Eliminating spider mites for good

Sounds like it something in your yard is vectoring in spider mites.

Lots of rose bushes around your property?
You might have to fight them outside your grow to eliminate them.

HookahsGarden said:

I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. I will call anyone that uses hot shot pest strips on cannabis for smoking or edibles a tard.

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didn't hurt my feelings, just showed that you don't understand dichlorvos.
I'm not that sensitive man, just don't like it when people aren't prepared, haven't done the research, prior to saying inflammatory things.
And having spider mites outside?
is cake.
combating spider mites inside with DM?
inside and out, are VERY, VERY different, when it comes to spider mites.
Outside I could use my farts to combat mites
but I eat a lot of fruit y comida de mexicano...

texasjack said:

is avid just as good as forbid?

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please research carefully before using miticides.
don't ask stoners on a cannabis grow site, do your diligence and research it before using it.
Just saying reading all the scientific information behind it, is much better than listening to growers.

I have studied dichlorvos. I never give advice on the boards if I don't know what I'm talking about.
I've actually used it in test grows to see if it had dicernable effect on pests and if I could taste it in the final product, because it surely had a strong scent in a sealed environment. I didn't taste it or get throat burn. But I didn't like the thought of it afterwards.

Now I'm on the side that doesn't believe in using it for meds.
And hey, just because you believe it's harmless , doesn't mean it is or isnt.
And even if I think you have a tard view on dichlorvos, doesn't mean we can't be friends and disagree.
It's all good.
Peace

HookahsGarden said:

I have studied dichlorvos. I never give advice on the boards if I don't know what I'm talking about.
I've actually used it in test grows to see if it had dicernable effect on pests and if I could taste it in the final product, because it surely had a strong scent in a sealed environment. I didn't taste it or get throat burn. But I didn't like the thought of it afterwards.

Now I'm on the side that doesn't believe in using it for meds.
And hey, just because you believe it's harmless , doesn't mean it is or isnt.
And even if I think you have a tard view on dichlorvos, doesn't mean we can't be friends and disagree.
It's all good.
Peace

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hah, sure man.
I'll take that.
It does have a strong scent in a sealed environment..
After studying the effects and half life, and it's degradeablilty, I made a decision.
And for me? Under the circumstances, and considering I don't even have to have it in the flower room for the last 50 days?
Compared to the alternative (which were miticides, that the mites gave a big ole to.
Miticides were NOT working...
I've battled mites for decades, typically a dip does the trick, but this last case of mites I got, they were like radioactive or something... Didn't slow em down at all.
dipped em, fogged em.
only thing I haven't tried is habanero/pepper spray...
but within 5 feet of the grow, I can find mites in the forest, they are everywhere.

honestly, a couple yrs ago, I was in your shoes...
looking down on the "tard" that would stoop to using a chemical....
'Rant over, This tard is out!

used it last year after battling mites with everything out there, I'm running a perpetual, scrapping everything is not an option, needless to say, this last summer was the first that I didn't have a single mite and I didn't use a single thing on my plants. sorry you feel that was retarded, but it was a win/win in my room. Not doing it and leaving mites and DE on my plants was more retarded.

chuck estevez said:

used it last year after battling mites with everything out there, I'm running a perpetual, scrapping everything is not an option, needless to say, this last summer was the first that I didn't have a single mite and I didn't use a single thing on my plants. sorry you feel that was retarded, but it was a win/win in my room. Not doing it and leaving mites and DE on my plants was more retarded.

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words from my mouth.
the mites were laughing at everything I was doing...
Annnnd it's not my first barbeque...
Me and mites go waaay back

chuck estevez said:

used it last year after battling mites with everything out there, I'm running a perpetual, scrapping everything is not an option, needless to say, this last summer was the first that I didn't have a single mite and I didn't use a single thing on my plants. sorry you feel that was retarded, but it was a win/win in my room. Not doing it and leaving mites and DE on my plants was more retarded.

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You rinse the de off. Lol. Duh.

I bet diatomacious earth does work! If you sprinkle every time the fan sways across the foliage for a month straight LOL. DE is yhe best I've found for fungus gnats though and mighty wash being the best i found for mites BUT you have to catch the whole entire plant the first time! Every fucking trichome! Once you kill off a good majority by contact you may bust out the neem/avid ect.

Your not checking you clones.

Mites need plants to survive.

I haven't had a MIT in years. I never take clones, that where cuts from out side. I never take a clone with out looking under it for bugs. And I mean good. Even when a I get clones from a good dispenser. I still spay them down.
I clone my own cuts, which I know are pest free. I pop my own seeds most of the time now too.

Never harvest outdoor plants near your indoor grow. Got mites like that before.

If you work outdoors by plants. Don't go in the grow room, till you Chang out of your old cloths. And don't leave them in there

How you use the hotshot strip makes the difference. Late in flower's probably not a very good idea. I would give it a few weeks to air the plants out if you had to. I think its the same stuff they put in a flea collar, poor dogie. My flowers are cut and I'm doing clean up. I'm going to clean everything.

I never wear the shoes I was wearing outdoors, or working in the yard specifically, into my home. Maybe those suckers cld jump onto one of my cats, but mites have never been a problem for me. I think I have a ton of beneficial spiders that zap em if the appear. One reason I don't like pest strips is it would kill off my beneficial critters, spiders and such.

texasjack said:

is avid just as good as forbid?

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Avid is not as effective as Forbid....Forbid is one of Bayers latest products, works differently and remains in the leaves, effectively killing any munchers for another 45 days or so. It also passes from the top of leaves to the bottom, so you don't have to kill yourself trying to get every part of the plant. It also kills eggs, adults, and all stages in just a few days after injestion. There are other benefits too, just don't feel like listing them all. Use the lower strength 1/8 teaspoon per gallon, not the upper limits so the plants don't show any effect after spraying.

SSHZ said:

Avid is not as effective as Forbid....Forbid is one of Bayers latest products, works differently and remains in the leaves, effectively killing any munchers for another 45 days or so. It also passes from the top of leaves to the bottom, so you don't have to kill yourself trying to get every part of the plant. It also kills eggs, adults, and all stages in just a few days after injestion. There are other benefits too, just don't feel like listing them all. Use the lower strength 1/8 teaspoon per gallon, not the upper limits so the plants don't show any effect after spraying.

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For $209 it better be good.

I found a split of avid, 1 oz for $20 so I went with it. I'll do avid and the neem till I'm sure they're gone. Then I'll start flower.

texasjack said:

I found a split of avid, 1 oz for $20 so I went with it. I'll do avid and the neem till I'm sure they're gone. Then I'll start flower.

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I thought about buying individual bottles but I worry somebody would water it down. I heard about people doing that, so I would feel better having it in the original packaging. I have a bottle of questionable floramite purchased from ebay or amazon.

Dr.Pecker said:

I thought about buying individual bottles but I worry somebody would water it down. I heard about people doing that, so I would feel better having it in the original packaging. I have a bottle of questionable floramite purchased from ebay or amazon.

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didn't even think of that

Yes, I too bought a small oz bottle for around $20 on eBay. It will last 3-5 applications, which is plenty for get control of the problem. When you look to see who you are buying from, make sure he has a lot of purchases by people- not just a few.

I just hit my plants with Forbid around 10 days in flowering, at a low dose and kept the lights at 50 percent power for 2 days- they look great, no ill effects.

why dim the lights?