on ebay.

I probably sprayed too much and could spray two entire plants with one bottle.

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good point. i clicked your link and seen on the page that theres another link to someone selling a premade CS generator...160 dollars! damn.

good point on $20 being not a lot of $$$ for possible thousands of seeds (mattering on how big you grow your plant and how much cs u use etc) i might just order some on ebay. i intend on using it (for starters) on a good female plant to make S1's out of a pack of regs...then maybe i'll work on some simple crosses etc.

You can make one with a cell phone charger. I just didn't want to deal once I found the mist.
As for crosses, I do not know how stable they will be. I imagine it is like any other breeding, I will have to do some back crossing if I want stability.
But yeah, my main focus now is to make some uncrossed fem seeds. I will get two clones that are the same (one for pollen, one for seeds) and one that will be a cross. Maybe 2 OG Kush plants and a Strawberry Cough for a cross?

I just dumped some pollen on an ISS plant. I do not know if the pollen is viable, but if it is I will have a Blueberry x ISS.
The resulting plant Bliss (Blueberry ISS) I hope.

Me and friends are growing the auto crosses outside right now. I will be able to compare some plants to see if there is a lot of variation.

I used Lowryder2 as the dad, because it is probably the most stable auto. I will be doing more auto crosses.
autos are amazing, I can give a seed to a friend who can do almost everything wrong and still get some buds.


This is really exciting stuff.

Trousers said:

You can make one with a cell phone charger. I just didn't want to deal once I found the mist.
As for crosses, I do not know how stable they will be. I imagine it is like any other breeding, I will have to do some back crossing if I want stability.
But yeah, my main focus now is to make some uncrossed fem seeds. I will get two clones that are the same (one for pollen, one for seeds) and one that will be a cross. Maybe 2 OG Kush plants and a Strawberry Cough for a cross?

I just dumped some pollen on an ISS plant. I do not know if the pollen is viable, but if it is I will have a Blueberry x ISS.
The resulting plant Bliss (Blueberry ISS) I hope.

Me and friends are growing the auto crosses outside right now. I will be able to compare some plants to see if there is a lot of variation.

I used Lowryder2 as the dad, because it is probably the most stable auto. I will be doing more auto crosses.
autos are amazing, I can give a seed to a friend who can do almost everything wrong and still get some buds.


This is really exciting stuff.

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awesome hope you post your results. im still trying to decide on what i wanna make my beans from. i figure like i said...just keep it simple the first go around and make S1's with my best looking female. i'll probably start with jillybean just because ive wanted to try it forever and having it in fem seed form would be awesome for me especially if its as happy of an effect as everyone says.

i use to have a list going of what i wanted to eventually cross with what but i lost it and my mind is kinda blank.

hmmm.

i know i wanna breed a hashplant with a sensi star or similar or two different hashplant varieties with each other. looking to make an epic lights out indica 4 myself.

then maybe do some 100% sativa's with big bud or similar to increase yield and shorten the height/flowering times. maybe some haze x big bud or similar. would be nice as i do love my fair share of sativas but only work with a 150w now so they arent practical in my setup (hence my big bud and haze idea)

Along these same lines I would like to know if anyone can clarify once and for all the following: Do seeds that came from a hermied plant have any more or less of a tendency to produce more hermie plants?
I have heard both yea and nay on this subject and I have a pill bottle full of Herijuana seeds that are currently hard to get from my favorite breeder, but they came from, and are the reason why I have them from a hermied plant that produced seeds.

SO...what say you all ??