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Droopy leaves? What to do

Discussion in 'Newbie Central' started by Fluken1, Nov 28, 2017.

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    Roger A. Shrubber

    Roger A. Shrubber Well-Known Member

    clay pots aren't evil....they're just heavy, clunky, and they retain water a lot longer than plastic or cloth pots, so you can't water them as often....so you can't feed them as often, and that equals slower growth.
     
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    Fluken1

    Fluken1 Member

    So what would you suggest i buy for the situation that im in? With what im working with?
     
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    andy s

    andy s Well-Known Member

    that temp range is fine just not any higher than tht lol. good airflow and ventilation is key. if thats all you have to work with youll still get results just dont water as often your plant and dirt will let you know when its time to water lol
     
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    Fluken1

    Fluken1 Member

    I can try to stuff a bigger fan up in there if i have to. I can also order those smart pot bags too. Its not a big deal. What size though? The pots they are in are 8" right now. I can go a lil bit bigger than that if i have to. They arent in stock though. Im definitely no expert obviously at this at all. I do definitely appreciate all the help everyone has given me.
     
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    andy s

    andy s Well-Known Member

    you dont need anything bigger than a 3 gallon if your plants are gonna be fairly decent size, if they gonna be med to small plants id get 1 or 2 gallon pots
     
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    Roger A. Shrubber

    Roger A. Shrubber Well-Known Member

    i get most of my pots at the local garden centers, if you look around while your walking around, you can usually spot piles of used nursery pots. if you take a big handful up to the counter, they'll usually sell them pretty cheap, like 4 for a dollar cheap.
    i use ten gallon totes, like this
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    hose up, holds water, hose down to drain.
    i know you don't have room for these, but i'm just trying to illustrate that you can use almost anything light and water tight as a pot.
     
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    Jestone

    Jestone Member

    Too much water, or not watered often enough, or becoming root bound, I think.
     
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    andy s

    andy s Well-Known Member

    def not a root bound issue, not watered enough shows similar signs but its being overwatered and it cant breathe
     
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    #woke

    #woke Member

    Something you wrote hit home also too low of a humidity Will make a leaf transpire and can create powdery mildew .Whenit's too dry so the leaf doesn't get crispy itpushes moisture to the leaf from the rootsystem. Also calcium in magnesium areimmobile Nutrients in lock out in low relativehumidity. Since I started using amino acidandnon nitrate calcium magnesium my plants don'tget powdery mildew.Also using a silica fromraw or a potassium silicate Will help strengthen the cell wall and retain water in the leaf without transpiration . To low is as bad as high
     
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    #woke

    #woke Member

    Yes 40 to 60% is the ideal range maybe a little higher in the Depending on where your strains come from But when humidity gets under 40% the stoma stops opening and closing which shuts down the breathing of the plant which stalls out the growth. Too high of a humidity does the exact same thing the stoma stops opening and closing and once that happens you began to have problems unless your strains are specific from tropical area also you've just gotten lucky to not have problems with the low humidity. This is a quote from maximum yield.

    (Stomata are made up of two cells, known as guard cells, and an opening known as a stoma. This arrangement, when viewed through a microscope, resembles a small mouth. The guard cells, or what can be viewed as “lips,” respond directly to environmental factors, and can swell to close off the stoma, or deflate to open it. This opening and closing regulates the intake or release of carbon dioxide, oxygen, and water vapor.

    When the guard cells are deflated, carbon dioxide and oxygen enter the plant through the stoma. Carbon dioxide and water are converted into sugars for nutrients, and oxygen is used for respiration. In addition, oxygen created from photosynthesis is released through these pores. Although plants benefit greatly from this process, it is not without risk. When the guard cells deflate and the stoma is open, the plant becomes vulnerable to water loss. This is especially true in hot, dry environments where a plant can experience significant water loss through the stomata.)

    This definition was written in the context of Botany
     
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    #woke

    #woke Member

    Im with whitebb2727 i agree with everything he said even though we all have our own methodes. A cool room 70-74° humidity 40-60 keeps trichomes nice happy. Whats comfortable to you is comfortable to plants. Also check some basic charts off google like VPD vapor pressure deficit chart tells you perfect humidity to temp. Just try to get close. Its hard to always be in perfect range. Also consider whether outside manipulates weather inside of our rooms when we're controlling through window unit ac or split unit ac's whether we live in the desert or whether it rained the night before all these will change the conditions of our Room temporarily. Even if it rains during one of your dry days it could set back your dry times or the need to drop the dehumidifiers % down.
     
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    andy s

    andy s Well-Known Member

    idk how i was able to grow in less than that then, must have been a couple years of some good luck. there is always ideal ranges and a rule of thumb with growin marijuana but it is such a versatile plant it can adjust to so many climates its unreal. so to say it has to have this or that just doesnt apply to me in my garden i guess.
     
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    #woke

    #woke Member

     
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    #woke

    #woke Member

    I'm sorry if i came off like a jerk. And i think you are being sarcastic its hard to tell. But you are right. Versatile plant and adjusting is very true. I live in California and for years dry hot weather. And i believe you had good thriving room or rooms. It also can be systemic living in California we get California I'm in Southern Sometimes in northern California cuts make their way down here and we have super strains of mold powdery mildew. When this happens if any little thing goes out of whack your Room could have an outbreak. I could only go by my experience. My thoughts were how would there be powdery mill do in Palm Springs or in the desert and I couldn't figure out why I kept getting with powdery mildew When my hydrometer was reading 30% humidity.I started taking some college classes to learn about bio stimulants. Also learning the Hall when put a bann on all fungicides and pesticides and how they countered that to fix the problem. And definitely not an experienced grower and have about 10 years of real growing 5 years of budget in wreaking rooms. I managed to hydroponic store out here for a year so I saw a lot of problems of people coming in when we still weren't even able to talk about it We had to do the air "tomato plants.
    Please no I respect and value anyone and everyone's opinion. And I hope you don't feel like I was being a jerk. it's hard to interpret someone's conversation through text it could be taken many ways. Take care
     
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    ANC

    ANC Well-Known Member

    Clay pot? Check. Hold my joint and watch this.

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    andy s

    andy s Well-Known Member

    you can do alot more with the sun than indoor :) but ya i think its doable your pic proves it lol you just gotta treat her right and water the right way for that pot since all pots and mediums usually differ
     
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    ANC

    ANC Well-Known Member

    That is like almost 3-foot plant with half of it being a cola... started her 3 months after we normally plant outdoors.


    Hey, don't Bogart that joint.

     
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    jasonjsf

    jasonjsf New Member

    Hi guys, I'm new to growing and I believe that I'm having the same issue as the oriyginal post so I apologize if I'm repeating. I am just getting a little stressed out. My plants were perfect and suddenly the started drooping and yellowing started from the bottom up. According to the info I found it was from overwatering and N toxicity but what I find strange is that I have the fabric pots and I water with a spraybottle. Only when I water with nutes I put more water. The soil is dry right now and am wondering whether I too should letthe soil dry out completely to then water with water only. I don't wanna lose my girls so please some advice.Thanks in advance. IMG_0373.jpg IMG_0374.jpg IMG_0372.jpg IMG_0373.jpg IMG_0374.jpg IMG_0372.jpg
     
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    andy s

    andy s Well-Known Member

    lol love it
     
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    andy s

    andy s Well-Known Member

    under watering is just as bad as overwatering no n def tht i see id give them a water with clean water and water the soil 2 maybe 3 x's a week feed omce or twice a week i dont spray my plants at all so idk what to say there lol
     

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