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First Two Weeks of Flowering Jacks Cleaner 2. Lots of stretch from this strain, turning out to be a scrog of large colas.

Anyone see an advantage here?

Yeah thats two plants.

hows it woodsman-

Nice set up you got going on. Is that your normal temps or are you running a bit high
Is there an ideal grid size to use? what are the common sizes screen grids used?
Thanks

I'm attempting a "shotgun" SCROG in my tent - waited too long to flower my SOG, and now am necessitated to use the net to keep heights down (tallest were touching the bottom of my light).

Just put it on today, and I'll be lowering the net about 1-2" a day for the next week and tying the bud sites down then.

if i wanted to do a scrog, and am using a tote with aero. How would i change the water with out disrupting the set up. the tote does not have a drain.? i was thinking get another tote exactly the same and just put the empty on in the space tohold the plants up, while i change the h2o in the main tote.
I should have though ahead.

cheers for the info woodsman and co! This is my first attempt on scrog.Got 1 silver haze no9 and 1 bubblegum.Upload pics soon

Can I join the Scrog Club?

BiG PuFFer said:

if i wanted to do a scrog, and am using a tote with aero. How would i change the water with out disrupting the set up. the tote does not have a drain.? i was thinking get another tote exactly the same and just put the empty on in the space tohold the plants up, while i change the h2o in the main tote.
I should have though ahead.

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Hey puffer, you could put a pump in tub and pump it out, or if it is off the ground you can syphon and then fill the same way?

cazador said:

Hey puffer, you could put a pump in tub and pump it out, or if it is off the ground you can syphon and then fill the same way?

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That will work.. thanks for the help.
also do you think is possable to pull a pound using scrog and just 400 watts. I have 800w at disposal that runs out of 1 duel ballest, but was thinking of spliting it up and having a veg room and flower room so i can have a prepetual grow?

BiG PuFFer said:

That will work.. thanks for the help.
also do you think is possable to pull a pound using scrog and just 400 watts. I have 800w at disposal that runs out of 1 duel ballest, but was thinking of spliting it up and having a veg room and flower room so i can have a prepetual grow?

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Check out Integra21's thread; he's right around an lb under a 430 watt.

it is absolutely possible to pull a lb with scrog, kept the plants under the screen until roughly 90 percent was covered then let them grow where they wanted, about a two weeks after this I treated with phosoload to keep the canopy tight, level and bring the light in close I used a light rail to slowly move the light a short distance to bring it in closer without over heating.

in my unprofessional opion scrog is the best way to grow with the screen you can grow multiple strains effectivly using the screen to keep them all even and you have complete control of the plants footprint for better lighting distribution, especially if there are height restrictions

the only cons to this system is how labor intensive it can be everday bending the stems under the screen, keeping all the leaves and small buds trimmed away under the screen, and not having the ability to move the setup once it is going. There also tends to be more of a mold problem due to how tightly the buds will form sometimes the screen will hold two or three small colas right next to each other or even intertwined on each other.

on a side note i am getting ready to set up another scrog and instead of using a standard oscilating fan I am going to run 4" pvc drain pipes between the rows of plants with large holes in it and a 4" votex fan to push co2 enriched air up and evenly throuout the scrog, I am hoping this will help

b est regards

with co2 how often should you vent?

here are my girls at week 3

skunkyhead said:

here are my girls at week 3

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when is good time for screen.? I'm kinda thinking now.....And should i fimm?

Sorry for noob q's but this is my first scrog

skunkyhead said:

with co2 how often should you vent?

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My exhaust and intake fans come on for thirty seconds every day, as soon as the lights turn out.

Other then that, it's a sealed room - that's ideal.

1500PPMs constantly while the light is on.

cazador said:

hows it woodsman-

Nice set up you got going on. Is that your normal temps or are you running a bit high
Is there an ideal grid size to use? what are the common sizes screen grids used?
Thanks

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Thanks for the nice comments!

The photos where the temps are high, were taken in the AM. When the lights turn on in the morning we keep the tent closed up as to allow higher heat. This takes the moisture that condensates over night and turns it back into vapor that can then be exhaust. The exhaust is on a timer to run an hour after the lights turn on. The highest temps reach 90 above the Scrog and 80 below.


Yes there are ideal mesh sizes. This however, depends on several things. Examp: Strain (bud size), age/size of plants being scrogged, where its being placed, etc. Material used is also important. If you're planing to use the same screen several times, using something that does not rust is helpful. Un-painted metal tends to oxidize and corrode. Simply spraying your metal mesh with an anti rust primer or paint works well.

Typically use scrog sizes that meet the foot print size of hooded lights, or at max distance from bulb that can still recieve all lumens produced.
400w HPS = 3' X 3' Scrog at 12-20 from light.

One of the biggest complaints I hear about scrog other than the labor of love "required" is how un-movable they are. I often find my self having to giggle a bit. I had a guy that was running a areo/recirc DWC Hybrid that he designed him self, tell me that he didnt like scrog cause he could not move the plants....Out of all the people....Why is it so hard to figure out how to make individual scrogs for your individual plants, or make your entire scrog movable. For instance, I could build a tray at the base of the legs that hold the pots. Then attach wheels to them and there ya have it. Or Build a 2' X 2' scrog that attaches to the top of the final bucket/pot used....

is mine ready to bud?

Not sure if the Jacks will do a pound in the current setup, however. Scrog a pound club, doesnt sound like a bad idea. I think if a thread showed folks a bunch of closet growers pulling pounds out of there closet scrog, the eyes on scrog might not be so clouded. eh?

NICE JOB on the pics folks!

Bob, thanx! I sure hope you stick around buddy, we need more folks with history.

I would like to list some up comming strains that I plan to scrog in hopes of finding other folks running them as well. If any of you have scrogged these strains, let us know!

Chocolope, Pure Power Plant, Vortex, Third Demension, Pandoras Box X White Rhino (taboo) "home breed".