end of cycle techniques. e.g. flushing, leaching, boiling. ice drying .....etc

Budley Doright said:

That's a Bob Marley song BTW not hippie shit lol.

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Lol.

Budley Doright said:

Well we kind of have made a huge difference be it good or bad. When I first started growing all I could get my hands on were long finishing Mexican and south American bag seed, not conducive for my grow Zone lol, and the odd Eurasian stuff. Now we have hybrids, auto's, and femmed stuff. Like I said good and bad changes lol. Nothing wrong with progress as long as we don't lose site of the goals or do harm in the mean time IMO. As for this fued with Rid well that has been covered and is now getting a little overboard boardering stalkish lol ...... one love boys, one love lol.

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Yes very stalkerish

Anth88 said:

hi. this post is for your end of cycle techniques.
this could be anything that you do or dint do towards the the end of flower and to your plants. you might flush or you might leach instead. you may add cool air and ice or you might prefer to boil your root zone to start fermentation early. this post is for every1s routines, ideas and theory.

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Flushing is a muth. Grow in dirt it takes 5 to 7 days for crappy symptoms to arise whether overfeeding. Over water humid what not. Push the as high as you can until the first quarter inch of all leafs are Burnt from nutes. This means plant is using all it can and your not over feeding to kill leafs buds roots what not. Slowly increase. 1/⁴ to 1/³ to start and up ppms every feed until you notice what I described above. Last feeding before you chop plants flush container with 5x volume of any water pH don't matter. Leave in pots until you notice droop from under watering that's pretty severe. Then chop manicure and prepare for cure. Taste and smoothness comes from. Cure not flush!

MichiganMedGrower said:

I don't believe in karma or hippie love everyone crap. And I meant entertainment for me. He wronged me personally and my friend.

And he took action first. I only private messaged him my opinion. He made this public.

He is not very smart. And now I don't read rm3 this and rm3 that around here anymore so much. So what I did was worth it.

If he talked shit and had great weed instead of underdeveloped stressed out flowers making empty trichomes I would have showed more respect.

He is over as far as I am concerned. I don't like him farming for noobs. And I don't like that he Cherry pics articles for manipulation without even quoting the author. Then he accepts compliments on the info as if he discovered something himself.

No more without challenge.

And he has every right to post his opinion too. Too bad his is wrong. Lol.

I'm blocked from his and ttydicks journals. So they can hide in their room if they don't like to be proven wrong.

And they will just keep pretending they are authorities there as internet fame is more important to both of them than meds are.

Sorry Budly. I know it is out of hand. It is my choice. Until I can get to Colorado again to confront him I am holding on to a lot of anger about him.

Like you said. It will eventually work itself out. Just Karma isn't involved. Rat justice is.

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It's a shame that my methods and results have been duplicated by many

even more so that you can't seem to stop making threats

Bein butt hurt in public does seem to be your karma?

Funny how you say I grow mids when there are several growers that put my CTF in their top 10 best strains list

"blow some of those ctf's up and you wont need to search too much,she grows easy,yields medium to heavy,and clones like dandylions,buzz is a good blend of indie and sat,with nice flavor and bouquet ....sits high in my top ten fo sho.....js"

MichiganMedGrower said:

I'm blocked from his and ttydicks journals. So they can hide in their room if they don't like to be proven wrong.

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You should call him so he can respond to your nonsense
@ttystikk

RM3 said:

You should call him so he can respond to your nonsense
@ttystikk

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You don't even quote the writer of the review you post. We all know it's a friend invested in you.

Still need money from internet noobs? I still don't get why the man with the best weed in the world is broke. Oh yeah. CTF is Mids. Better weed on every corner where you live.

Wasn't a patient that needs meds review of your personal stash and me and my patients here all sampling your followers version enough to know it's weak and not medically viable at all?

The CTF I sampled here is the plant you put up on your seed sale page. It wasn't a good enough example?

The testers are all heavy daily users. Not a lightweight like you.

If it was as good as you said I would grow it for sure. I am trying other plants your people love. Unfortunately so far.

I gave plenty of you much better seeds. The ones I got back from the riddler collection have been problematic so far. Even your members favorites.

I was going to send you a pack at my expense but you became even more of an ass to me.

The breeder I use most has advanced MS. But because of his plants he is still able to tend to hundreds of plants every day.

The same medicine is healing some people close to me as you know. Lab tests and specialists have confirmed it. We don't take pharmaceuticals or trust doctors much anymore. But hospital lab tests do not lie.

You are a fraud who names his website after himself to feel important. And puts up donation pages for his own business agenda.

And what are you breeding with? 8 fully seeded plants? How can you even guarantee stability? You sure must have a lot of untested seeds handy. You're not selling those I hope. Lol.

And your "expert" growing friend you are calling for assistance is shut down for breaking rule number one. Don't talk to cops. Duh!

A rat and an idiot. You two make a wonderful pair.

All you had to do was respond to a patient (who did not have stellar feedback for you so you ignored him) and answer my private message challenging you rather than posting only one part of the conversation publically to make me look bad before you had to admit you are a complete fraud.

The funniest part of all this is you invited me in to your little fraternity. And I was making fun of you and your methods when you did.

You have discovered and invented nothing. You propogate myth only. Even your posts all scream permanent newbie.

Still haven't seen a whole garden or even a whole plant pic from you here.

Thanks for stopping in. Always a pleasure.

MichiganMedGrower said:

All you had to do was respond to a patient (who did not have stellar feedback for you so you ignored him) and answer my private message challenging you rather than posting only one part of the conversation publically to make me look bad before you had to admit you are a complete fraud.

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Dude only took 3 hits and said so in an email and you call me a light weight LMAO

RM3 said:

Dude only took 3 hits and said so in an email and you call me a light weight LMAO

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He took 3 hits per hour as you instructed. When he asked for more to be sure it wasn't him and maybe mood or tolerance you did not respond.

And I told you he was trying to be nice to you for giving him the free weed. But "heady" means weak and no medical effect.

He told you the weed was heady and the cob tasted delicious. And I am sure both of those things are true.

If you stop over nuting and flushing and get some good light on your plants maybe they will get people high at least. Maybe. I'm sure the plants you started with were fine.

JDMase said:

Do you think full nutrients till the end then? No autumn leaves just green till the chop? Im pretty sure ive seen people mention that no other industry flushes.. But saying that I don't know how I would be able to get over my nute lockouts or tox/def's any other way?

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Don't over feed to start! Solves a shit ton of problems....

churchhaze said:

When you boil the roots, the THC rises from the roots up into the crystals.... You will see the crystals rise up the stem slowly as soon as you start boiling... this indicates the highest level of THC.

THC comes from the roots!!

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What? You don't really? Nah, you don't...........He's kidding kiddies!

You need to just get over your butt hurt and open your mind, you've been growin for 3 years, hell I've been postin on this site for 9 LMAO

RM3 said:

You need to just get over your butt hurt and open your mind, you've been growin for 3 years, hell I've been postin on this site for 9 LMAO

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You sure want your post count to be your growing credibility.

So your saying you have been posting 3x as long as I have been growing and that means your weed is better than we think?

And as usual. By open mind. You mean support you and your myth.

Ahh. No.

Can we start calling it bolting instead of streching?
1. Bolting sounds cooler
2. It is in fact what they are doing

And though flushing does not happen in a natural situation leaching does.

Ice, snow, boil, rollin a fatty with wet popcorn and lettin it siit for a month.....

[QUOTE="ALong14U, post: 13541595, member: 968798"]Flushing is a muth. Grow in dirt it takes 5 to 7 days for crappy symptoms to arise whether overfeeding. Over water humid what not. Push the as high as you can until the first quarter inch of all leafs are Burnt from nutes. This means plant is using all it can and your not over feeding to kill leafs buds roots what not. Slowly increase. 1/⁴ to 1/³ to start and up ppms every feed until you notice what I described above. Last feeding before you chop plants flush container with 5x volume of any water pH don't matter. Leave in pots until you notice droop from under watering that's pretty severe. Then chop manicure and prepare for cure. Taste and smoothness comes from. Cure not flush![/QUOTE]



What's 5x the volume of water do?

KryptoBud said:

[QUOTE="ALong14U, post: 13541595, member: 968798"]Flushing is a muth. Grow in dirt it takes 5 to 7 days for crappy symptoms to arise whether overfeeding. Over water humid what not. Push the as high as you can until the first quarter inch of all leafs are Burnt from nutes. This means plant is using all it can and your not over feeding to kill leafs buds roots what not. Slowly increase. 1/⁴ to 1/³ to start and up ppms every feed until you notice what I described above. Last feeding before you chop plants flush container with 5x volume of any water pH don't matter. Leave in pots until you notice droop from under watering that's pretty severe. Then chop manicure and prepare for cure. Taste and smoothness comes from. Cure not flush!

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What's 5x the volume of water do?[/QUOTE]
I believe it's a flush lol. And let 1/4" tip of plant burn, why? Why not get to just before the burning stage?

Budley Doright said:

What's 5x the volume of water do?

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I believe it's a flush lol. And let 1/4" tip of plant burn, why? Why not get to just before the burning stage?[/QUOTE]
5x volume on the very last watering in dirt.
Most people in dirt flush for something crazy like 2 or 3 weeks.

I explained why I burn just the very tip. To me it means plant is using everything it can. Without burning it with nutes. When I say burn the tip I mean a 1/8 in or less of the tips turn a little yellow. Nothing like a real nute burn.

ALong14U said:

I believe it's a flush lol. And let 1/4" tip of plant burn, why? Why not get to just before the burning stage?

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5x volume on the very last watering in dirt.
Most people in dirt flush for something crazy like 2 or 3 weeks.

I explained why I burn just the very tip. To me it means plant is using everything it can. Without burning it with nutes. When I say burn the tip I mean a 1/8 in or less of the tips turn a little yellow. Nothing like a real nute burn.[/QUOTE]
Again this is just what works for me? To each his own.

And then take a dump in the pot to show the plant who is the boss.

KryptoBud said:

[QUOTE="ALong14U, post: 13541595, member: 968798"]Flushing is a muth. Grow in dirt it takes 5 to 7 days for crappy symptoms to arise whether overfeeding. Over water humid what not. Push the as high as you can until the first quarter inch of all leafs are Burnt from nutes. This means plant is using all it can and your not over feeding to kill leafs buds roots what not. Slowly increase. 1/⁴ to 1/³ to start and up ppms every feed until you notice what I described above. Last feeding before you chop plants flush container with 5x volume of any water pH don't matter. Leave in pots until you notice droop from under watering that's pretty severe. Then chop manicure and prepare for cure. Taste and smoothness comes from. Cure not flush!

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I recycled my soil. So to me it's getting the dirt cleaned of salts before the chop. That's the only reason I do the 5x.