Excessive pistils/hairs. Anyone else have this problem?

So I have a 400watt hps. For some reason my ratio of pistils to swollen resinous calyxs is not that great. Is this an indoor thing? I use a pro mix/ocean forest/perlite blend for my medium with House and Garden for nutes. My flowering room is running a 11 on/13 off light cycle.

I have been harvesting some pretty decent bud, but its just not what I want. The way some of the same strains have been coming out indoor (same exact- clones) in comparison just pisses me off, they come out MUCH better. I can't get that swollen outdoor look. I know I am leaving them in the flowering for plenty long enough, the last plants I clipped went 16 weeks or so, i looked at the trichome color before harvest and made sure that at least 50% of the hairs had turned on at least 75% of the plant.

The problem is just excessive amounts of pistils and the size of the calyxs never seem to fill all the way out, the plants seem to want to just keep producing more and more flowers.

What gives? could this have anything to due with the distance of the light?

Any Help is greatly appreciated.

bumppp.

I would really like to know about this as well. I just thought it was because my nugs weren't ever put into a bag and squished.. but someone that knows should shed some light.

i've never heard anyone bitching about more flowers but lol i get what your saying and ya. it could have alot to do with the proximity of light to your buds. closer is better but also strain, and temps pop in as a varible in this too.

how are you raising and lowering your light?

astro.knotts said:

how are you raising and lowering your light?

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I don't.

I raise and lower the plants themselves. I usually run multiple strains at the same time, and different age plants at the same time so that I can harvest monthly, even weekly sometimes.

All of my buds are coated with plenty of resin, just the calyxs are not fully swollen.

My temps are never above 83f during flowering, and average about 80f I'd say. Changing the temps is not an option, as I have no AC. I run the light at night to stay off of peak hours, and to reduce heat.

I am pretty sure I don't have any light leaks, but would an extremely minor light leak do this? I have went into the closet, closed the door, and that fucker is dark.

Not really sure what to do, except try different products.

I would say you should switch to straight 12/12 I have never heard of flowering under 11/13... I also can't see an hour making that much difference so who knows. pics would help

Tropic Thunder said:

I don't.

I raise and lower the plants themselves. I usually run multiple strains at the same time, and different age plants at the same time so that I can harvest monthly, even weekly sometimes.

All of my buds are coated with plenty of resin, just the calyxs are not fully swollen.

My temps are never above 83f during flowering, and average about 80f I'd say. Changing the temps is not an option, as I have no AC. I run the light at night to stay off of peak hours, and to reduce heat.

I am pretty sure I don't have any light leaks, but would an extremely minor light leak do this? I have went into the closet, closed the door, and that fucker is dark.

Not really sure what to do, except try different products.

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What is your growing method? im not an expert at all but i have read some people discourage running multiple strains in hydro cause each plant will want its own thing, more of something that other plants wont be getting. maybe its the combination of strains your running is somehow lowering nute levels in a way that effects flower size. just an idea, maybe useless advise lol

suprablaski said:

What is your growing method? im not an expert at all but i have read some people discourage running multiple strains in hydro cause each plant will want its own thing, more of something that other plants wont be getting. maybe its the combination of strains your running is somehow lowering nute levels in a way that effects flower size. just an idea, maybe useless advise lol

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Pro Mix 50%, Ocean Forest Soil 25%, Perlite 25%.

Not Hydro.

OHIghgrOw said:

I would say you should switch to straight 12/12 I have never heard of flowering under 11/13... I also can't see an hour making that much difference so who knows. pics would help

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I'm over straight 12/12.

11/13 will finish faster. You've never heard of 11/13? I've seen some of the best indoor bud come from starting with 12/12, dropping to 11/13 after 3 weeks to a month, and the last 2-4 weeks at 10/14.

Don't get me wrong, most people are pretty impressed with my bud, I grow 10 gram tops on 3-4 foot plants, but in my circle of friends, my herb is def. not the best.

I'm looking for input from the serious indoor growers that know what this could be from.

I think might over feed for the light you have on them... less is more..


We need more info... nutrients?? watering schedule?? how much have you fed them?

also let them go.. they should fatten up.. there should be a calyx for ever 2 hairs.. so exssesive hairs means you should see quite a few swelled calyx's if you wait long enough..

Drr said:

also let them go.. they should fatten up.. there should be a calyx for ever 2 hairs.. so exssesive hairs means you should see quite a few swelled calyx's if you wait long enough..

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Yeah, starting to think it was the strain. Had an accidental cross from seed and this one sort of took some of the characteristics of the worse of the two. But I prolly over -ferted them too.

I have no idea how to answer your question, but it made me wonder if plants that don't get much air circulation produce longer pistils to increase their chances of catching pollen, seeing as there is not much 'wind' to do the job. I have seen indoor grows with mediocre air exchange and there was a plethora of pistils. Then again, perhaps it was just the strain.

The buds should nug up anyway when the pistils start retracting. Good luck.

By the time your ready to harvest, let your buds sit in the dark for up to a week. This makes the plant think its getting close to winter and its going to die soon. In theory the plant pump's out everything she has, more resin is what im talking about. You could try it for a day or two and see if there is improvement.

TillthedayiDIE420 said:

By the time your ready to harvest, let your buds sit in the dark for up to a week. This makes the plant think its getting close to winter and its going to die soon. In theory the plant pump's out everything she has, more resin is what im talking about. You could try it for a day or two and see if there is improvement.

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Theory? Or have you tried this yourself?

I am starting to think it was the strain, because I have had some less hairy nice bud before, same set-up.

I might try to leave the plants in the dark for a little while like you said, prolly not a week though.

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I have no idea how to answer your question, but it made me wonder if plants that don't get much air circulation produce longer pistils to increase their chances of catching pollen, seeing as there is not much 'wind' to do the job. I have seen indoor grows with mediocre air exchange and there was a plethora of pistils. Then again, perhaps it was just the strain.

The buds should nug up anyway when the pistils start retracting. Good luck.

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I don't think so. I have too intake fans, and one exhaust for a 5x2 area. Any more wind in there and the plants would be blowing over.

Old thread but I see this often (in my grows) with flower under 950-1000 PAR of lighting (with more hairs than flower almost) and the opposite with flowers under 750-800 PAR with not that many pistils but FAT BUDS GALORE... go figure man, I don't get it.