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greatbranch
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Now, there's two of us...
greatbranch
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So, how long before the cabinet doubles in size? It's the natural progression of the disease.40 true watts per bulb for the 6 big warm white ones, 23 watts for the single cold white.
I just checked the underside of the girl and some buds are fully developed and they are huge! If they're any indication as to what I can expect for later, I'm gonna be a happy man
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Gquebed
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^^truth^^^So, how long before the cabinet doubles in size? It's the natural progression of the disease.
I started with one light. Then i got a second. Now i have four.... and electrical now set up for 8
Clink78
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I wish! But ze wife haz other planzSo, how long before the cabinet doubles in size? It's the natural progression of the disease.
Thankfully I have nature's huge cabinet with her super-bulb in the sky!
This summer I'll be cola-ing Blue Dream, Green Crack, Cole Train, G13 Haze and Subcool's Jillibean.
Humanrob
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Height question; first grow (indoor/closet), first time SCROG'ing:
The initial post in this thread with instructions (and I'm sorry to say I have not read all of the 247 subsequent pages), mentions the height of the screen in relation to the plant type (indica, hybrid, or sativa), but not in reference to the room/space needed for flowering.
The distance from the tops of my pots to 4" under my CFL's is approximately 32 inches -- so I consider that my usable plant space height-wise (total grow area height is about 56 inches).
How high should the screen be in that space?
My understanding was that a normal ("unscreened") plant could triple in size during flower, so after my plants were about 11" tall (with whatever training I did), I would go to flower. I'm wondering how much the screen holds back vertical growth, and if that "stunting" allows the plant size at the end of veg to be taller in relation to the additional space needed for flowering? Or is the dominant function of the screen to help force the plant wider, having little or no effect on finished height?
Put another way: With an un-screened plant in this space, I would need about 22" of vertical space to flower, do I still need that much if I SCROG?
The initial post in this thread with instructions (and I'm sorry to say I have not read all of the 247 subsequent pages), mentions the height of the screen in relation to the plant type (indica, hybrid, or sativa), but not in reference to the room/space needed for flowering.
The distance from the tops of my pots to 4" under my CFL's is approximately 32 inches -- so I consider that my usable plant space height-wise (total grow area height is about 56 inches).
How high should the screen be in that space?
My understanding was that a normal ("unscreened") plant could triple in size during flower, so after my plants were about 11" tall (with whatever training I did), I would go to flower. I'm wondering how much the screen holds back vertical growth, and if that "stunting" allows the plant size at the end of veg to be taller in relation to the additional space needed for flowering? Or is the dominant function of the screen to help force the plant wider, having little or no effect on finished height?
Put another way: With an un-screened plant in this space, I would need about 22" of vertical space to flower, do I still need that much if I SCROG?
Gquebed
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Well...if your pots are 14" and you put the screen 8-10 inches above that....add another 8" for what grows above the screen you are at 30-32" to the top of your canopy. Now you need space between that and the bottom of your light, plus room for the light before it hits the ceiling...
The tripling in size...is strain dependant. But that doesnt matter...the purpose of scrog is to grow laterally...not vertically...as the plant grows up through the screen you pull it back down through and train it laterally... see pics of mine a couple pages back
Humanrob
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Thanks for the feedback! It was difficult to describe simply, but I have 32" safely between the top of the pots and below the lights to work with. I'm wondering how much room to leave for the colas to shoot above the screen, that seems to be what I see happening in lots of the pics. I get that size of them is probably influenced by a lot of things, like the strain and how much time it spent in veg. I was just looking to see if there is a "rule of thumb", so to speak, in terms of proportions above and below the screen. The tripling reference is what someone told me to anticipate (in a normal non-scrog situation) because my hybrids are Sativa dominant.
I guess for the first one if I split the space I should be safe. I have a few weeks to work this out, they're still young.
Gquebed
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Sativa can stretch up to 3x but...probably not that much... not if it is crossed with indica. They do stretch a ton tho...
That can be limited by temps too tho... if you keep a lower temp (75ish) during lights on and higher lights off temp (say 68/9ish) that differentiall will reduce stretch significantly. But with scrog stretch is what you are looking for, as long as you train them latterally...lol
This way more bud sites are exposed to direct light and you increase yield that way....
Humanrob
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Thanks for that great information! At the moment I'm able to keep my room (i.e. closet) close to optimal temps when the lights are on, but currently have no way of regulating the temp when they are off. I'm sort of responding, adapting, and dialing it in as I go, so far they seem healthy and happy, I want to keep it that way.
hiitsbob
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thanks for the props. topped them at 2nd node. lst with paper clips. when that got to be to much smashed a screen 8 inches above pot. vegged for another week or 2. flipped to 12/12 trained for 3 more weeks. grown in super soil. top dressed a few times then water the rest of the time seems to be working out. the scrog screen made the hawaiian snow manageable otherwise it would have been a fight to tame it. can see how i twisted and intertwined all the shoots to keep an even canopy.
hiitsbob
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for the most part i knew. the title of my thread has liberty haze in there also. sadly i had to gift that plant. if there were 3 hybrids or indicas i would have had plenty of room. but that is what you get when you play. as of right now wished i vegged one more week but the hawaiian snow is still growing 1-2 inches a week. was hoping to finish about 15 inches above screen but am only gonna end up around 10-12 i think.
Clink78
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FUCK.
FUCKING FUCK.
FUCKING FUCK A DUCK FUCK.
I found a small male flower under the canopy. It was completely opened and covered with pollen. At first I thought it was a piece of lint or something but when I tried to remove it my fingers were covered with the yellow sperm.
At least it was underneath, but there's a fan blowing...
FUCKING FUCK.
FUCKING FUCK A DUCK FUCK.
I found a small male flower under the canopy. It was completely opened and covered with pollen. At first I thought it was a piece of lint or something but when I tried to remove it my fingers were covered with the yellow sperm.
At least it was underneath, but there's a fan blowing...
onemansmokeshow
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Sucks about the male but looks healthy and getting nice and frosty