Extreme Yellowing Early In Flower and fan leaves wilting/clawing! Help guys!

jdubwetherell1988

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I GAVE HER THE BONE MEAL 6-9-0 (3 TBSP), EPSOMA BIO-TONE 4-3-3 (3 TBSP) AND A GALLON OF WATER WITH 1 TBSP OF ALSAKA FISH FIERTILIZER 5-1-1, SHOULD THAT FIX IT IN THE NEXT WEEK?
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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make sure that when you do water you are completeley saturating the medium and then allowing it to drain well. if you just pour 1 gallon of water in the pot most of it will run down the sides and out the bottom and what happens is it creates hydrophobic spots in the mediium making it so some of the soil is always dry...

what i like to do to get a thourogh watering is let the hose sit in the bucket on full blast for 10 min or place the plant pot and all in a bigger container full of water and allow it to soak up the water untill it is submerged, then pull it out and allow it to drain..

if you have hydrophobic pockets in the soil the roots are dying and your plant is not able to take up enough nutrients due to lack of root system.

so long story short. mix up a bucket of nutrient water that is bigger than your container...place plant in the nutrient bucket pot and all and allow it to completly saturate. if you do it this way it will take longer to dry out and you can feed once a week with the same method and keep the plants happy

at leastthats what i do when i have hot weather.
 

greasemonkeymann

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PLEASE DONT TREAT ME LIKE A NEWBEE CAUSE I KNOW TONS ABOUT ORGANICS
ok, don't take this the wrong way, but you have a bit to learn about organics.
every three days with that tea is TOO much.
The fish emulsion is a good source of nitrogen. The bone meal isn't water soluble so that's a waste of time. Mychorrizae should be applied to the roots, not as a tea.
Also feeding molasses every three days is going to cause a lock out of phosphorus.
you are doing too much, feeding too much. top dress plus teas, too much.
Nobody is treating you like a newb, you need to relax, getting confrontational isn't going to help you.
Turn your caps off...
 
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greasemonkeymann

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I SAID SINCE DAY 10 OF FLOWER IT STARTED YELLOWING, MY MIX WAS FINE ALL THE WAY THROUGH VEG NO DEFECINCY OR YELLOW LEAVES AT ALL, DUDE
does this shock you? considering the plant uses the nitrogen UP? It's not something that doesn't change over time, nitrogen is consumed by the plant. Dude.
 

jdubwetherell1988

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make sure that when you do water you are completeley saturating the medium and then allowing it to drain well. if you just pour 1 gallon of water in the pot most of it will run down the sides and out the bottom and what happens is it creates hydrophobic spots in the mediium making it so some of the soil is always dry...

what i like to do to get a thourogh watering is let the hose sit in the bucket on full blast for 10 min or place the plant pot and all in a bigger container full of water and allow it to soak up the water untill it is submerged, then pull it out and allow it to drain..

if you have hydrophobic pockets in the soil the roots are dying and your plant is not able to take up enough nutrients due to lack of root system.

so long story short. mix up a bucket of nutrient water that is bigger than your container...place plant in the nutrient bucket pot and all and allow it to completly saturate. if you do it this way it will take longer to dry out and you can feed once a week with the same method and keep the plants happy

at leastthats what i do when i have hot weather.
thanks ill try watering like that
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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he is right about the tea, maybe 4 watering with tea throughout the entire grow and that is TOPS.

you do seem to be getting defensive and people are just trying to help ya out. if you are not prepared to hear people advice you shouldn't come to a forums and ask for it. and the way you come off is you already know the answer.

listen. Organics are not like chemical nutrients, they are small pieces of organic matter that is put into a medium to be broken down into usefull elements for the plant. you can add and add and add all you want but its a process that takes time. this is why "cooking" a amended organic soil for 6 months to a year is a common practice, this gives the little tiny microscopic organisms time to break everything down with nothing taking back out, that way when youstart your grow the soil is heavy in nutrients and as the plant eats the soil continues to produce nutrition through these organisms breaking down the organic matter.

grass is heavy in nitrogen, you can cut grass clippings all day and shove em straight up the plants ass and its not going to help it any, they need time to decompose into usefull elements.

molasses is BAD, you should only be using 1 tblsp MAX per 5 gal of tea and you should only be feeding that tea every 4 weeks.
And tea needs to be brewed before just fed.

you ARE doing way too much to try and fix this. a deficiency doesent always mean the nutrients are not in the soil it just means the plant is not getting them, with everything you have done i highly doubt it is lack of nutes in the soil.

I would listen to grease, he seems to know what he is talking about. personally i wouldnt just transplant that bitch but u would carefully knock away as much of the old soil as possible and start with all fresh organic soil. FFOF is organic and it is loaded with available nutrients, when i was growing in soil i would mix 2 parts FFOF, 1 part pro mix (has lime in it for PH buffer) then a bag of the epsoma garden tone and that would be it. never had much need for a ton of nutrients and you will learn as you continue on that in this hobby less is more. if your plant was looking fine 3 weeks ago why did you continue adding shit to your soil, its not a person and does not need to be fed every day, generally 1 fertilizer feeding should last a plant 2 weeks. people on these forums and the're nutrients are fucking redicules,

fertilizers are the #1 problem causers on these boards, i see it every day...burnt plants and lockouts due to too much god dam fertilizers.

a basic 3 month grow you shouldnt have to fertilize anymore that 2 times!!!! once at the end of veg, and once mid bloom with a PK booster.
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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i just looked more closely and why the hell do pieces of wood on the top of your soil? thats just something else than can be fucking with the soil PH
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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also when you have an issue like this dont pull the leaves off the plant is taking nitrients from them and putting them to the more important parts of the plant, if you rip a leaf off before it has been exausted of all nutrients (i say nutrients loosly) then the plant will start pulling from another leaf..so untill you can figure the problem out allow the plant to get what it needs from each and every leaf or it will just start working on a different one.
 

bondoman

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such bad advice given. NOT nitrogen deficient. If it was N it would start to yellow at the bottom, and attack there way before the middle and top like yours is. You mention 95-100 degree temps? lol that could be a problem. Maybe cooking some roots on the side of the pot. I'd do a weak N and more PK. and provide shade to the pot underneath the plant.
 

jdubwetherell1988

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[QUOTive ="RetiredMatthebrute, post: 10817812, member: 424894"]i just looked more closely and why the hell do pieces of wood on the top of your soil? thats just something else than can be fucking with the soil PH[/QUOTE]
Dude its not PIECES IF WOOD, its mulch and ive had it on top of my soil for 3 months, its fine and it keeps the water from evaporating quickly
 
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jdubwetherell1988

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This is what I mean that why I dont ask questions cause I get 3 different answers that I already knew its not really teas its more of just feeding 1 tbsp ,2x a week
 
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jdubwetherell1988

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Its hard to burn with organic and I only use a little any ways and I havent done anthing different since the begging and everything has been fine and now this. It comes down to overwatering/rootbound/or nitro def back at square one exept for a couple tips
 
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jdubwetherell1988

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I dont have a fucking nutrient overdose so dont tell me im using too much all I did was top dress with biotone and bonemealto correct my fast yellowing before I loose all my fan leaves fuck. How Iis that too much? If im using too much nutrients then why does it seem that I have nuteogen deficency.
 
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jdubwetherell1988

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Trust me ive done plenty of grows organic proble at least 9 or 10 and they all went fine without having to ask this fuck site this isthe first time this has happened I dont even know the strain so that doesnt help me either tthere's no info on a fucking random bagseed dipshits
 

jdubwetherell1988

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such bad advice given. NOT nitrogen deficient. If it was N it would start to yellow at the bottom, and attack there way before the middle and top like yours is. You mention 95-100 degree temps? lol that could be a problem. Maybe cooking some roots on the side of the pot. I'd do a weak N and more PK. and provide shade to the pot underneath the plant.
Possible and agreed on the dumbass advice given
 

jdubwetherell1988

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also when you have an issue like this dont pull the leaves off the plant is taking nitrients from them and putting them to the more important parts of the plant, if you rip a leaf off before it has been exausted of all nutrients (i say nutrients loosly) then the plant will start pulling from another leaf..so untill you can figure the problem out allow the plant to get what it needs from each and every leaf or it will just start working on a different one.
I didnt pull them off until the leaf was exhausted they fell off basically
 

jdubwetherell1988

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I hate pulling leaves off and I agree about nevet pulling fan leaves off until there about 75% dead but when they pracatilky fall off from a bump then shit
 

bondoman

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If i were growing outdoors in a hot climate I would never use a black pot, it will absorb all of the sun and transfer it to your soil and roots. Next time either bury it or use a lighter colored pot.
 
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