Emergency harvest @ 46 days?!

dbizzo

Active Member
i just checked numerous buds on both plants(thc bomb) and its about 50/50 maybe even 60/40 amber-cloudy. alll hairs have turned amber as well.

I'm debating whether to chop or ride it out at least another week. This strain says 8 week flowering, but this early??

I'm growing under a well ventilated 400 hps glass-enclosed. Its about on average 8 inches away from plants. Any experienced growers w/ some advice?
 

LUDACRIS

New Member
i just checked numerous buds on both plants(thc bomb) and its about 50/50 maybe even 60/40 amber-cloudy. alll hairs have turned amber as well.

I'm debating whether to chop or ride it out at least another week. This strain says 8 week flowering, but this early??

I'm growing under a well ventilated 400 hps glass-enclosed. Its about on average 8 inches away from plants. Any experienced growers w/ some advice?

are the trichomes amber/cloudy ????????.
 

tahoe58

Well-Known Member
I am certainly not that experienced, but I have read that it is generally the case that it is easy to harvest too early. I remember a post of this nature only a couple of days back where it was said, if after the end of end of the time that you thought it might be done, then wait at least another week. In my case, I believe I chopped early, I'm gonna try and see if I can let her go longer this time round .... good luck.

post edit - FYI - my top44 - supposed to be 44days to maturity ...went almost 60? but that could just been my growing too...there are a lot of variables!
 

jcdws602

Well-Known Member
I would wait till the recommended time,I have one strain that looks done as well and I almost cut it last week,I'm glad I didnt cuz these last few days I have noticed a nice increase in trichome production.
 

LUDACRIS

New Member
I would wait till the recommended time,I have one strain that looks done as well and I almost cut it last week,I'm glad I didnt cuz these last few days I have noticed a nice increase in trichome production.
the recommended time period goes for nothing there are to many factors to consider.
and if the trichomes are turning amber then the thc is degrading.
clear/milky trichomes hold the most thc.
when trichomes turn amber thats the thc breaking down into other chemicals. When to harvest your trichomes
There are several schools of thought as to when it is the time to harvest. I shall attempt to explain how you can determine the harvesting time that will produce the most favorable psychoactive effect for your individual preferences.

We are most concerned with the capitate-stalked trichomes, as these contain the overwhelming majority of the psychoactive cannabinoids (THC, THCV, CBN). Different cannabinoids affect the high in a multifaceted manner.


THC:
delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol & delta-8-tetrahydrocannabinol - THC mimics the action of anandamide, a neurotransmitter produced naturally in the body, which binds with the cannabinoid receptors in the brain to produce the ?high? associated with marijuana. THC possesses high UV-B (280-315 nm) absorption properties.

THCV:
tetrahydrocannabivarin - prevalent in certain South African and Southeast Asian strains of cannabis. It is said to produce a ?clearer high? & seems to possess many of the therapeutic properties of THC.

CBD:
cannabidiol - previously believed to be psychoactive, or to contribute to the high by interacting with other cannabinoids, conversely the most recent research indicates that CBD has negligible effect on the high, it is however a strong anti-inflammatory, and may take the edge off some THC effects, such as anxiety. CBD as a non-psychoactive cannabinoid appears to be helpful for many medical conditions. CBD biosynthesizes into cannabinol (CBN) & tetrahydrocannabinol (THC).
CBN:
cannabinol - a degradation product of THC, produces a depressant effect, ?fuzzy? forehead.

CBC:
cannabichromene - non-psychoactive , a precursor to THC.

CBG:
cannabigerol - non-psychoactive, hemp strains often posses elevated levels of CBG while possessing only trace amounts of THC.

Heavy trichome production is not necessarily an indication of a potent plant. Some hemp strains have moderate layers of trichomes yet pack only a strong headache. In a drug strain, a thick layer of trichomes is a symbol that it may well posses an elevated potency level, but it is certainly not a guarantee.

What defines a cannabis drug strain is the plant's ability to produce THC & THCV.

A small 25x or stronger pocket microscope, which can be picked up inexpensively at an electronics store like Radio Shack, works well for getting a closer peek at your trichome development. We are examining are the capitate stalked glandular trichomes, the coloration of these gland heads can vary between strains and maturity. Most strains start with clear or slightly amber heads which gradually become cloudy or opaque when THC levels have peaked and are beginning to degrade. Regardless of the initial color of the secretory cavity, with careful observation you should be able to see a change in coloration as maturity levels off.

Some cultivators wait for about half of the secretory cavities to go opaque before harvesting, to ensure maximum THC levels in the finished product. Of course nothing tells the truth more than your own perception, so try samples at various stages to see what is best for you & the phenotype your are growing. While you may be increasing the total THC level in the bud by allowing half of the glands to go opaque, the bud will also have a larger percentage of THC breakdown products such as CBN, which is why some people choose to harvest earlier while most of the secretory cavities are still clear.Indica varieties will usually have a 10-15 day harvest window to work with. Sativas and Indica/Sativa hybrids often have an extended period to work with.

LUDACRIS.
 

tone702

Well-Known Member
Is it a little hot in there?? because Im doing Cfl grow.. and one of my 68watters was like two inches from my cola and my ventilation was turned off for a day and it made my trichomes and hairs closest to heat source start to turn darker on me.. just something to check on, could be other factors as well.
 

dbizzo

Active Member
I do realize thers many variables that speed up or slow a plants production. But the tris are prob 50/50 amber and cloudy.

By chance I was doing a maintenence flush w/ clearex yest and today. My RO is making fresh water now and im gonna run her til my ppms are down.

I was going to try throwing the plants into dark the final 36 but That'll be nxt grow, sour p and g13 starting tomorrow.
 

dbizzo

Active Member
Very useful info Luda, thx. Will put this thread in my files.

To the last post, I did get minot heat stress on one plant but the fattness of the bud was worth it. my remps are 85 F at highest near the tops. The hood is enclosed w/ glass w/ a 225 cfm fan blowing in it. not an issue.
 

jcdws602

Well-Known Member
the recommended time period goes for nothing there are to many factors to consider.
and if the trichomes are turning amber then the thc is degrading.
clear/milky trichomes hold the most thc.
when trichomes turn amber thats the thc breaking down into other chemicals. When to harvest your trichomes
There are several schools of thought as to when it is the time to harvest. I shall attempt to explain how you can determine the harvesting time that will produce the most favorable psychoactive effect for your individual preferences.

We are most concerned with the capitate-stalked trichomes, as these contain the overwhelming majority of the psychoactive cannabinoids (THC, THCV, CBN). Different cannabinoids affect the high in a multifaceted manner.


THC:
delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol & delta-8-tetrahydrocannabinol - THC mimics the action of anandamide, a neurotransmitter produced naturally in the body, which binds with the cannabinoid receptors in the brain to produce the ?high? associated with marijuana. THC possesses high UV-B (280-315 nm) absorption properties.

THCV:
tetrahydrocannabivarin - prevalent in certain South African and Southeast Asian strains of cannabis. It is said to produce a ?clearer high? & seems to possess many of the therapeutic properties of THC.

CBD:
cannabidiol - previously believed to be psychoactive, or to contribute to the high by interacting with other cannabinoids, conversely the most recent research indicates that CBD has negligible effect on the high, it is however a strong anti-inflammatory, and may take the edge off some THC effects, such as anxiety. CBD as a non-psychoactive cannabinoid appears to be helpful for many medical conditions. CBD biosynthesizes into cannabinol (CBN) & tetrahydrocannabinol (THC).
CBN:
cannabinol - a degradation product of THC, produces a depressant effect, ?fuzzy? forehead.

CBC:
cannabichromene - non-psychoactive , a precursor to THC.

CBG:
cannabigerol - non-psychoactive, hemp strains often posses elevated levels of CBG while possessing only trace amounts of THC.

Heavy trichome production is not necessarily an indication of a potent plant. Some hemp strains have moderate layers of trichomes yet pack only a strong headache. In a drug strain, a thick layer of trichomes is a symbol that it may well posses an elevated potency level, but it is certainly not a guarantee.

What defines a cannabis drug strain is the plant's ability to produce THC & THCV.

A small 25x or stronger pocket microscope, which can be picked up inexpensively at an electronics store like Radio Shack, works well for getting a closer peek at your trichome development. We are examining are the capitate stalked glandular trichomes, the coloration of these gland heads can vary between strains and maturity. Most strains start with clear or slightly amber heads which gradually become cloudy or opaque when THC levels have peaked and are beginning to degrade. Regardless of the initial color of the secretory cavity, with careful observation you should be able to see a change in coloration as maturity levels off.

Some cultivators wait for about half of the secretory cavities to go opaque before harvesting, to ensure maximum THC levels in the finished product. Of course nothing tells the truth more than your own perception, so try samples at various stages to see what is best for you & the phenotype your are growing. While you may be increasing the total THC level in the bud by allowing half of the glands to go opaque, the bud will also have a larger percentage of THC breakdown products such as CBN, which is why some people choose to harvest earlier while most of the secretory cavities are still clear.Indica varieties will usually have a 10-15 day harvest window to work with. Sativas and Indica/Sativa hybrids often have an extended period to work with.

LUDACRIS.
Damn dude lot of info but good info,but most case scenario people just get impatient thats why I recommended to be patient and gave an example,but if they look ready chop away
 

LUDACRIS

New Member
Very useful info Luda, thx. Will put this thread in my files.

To the last post, I did get minot heat stress on one plant but the fattness of the bud was worth it. my remps are 85 F at highest near the tops. The hood is enclosed w/ glass w/ a 225 cfm fan blowing in it. not an issue.
Damn dude lot of info but good info,but most case scenario people just get impatient thats why I recommended to be patient and gave an example,but if they look ready chop away

anytime boys.
just ask.
LUDACRIS.
 
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