FEMINISED POLLEN PROS -CONS

VTMi'kmaq

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I have ZERO experiance with this. Can anyone with experiance please give me a brief disertation? One that can teach us here that want to absorb this knowledge? please and thankyou.
 

Budgoro88

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I have ZERO experiance with this. Can anyone with experiance please give me a brief disertation? One that can teach us here that want to absorb this knowledge? please and thankyou.
I don't believe there is a con to feminized pollen if you don't have huge areas to grow 100s of beans to select a father and mother there's nothing better than lesbeins. I do a little of both breeding but fem is my specialty. People will chime in on how fem pollen is hermie prone etc this is not the case depending on how you get the pollen I grow a plant 3 times before choosing each time beating the hell out of the one I want to breed I'll top it a few times while in deep flower I'll let them go past 12 weeks flower for 8 weeks strains and I over feed the hell out of it if and super crop through out flower if it passes these tests I use tirelisis mist and take the pollen and put on another plant who can handle this stress and the outcome is absolutely astonishing
 

BreenGuds

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I don't believe there is a con to feminized pollen if you don't have huge areas to grow 100s of beans to select a father and mother there's nothing better than lesbeins. I do a little of both breeding but fem is my specialty. People will chime in on how fem pollen is hermie prone etc this is not the case depending on how you get the pollen I grow a plant 3 times before choosing each time beating the hell out of the one I want to breed I'll top it a few times while in deep flower I'll let them go past 12 weeks flower for 8 weeks strains and I over feed the hell out of it if and super crop through out flower if it passes these tests I use tirelisis mist and take the pollen and put on another plant who can handle this stress and the outcome is absolutely astonishing
I was just thinking about this. Can I harvest an entire plant minus one bud and let that over rippen to get the fem pollen?

And while I'm thinking of it, what happens to a bud ready to harvest if the lights revert to a veg schedule? That I may have to try for myself.
 

Budgoro88

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I was just thinking about this. Can I harvest an entire plant minus one bud and let that over rippen to get the fem pollen?

And while I'm thinking of it, what happens to a bud ready to harvest if the lights revert to a veg schedule? That I may have to try for myself.
You can pick which sites receive pollen as for switching schedules I wouldn't advise it if you want seeds do a seed run with the sole purpose to generate seeds
 

BreenGuds

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No, if i was going for seeds I wouldn't reveg. That last part was more curiosity.

And the real question was not so much can I pollinate a single bud site, more can I leave a single bud to overrippen and receive pollen from that single bud to apply to another, say next harvest, for the seeds.
 

BreenGuds

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I'm learning that slowly but surely
It is a constant learning process. The way I grow now is nothing to when I first started. Although that is partly due to getting the basic necessities in the beginning and then adding better things little by little. The only thing I need now is a larger room, that'll come soon when I purchase my new house. Already have the layout in mind. Haha.
 

Rob Roy

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No, if i was going for seeds I wouldn't reveg. That last part was more curiosity.

And the real question was not so much can I pollinate a single bud site, more can I leave a single bud to overrippen and receive pollen from that single bud to apply to another, say next harvest, for the seeds.

Some females of certain strains throw a "desperation" male flower or two easier than others at the end of their flowering cycle.

The answer to your question is yes, if it is a strain which has a genetic tendency to fuck itself if no males are available.

You could also try taking a known female plant and subject it to light bleed and it might throw some male flowers (containing "female" pollen).

Good luck.
 

BreenGuds

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Some females of certain strains throw a "desperation" male flower or two easier than others at the end of their flowering cycle.

The answer to your question is yes, if it is a strain which has a genetic tendency to fuck itself if no males are available.

You could also try taking a known female plant and subject it to light bleed and it might throw some male flowers (containing "female" pollen).

Good luck.
Light bleed? Is that a term for letting a flowering plant recieve light in dark period? Wouldn't that hermie a plant. Which brings me to the question, hermie seed are susceptible to being hermies themselves? Sorry for the questions and I know I could search these questions my self and feel I semi-know the answers, but thought I'd ask anyways.
 

Rob Roy

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Light bleed? Is that a term for letting a flowering plant recieve light in dark period? Wouldn't that hermie a plant. Which brings me to the question, hermie seed are susceptible to being hermies themselves? Sorry for the questions and I know I could search these questions my self and feel I semi-know the answers, but thought I'd ask anyways.

No need to apologize for asking questions.

Yes, light bleed means an interruption in the dark cycle. It often causes male flowering on female plants, but if it is infrequent or limited you may get lucky and nothing bad happens. If you are growing a few different strains and your plants experience light bleed, you may notice some threw male flowers while others didn't.

Some plants are genetically hermies, meaning even without any kind of stress they will present both male and female flowers. These plants have a very high percent of their seed production being hermies, these are only useful for throwing on the lawns of Police stations or City Halls etc.

Some plants are females but "become" hermies upon some level of stress, such as light bleed interrupting the dark cycle. The pollen from their male flowers they develop can give feminized seeds. You'll need to decide if keeping them going is a good idea or not as their pollen can jump to the girls beside them and give you seeded bud you didn't want.

Some female plants will toss a few males flowers very late in their flowering cycle, even without light bleed or other stress. That pollen can be used to create fem seeds. These are the girls that never got laid and decided "fuck it, I don't need a man, so they take matters into their own hands. Okay, I made the last part up.

Using colloidal silver and making fem seeds might be a good read for you, there are some threads on this site detailing growers experiences with that method. Good luck.
 

BreenGuds

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I have read a bit about colloidal silver and its use. Not that there is anything natural about getting fems seeds, but I was going for a more natural way besides a chem spray, like way over rippened buds. So far only had one plant go hermie, and that was my first grow and I did save the seeds. But those were from an auto, and I'm not sure about how those seeds would turn out.
 

GroErr

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Hmmm, this talk about waiting/over-ripening to get some nanners doesn't sit well with me. If I had a strain/pheno that did that, I wouldn't want to carry that trait down to anything I crossed with it. CS is your best bet if you want fems. Some folks have used (@Budgoro88 mentioned it above) a more natural spray called Tiresias Mist if the idea of CS freaks you out.
 

BreenGuds

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Hmmm. I'm definitely going to look into these methods. Getting to the point when I need to (want to anyways) generate my own seeds. Clones are not an option for me anytime soon. Also trying to not have to order any either. Have a few seeds left to grow of some decent photo strains. I'm going to see what I can do.
 

Budgoro88

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The secret to make fem seeds with old school breeders is root pruning, tis how it was done before the chems were used. Was kept secret for lots of years
Can we get a little deeper with this I'm fascinated and feel like a breeder who failed for not thinking of this
 

Uberknot

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Can we get a little deeper with this I'm fascinated and feel like a breeder who failed for not thinking of this
More or less it's the stress that will make them Hermie or produce males flowers. Some are easier than others.

Probably some form of prodding the soil around the plant with a rod and stirring the roots a bit might work?

Just a guess, but stress is the main thing.
 

RM3

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Can we get a little deeper with this I'm fascinated and feel like a breeder who failed for not thinking of this
I have written words from E$kobar when he was explaining this method.

1.Where is developing flowering hormone in plant? answer- in tips of a root

2.In what time of flowering he develops? answer- Between 7-21 days of flowering time

3.What will happen if we cut those root tips in that time? answer -If we cutt those root tips we will change female to male
and then we can use this pollen for creating fems.
 

tonygreen

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The secret to make fem seeds with old school breeders is root pruning, tis how it was done before the chems were used. Was kept secret for lots of years
Root stress is one of my main tests to look for intersex traits. Good call dude.
 
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