DWC Root Slime Cure aka How to Breed Beneficial Microbes

Man, you guys are really getting out there on the Tea argument.
Tea doesn't work? WTF?
"My roots are growing so fast, the brown can't keep up with it"
Umm. Brown roots don't mean Root Rot, or Slime.
If your roots are sloughing off, then THAT'S root rot. If you have ROT, you WON'T grow new roots.
Who the hell doesn't clean, and sterilize their system between grows?
"I keep getting root rot so the tea doesn't work" WTF?
If you keep getting Root Rot, figure out WHY you are getting root rot, if it even IS root rot.
Dark roots can be VERY healthy roots. When you are running compost in your teas, your roots WILL turn dark.
If you are running things like Floralicious+ in your teas your roots will turn dark.
If you're running a lot of humic/fulvics, your roots can turn dark.
OH MY GOD! MY ROOTS AREN'T SHOCK WHITE! WHAT EVER WILL I DO?

Yes, that was a half pound AUTOFLOWERING plant.

If they are not sloughing off and they are growing they are healthy.
If the tips are white, they are healthy OR AT LEAST on the mend.
I've seen it before after a pythium infection where the new growth tips of roots would grow healthy and pearly white right away while the trunk root stayed looking iffy for a few days.
If all of your environmental factors were correct, you wouldn't have to worry about root rot in the first place.
Hiesenberg Tea isn't an absolute cure for shitty environments, and growing practices.
ALTHOUGH, I have run reservoir temperatures in the 80's and still pulled off crops which would NEVER have been possible without the TEA.

If your Res temp is good, You have plenty of Disolved Oxygen, and your running Hiesenberg Tea...
YOU WILL NOT GET ROOT ROT OR SLIME.

IF YOU DO HAVE ROOT ROT OR SLIME, YOU FIX YOUR RES TEMPS, HAVE PLENTY OF OXYGEN, AND RUN HIESENBERG TEA THERE IS NOTHING THAT WILL WORK BETTER TO CURE IT... Nothing.

This is NOT my opinion. This shit has been proven OVER and OVER.

Zone, bleach, h202, Enzyme Products and all that other shit FEEDS slime.

So... Tell me again how you beat cyanobacteria (The Slime) with DM Zone, bleach, h202 or enzymes....... You NEVER DID. You thought you did, then it came back. You spent hundreds of dollars on products going back, and forth fighting the shit before you plants finally died or it showed right back up in your next grow.

Anyone claiming Hiesenberg Tea doesn't work is Either-
1-Not making it right
2-Not using it right (you CAN use too much tea. Too much will leave a biofilm that other shit can live off Hence the importance of #5
3-Using other things along with it (Zone, H2O2, Enzymes, Carbs products)
4-Neglecting to keep their reservoir temperatures in check.
5-Not cleaning out their system periodically (At LEAST every other week if you have active pathogens)
6-Not sterilizing and cleaning their system between runs
7-Not running enough oxygen into their solution

Root Rot is a SYMPTOM that something is wrong with your growing practices.
Root Rot doesn't happen to perfectly dialed in system with Active Beneficials running in it.

I run Tea now from Start To Finish.
You can use all the Roots Excelurator and hormones you want, but proper use of Tea will give you better roots any day PERIOD.
Hormones won't keep you from getting slime, or Root Rot either.

Anyone knocking Hiesenberg Tea looses ALL credibility in my eyes and the eyes of those who know how to grow and actually use it.

It's like standing on a soap box trying to convince an audience of Meteorologists that the sky is green. People who don't know better might listen to you for a while until someone more educated comes along. The rest of the Meteorologists are looking at you like WTF?

That's my .02

Peace.
Tav

fix your any root issues with cleaning and running R 7. Guaranteed buddy sells it and all info @clonebucket.com. FYI

Scroga said:

With the microbe population there in flower there's no chance of anything else moving in, it also allows you to throw various organic products in the mix without fear... but I find it better cheaper safer to do it threw the tea bucket, also the benefit of molasses
I believe it expresses better terp oil production, lessens the need for cal mag ... p.s. I also sprinkle a lil pondzyme occasionally... another cost effective product... in flower roots don't always look pearly white using the organic semi organic method but you just have to trust in your micro herd

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Exactly X10

Well said... though as far as the r.e. is concerned it works great for me as a safe guard... I lost a perpetual to a bad tea brew last year...with this in place first ... I feel safer... I've seen it work when nothing else would...

Taviddude said:

Man, you guys are really getting out there on the Tea argument.
Tea doesn't work? WTF?
"My roots are growing so fast, the brown can't keep up with it"
Umm. Brown roots don't mean Root Rot, or Slime.
If your roots are sloughing off, then THAT'S root rot. If you have ROT, you WON'T grow new roots.
Who the hell doesn't clean, and sterilize their system between grows?
"I keep getting root rot so the tea doesn't work" WTF?
If you keep getting Root Rot, figure out WHY you are getting root rot, if it even IS root rot.
Dark roots can be VERY healthy roots. When you are running compost in your teas, your roots WILL turn dark.
If you are running things like Floralicious+ in your teas your roots will turn dark.
If you're running a lot of humic/fulvics, your roots can turn dark.
If they are not sloughing off and they are growing they are healthy.
If the tips are white, they are healthy.
If all of your environmental factors were correct, you wouldn't have to worry about root rot in the first place.
Hiesenberg Tea isn't an absolute cure for shitty environments, and growing practices.

If your Res temp is good, You have plenty of Disolved Oxygen, and your running Hiesenberg Tea...
YOU WILL NOT GET ROOT ROT OR SLIME.

IF YOU DO HAVE ROOT ROT OR SLIME, YOU GET YOUR RES TEMPS GOOD, HAVE PLENTY OF OXYGEN, AND RUN HIESENBERG TEA THERE IS NOTHING THAT WILL WORK BETTER TO CURE IT.

This is NOT my opinion. This shit has been proven OVER and OVER.

Zone, bleach, h202, Enzyme Products and all that other shit FEEDS slime.

So... Tell me again how you beat cyanobacteria (The Slime) with DM Zone, bleach, h202 or enzymes....... You NEVER DID. You thought you did, then it came back.

Anyone claiming Hiesenberg Tea doesn't work is Either-
1-Not making it right
2-Not using it right (you CAN use too much tea. Too much will leave a biofilm that other shit can live off Hence the importance of #5
3-Using other things along with it (Zone, H2O2, Enzymes, Carbs products)
4-Neglecting to keep their reservoir temperatures in check.
5-Not cleaning out their system periodically (At LEAST every other week if you have active pathogens)
6-Not sterilizing and cleaning their system between runs
7-Not running enough oxygen into their solution

Root Rot is a SYMPTOM that something is wrong with your growing practices.
Root Rot doesn't happen to perfectly dialed in system with Active Beneficials running in it.

I run Tea now from Start To Finish.
You can use all the Roots Excelurator and hormones you want, but proper use of Tea will give you better roots any day PERIOD.
Hormones won't keep you from getting slime, or Root Rot either.

Anyone knocking Hiesenberg Tea looses ALL credibility in my eyes and the eyes of those who know how to grow and actually use it.

It's like standing on a soap box trying to convince an audience of Meteorologists that the sky is green. People who don't know better might listen to you for a while until someone more educated comes along. The rest of the Meteorologists are looking at you like WTF?

That's my .02

Peace.
Tav

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if you're using T and you think it's getting rid of your problem it's because you never had Pythium root rot in the first place ..... WTF ...and yes when u have root rot you can still get root growth... WTF root rot is systemic lol .... so the problem can be in the plants themselves also the title says a cure for root rot which is not true the microbe out compete the roots rot for food but in the end it never gets rid of it or cures it... too bad I have to bust your bubble.... I run Floralicious plus all the time and it never turns my roots Brown so you're wrong about that also. ..humic and fulvic acid will not turn your roots Brown either I use both of those....and all of the environment is in check and it always has been... you need to do better research on Pythium root rot before you open your fat mouth...everything you ever learned about it is obviously of a form and not from university website....
(If your Res temp is good, You have plenty of Disolved Oxygen, and your running Hiesenberg Tea...
YOU WILL NOT GET ROOT ROT OR SLIME.) NOT TRUE..... I know what works better then the T chlorine....there's a reason why they do not use the T in commercial greenhouse and that is because it does not work that is why they use chlorine ...if the T is working then you never had Pythium root rot actually I'm wrong there are a few different strains of root rot... some are easier to get rid of than others (so the T can definitely work better on some other strains) .. but it only suppresses it ...it does not get rid off a or cure it ...there are a lot of bio fungicides on the market that are made to suppress roots rot specifically but they do not cure it or destroy it... WTF h2o2 and zone feeds root rot that is completely false AND THATS A FACT......but enzymes do feed it because they produce sugar and the bacteria love sugar ....I never said I defeated it with any of those products I have just now started using them and they do work because I was successful with it in my cloner and there is a hole lot of science behind them....and those products do not just suppress it they destroy it....unlike your wannabe T .....and then you contradict yourself by saying you need to clean your system with bleach but then you say the bleach feeds the bacteria you are a moron....and technically you can not overdo beneficial bacteria the only reason people would think that they overdid it is probably because they added the T when it still had some sugars left in it....and root rot is not always a symptom of something being wrong in your Grow it could be your environment lots of molds and fungus floating in the air and so forth or something contaminated coming into your Grow so you were wrong again.....and no hormones will not keep you from getting root rot or slime everybody knows that...the T will keep the slime away I have had success with that part but the T does not stop the dying Brown roots ...the T does not cure anything you moron so you lose all credibility with not knowing anything besides what you heard on a forum....

you are full of misinformation and wrong about almost everything you have said ..but I have been seeing people like you repeating the same stuff they here from somewhere else for years without doing their own research ...I don't deny that the T does help but it definitely does not cure anything it only suppresses AND THATS IT ....so go cry your sob story to some weak minded little kids while the grown ups do some talking ...you have said some of the stupidest stuff I've heard in a weak ...and I hear a lot of stupid stuff and you are officially at the top

and the people that seem two want to agree with him are obviously not reading his full statement or you have no idea what you are talking about ..

Typical butthurt response.
Yes, the products DO feed the slime as they either add DO (which makes slime explode), or break down the organic matter in the reservoir into compounds that the slime can feed on. Make Sense? Do a little research.
Did you really thing that I was implying that cyanobacteria consumes as food these products?
No, you know better than that, but you're grasping at straws.
You're the type that just hates to be wrong. Even when you are WRONG.

Show me where YOU beat the slime with something OTHER than bennies...
I'll wait...

Oh shit, you don't have any before and after pictures? No grow journals documenting your success for failure with ANY product?
I do. They're scattered all over the internet at a half dozen forums.

Chloramine/Chlorine, whatever. Show me where YOU have used these to beat the slime, lol.
Thought so.

Evil Bud said:

fix your any root issues with cleaning and running R 7. Guaranteed buddy sells it and all info @clonebucket.com. FYI

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I have seen that stuff before but I've never tried it out...maybe someday I will order it...but I did read somewhere else where it was not working for some people

Bottle up that Chlorine and sell it. You should be rich by now.
Not that much of a go getter, eh?

Peace out.
I'm gonna go check on my root rot free 6000 watt grow room.
Maybe go for a motorcycle ride, lol.

Have fun with this misinformed individual Guys.

Peace.
Tav

Taviddude said:

Man, you guys are really getting out there on the Tea argument.
Tea doesn't work? WTF?
"My roots are growing so fast, the brown can't keep up with it"
Umm. Brown roots don't mean Root Rot, or Slime.
If your roots are sloughing off, then THAT'S root rot. If you have ROT, you WON'T grow new roots.
Who the hell doesn't clean, and sterilize their system between grows?
"I keep getting root rot so the tea doesn't work" WTF?
If you keep getting Root Rot, figure out WHY you are getting root rot, if it even IS root rot.
Dark roots can be VERY healthy roots. When you are running compost in your teas, your roots WILL turn dark.
If you are running things like Floralicious+ in your teas your roots will turn dark.
If you're running a lot of humic/fulvics, your roots can turn dark.
OH MY GOD! MY ROOTS AREN'T SHOCK WHITE! WHAT EVER WILL I DO?

Yes, that was a half pound AUTOFLOWERING plant.

If they are not sloughing off and they are growing they are healthy.
If the tips are white, they are healthy OR AT LEAST on the mend.
I've seen it before after a pythium infection where the new growth tips of roots would grow healthy and pearly white right away while the trunk root stayed looking iffy for a few days.
If all of your environmental factors were correct, you wouldn't have to worry about root rot in the first place.
Hiesenberg Tea isn't an absolute cure for shitty environments, and growing practices.
ALTHOUGH, I have run reservoir temperatures in the 80's and still pulled off crops which would NEVER have been possible without the TEA.

If your Res temp is good, You have plenty of Disolved Oxygen, and your running Hiesenberg Tea...
YOU WILL NOT GET ROOT ROT OR SLIME.

IF YOU DO HAVE ROOT ROT OR SLIME, YOU FIX YOUR RES TEMPS, HAVE PLENTY OF OXYGEN, AND RUN HIESENBERG TEA THERE IS NOTHING THAT WILL WORK BETTER TO CURE IT... Nothing.

This is NOT my opinion. This shit has been proven OVER and OVER.

Zone, bleach, h202, Enzyme Products and all that other shit FEEDS slime.

So... Tell me again how you beat cyanobacteria (The Slime) with DM Zone, bleach, h202 or enzymes....... You NEVER DID. You thought you did, then it came back. You spent hundreds of dollars on products going back, and forth fighting the shit before you plants finally died or it showed right back up in your next grow.

Anyone claiming Hiesenberg Tea doesn't work is Either-
1-Not making it right
2-Not using it right (you CAN use too much tea. Too much will leave a biofilm that other shit can live off Hence the importance of #5
3-Using other things along with it (Zone, H2O2, Enzymes, Carbs products)
4-Neglecting to keep their reservoir temperatures in check.
5-Not cleaning out their system periodically (At LEAST every other week if you have active pathogens)
6-Not sterilizing and cleaning their system between runs
7-Not running enough oxygen into their solution

Root Rot is a SYMPTOM that something is wrong with your growing practices.
Root Rot doesn't happen to perfectly dialed in system with Active Beneficials running in it.

I run Tea now from Start To Finish.
You can use all the Roots Excelurator and hormones you want, but proper use of Tea will give you better roots any day PERIOD.
Hormones won't keep you from getting slime, or Root Rot either.

Anyone knocking Hiesenberg Tea looses ALL credibility in my eyes and the eyes of those who know how to grow and actually use it.

It's like standing on a soap box trying to convince an audience of Meteorologists that the sky is green. People who don't know better might listen to you for a while until someone more educated comes along. The rest of the Meteorologists are looking at you like WTF?

That's my .02

Peace.
Tav

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thanks for the proof with your little picture you still have roots rot problems that's why your buds are so teenyand your roots look like hell....lol that is one in embarrassing picture ...I have been growing in the DWC for a long time and I never had my roots look like that until I contracted roots rot within the last month ...and you're trying to give people advice lol what a joke

Those were ebb and flow buckets, lol.
Those roots are healthy. Showcase your ignorance some more.
Ahh, the smell of fresh roots. Wait, doesn't root rot stink?
Just as I said earlier. Dark roots can be healthy roots.
Root rot will cause roots to slough, and stink.
That was also a half pound of DRY weed from an AUTOFLOWERING plant in UNDER 90 days From Seed.
Nice try though, lol.

Face it, you suck.

Taviddude said:

Typical butthurt response.
Yes, the products DO feed the slime as they either add DO (which makes slime explode), or break down the organic matter in the reservoir into compounds that the slime can feed on. Make Sense? Do a little research.
Did you really thing that I was implying that cyanobacteria consumes as food these products?
No, you know better than that, but you're grasping at straws.
You're the type that just hates to be wrong. Even when you are WRONG.

Show me where YOU beat the slime with something OTHER than bennies...
I'll wait...

Oh shit, you don't have any before and after pictures? No grow journals documenting your success for failure with ANY product?
I do. They're scattered all over the internet at a half dozen forums.

Chloramine/Chlorine, whatever. Show me where YOU have used these to beat the slime, lol.
Thought so.

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its common sense just go on the internet and skip all the forms and find some real research that'll teach you something lol

Taviddude said:

Typical butthurt response.
Yes, the products DO feed the slime as they either add DO (which makes slime explode), or break down the organic matter in the reservoir into compounds that the slime can feed on. Make Sense? Do a little research.
Did you really thing that I was implying that cyanobacteria consumes as food these products?
No, you know better than that, but you're grasping at straws.
You're the type that just hates to be wrong. Even when you are WRONG.

Show me where YOU beat the slime with something OTHER than bennies...
I'll wait...

Oh shit, you don't have any before and after pictures? No grow journals documenting your success for failure with ANY product?
I do. They're scattered all over the internet at a half dozen forums.

Chloramine/Chlorine, whatever. Show me where YOU have used these to beat the slime, lol.
Thought so.

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man you are full of disinformation aren't you...if dissolved oxygen was bad then why would you need so many air stones lol oxygen is one of the most important things that a plant needs you moron lol. you are so easy to punk it's ridiculous lol ....its funny you are telling me too to research when you don't even know the purpos of dissolved oxygen in the water....lololololololololol. low dissolved oxygen is 1 of the reasons you can run into pathogens in the water... low dissolved oxygen is the environment that pathogens like not High dissolved oxygen you moron ..lol...and yes that is exactly what you meant you try to say that it feeds the pathogens in the water and now you're trying to change what you sad because you got caught and you know you were wrong....

Taviddude said:

Those were ebb and flow buckets, lol.
Those roots are healthy. Showcase your ignorance some more.
Ahh, the smell of fresh roots. Wait, doesn't root rot stink?
Just as I said earlier. Dark roots can be healthy roots.
Root rot will cause roots to slough, and stink.
That was also a half pound of DRY weed from an AUTOFLOWERING plant in UNDER 90 days From Seed.
Nice try though, lol.

Face it, you suck.

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those roots are so dead it's ridiculous ....your roots should never look like that at most they will be a light cream color not dark as shit I've grown a half pounds on a tree that only had three branches

Taviddude said:

Those were ebb and flow buckets, lol.
Those roots are healthy. Showcase your ignorance some more.
Ahh, the smell of fresh roots. Wait, doesn't root rot stink?
Just as I said earlier. Dark roots can be healthy roots.
Root rot will cause roots to slough, and stink.
That was also a half pound of DRY weed from an AUTOFLOWERING plant in UNDER 90 days From Seed.
Nice try though, lol.

Face it, you suck.

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why would you be growing an autoflower that takes 90 days that's completely stupid...you can just grow from clone and get this same results lol

Taviddude said:

Those were ebb and flow buckets, lol.
Those roots are healthy. Showcase your ignorance some more.
Ahh, the smell of fresh roots. Wait, doesn't root rot stink?
Just as I said earlier. Dark roots can be healthy roots.
Root rot will cause roots to slough, and stink.
That was also a half pound of DRY weed from an AUTOFLOWERING plant in UNDER 90 days From Seed.
Nice try though, lol.

Face it, you suck.

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also who cares if things are ebb and flow bucket lol nobody asked

BDOGKush said:

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John Luke Picard of the USS Enterprise lol

clownbow said:

why would you be growing an autoflower that takes 90 days that's completely stupid...you can just grow from clone and get this same results lol

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Because people act like it can't be done.
People like you like to talk shit about auto's and I like to shut them up.
I grow photo's too. Got some Blue Kush, Caramel Ice, Shark Shock CBD, and Critical+ 2.0 buring right now.


I'll agree with you that the bennies only overpower the pathogen, but the benefits of bennies are numerous.
Who cares if the bennies only mask it if it makes it go away?
Chlorine doesn't give you any of the benefits that Tea does.

Like I said, everyone should be sterilizing their system between grows anyways.
Most of the people coming to this thread are looking for ways to save their grow.
Chlorine (although a macro nutrient) stresses plants and root at the concentration that you would use to fight pathogens, unlike the Tea.
Use too much chlorine? Your plants cough dust.
Even if it worked as good as the tea (which it doesn't) it's still hard on the plant when it's already compromised, and can kill your plants.

Show me some 6-8 ounce pound plants from clones in under 90 days from cut to weed.
2 weeks rooting
3 weeks veg
8 weeks flower
Show me please.

Anyways, I'm done enabling you to troll this awesome topic further.

You can have the last word.

Peace.
Tav

clownbow said:

John Luke Picard of the USS Enterprise lol

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No just a facepalm because of your posts. Its not funny when if I have to explain it, damnit.

Taviddude said:

Because people act like it can't be done.
People like you like to talk shit about auto's and I like to shut them up.
I grow photo's too. Got some Blue Kush, Caramel Ice, Shark Shock CBD, and Critical+ 2.0 buring right now.


I'll agree with you that the bennies only overpower the pathogen, but the benefits of bennies are numerous.
Who cares if the bennies only mask it if it makes it go away?
Chlorine doesn't give you any of the benefits that Tea does.

Like I said, everyone should be sterilizing their system between grows anyways.
Most of the people coming to this thread are looking for ways to save their grow.
Chlorine (although a macro nutrient) stresses plants and root at the concentration that you would use to fight pathogens, unlike the Tea.
Use too much chlorine? Your plants cough dust.
Even if it worked as good as the tea (which it doesn't) it's still hard on the plant when it's already compromised, and can kill your plants.

Show me some 6-8 ounce pound plants from clones in under 90 days from cut to weed.
2 weeks rooting
3 weeks veg
8 weeks flower
Show me please.

Anyways, I'm done enabling you to troll this awesome topic further.

You can have the last word.

Peace.
Tav

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Auto flowers are known to produce weak THC