DonBrennons 'Unconventional' organic gardens

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DonBrennon

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calliandra said:
Yeah I'm liking just setting them up in a direction and letting them go too - haven't thought of the mainline as a basic structure, but then again, I've been doing autos lately ;)

Ahhh, so THAT is how sexing is done! Thanks for the insight! :mrgreen:
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I'm finding that the delay caused by the mainlining gives time to get the cuttings rooted and into flower before the plants get way too big. The ideal scenario for me would be for the first 'topping' to be the cutting I sex from, but for some reason my success with these cuttings isn't as good as when cuttings are taken when the plants are a little older. The ones I've done this time are looking good, just dipped in aloe vera and pushed into coco plugs.

I also think the early topping and LST'ing, both give a strong structure for the canopy and gives time for a better root system to develop...................this is only anecdotal obv
 
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Vnsmkr said:
In my experience most sativas dont require alot "maintenance" in that aspect. I think that fh and comfey smoothies should help her level out and let her do her thing. As you know its a natural progression with paleing albeit a little early. As long as its not rapidly yellowing should be fine. I find most sativas Ive run to not need alot on the food side and the pure stuff here doesnt like much anything at all except water. They pale some like that too early flower
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She has stopped dropping as many of the lower leaves that weren't getting any light, but I might just brew up some AACT for peace of mind. Usually sorts any 'issues' out
 
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calliandra said:
Yeah but aren't sativas supposed to be lighter?
No idea where I picked that up, but it's deeply ingrained in my world view (haha, does that count as validation?) :bigjoint:
just kidding :P
sorry I was just in the politics forum, it does things to people lol
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LOL, that politics forum is a little heated, but if you want 'fucked up' go to the uk growers forum, LOL, but don't post anything unless you want eating alive(digitally). pmsl
 
calliandra

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DonBrennon said:
I'm finding that the delay caused by the mainlining gives time to get the cuttings rooted and into flower before the plants get way too big. The ideal scenario for me would be for the first 'topping' to be the cutting I sex from, but for some reason my success with these cuttings isn't as good as when cuttings are taken when the plants are a little older. The ones I've done this time are looking good, just dipped in aloe vera and pushed into coco plugs.

I also think the early topping and LST'ing, both give a strong structure for the canopy and gives time for a better root system to develop...................this is only anecdotal obv
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If we must be exact lets be exact: it's experiential ;)

It really makes sense to me based on my own experiences to now, and I look forward to growing photoperiod again after my move and trying out more! :mrgreen:
Though that Mephisto girl I've got going... I think I've learned alot with these auto runs, doing the minimum at the right time for a maximum result. Not much different, just abbreviated and lighter interventions.

Interesting about that first topping, which would be spot on following the mini-max principle :rolleyes:
I do wonder why they don't take root so readily, they must be chock full of growth hormones, maybe the wrong ones?
Bah, I know nothing!
Cheers! :bigjoint:
 
DonBrennon

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calliandra said:
If we must be exact lets be exact: it's experiential ;)

It really makes sense to me based on my own experiences to now, and I look forward to growing photoperiod again after my move and trying out more! :mrgreen:
Though that Mephisto girl I've got going... I think I've learned alot with these auto runs, doing the minimum at the right time for a maximum result. Not much different, just abbreviated and lighter interventions.
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I've only ever done 2 or 3 auto's before, but didn't know anything about them at the time, I obviously researched a little about them after I'd F**c*d em right up. I still don't know enough about them, but I think there's breeding potential for making strains that could finish outdoors where I live to a decent standard.


calliandra said:
Bah, I know nothing!
Cheers! :bigjoint:
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You're way deeper than the majority of us on this forum though, in a good way, LOL
 
calliandra

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DonBrennon said:
I've only ever done 2 or 3 auto's before, but didn't know anything about them at the time, I obviously researched a little about them after I'd F**c*d em right up. I still don't know enough about them, but I think there's breeding potential for making strains that could finish outdoors where I live to a decent standard.
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Oh yes definitely! I am currently blown away by the Mephisto seed I'm growing, something along those lines (and probably a tad more robust) would do the trick.
I've seen some fresh outdoor here and it's heartbreaking the way they had to chop early, their bud is all green and skinny...

Vnsmkr said:
ha ha ha, its (UK growers forum) pure entertainment. politics forum is fucking useless
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Yeah I'm seeing that now lol
 
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DonBrennon said:
I've only ever done 2 or 3 auto's before, but didn't know anything about them at the time, I obviously researched a little about them after I'd F**c*d em right up. I still don't know enough about them, but I think there's breeding potential for making strains that could finish outdoors where I live to a decent standard.




You're way deeper than the majority of us on this forum though, in a good way, LOL
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I think getawaymountain said his website will be online come december so those would be perfect for you. He is outdoor maine
 
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Seems I was OK, first half of the 'New room' fully functional
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Been a long day and I'm finished now...............the control system above from left to right is-

1. 10 amp mini circuit breaker (To protect everything, I've worked out I should be at around 7 amps max, If I get overcurrent or thermal overload the circuit should be broken, always better safe than sorry.............another note, the circuit supplying the light is RCD protected too)
2. Time clock for main lights
3. Contactor for main lights
4. Time clock for deep red light
5. Contactor for deep red light(probably not needed and will be utilised to split the cobs and mono's timing's on my main light...........when I get another time clock)
 
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DonBrennon

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Most of the first round of cuttings have rooted, so I've potted em up ready for flowering. I'll give em a few days to establish, then flip em to 12-12
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There are 8 SSDD's, 7 PK x Livers', 6 C99's and a solitary Sitori x Purple Bullrider of unknown origin, but looks like a real interesting plant. Fingers crossed for plenty of females
 
calliandra

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DonBrennon said:
Most of the first round of cuttings have rooted, so I've potted em up ready for flowering. I'll give em a few days to establish, then flip em to 12-12
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There are 8 SSDD's, 7 PK x Livers', 6 C99's and a solitary Sitori x Purple Bullrider of unknown origin, but looks like a real interesting plant. Fingers crossed for plenty of females
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Nice garden :D - what are you planning for the other side of the room?
And very vital roots the cuttings are pushing out there! speaks for the aliveness of your ecosystem ;)
yes, fingers crossed!
 
DonBrennon

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calliandra said:
Nice garden :D - what are you planning for the other side of the room?
And very vital roots the cuttings are pushing out there! speaks for the aliveness of your ecosystem ;)
yes, fingers crossed!
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The other side's gonna be a mirror image, with 5-6 'BIG' plants down each side and a little aisle down the middle. I've got 30L fabric pots which they'll go into once the clones have shown sex. I'll pick some of the males out and flower them in the little cab the cuttings are currently in, do a bit of pollen chucking........making seeds is fun.

I like the coco plugs I used for the cuttings, never used them before and thought they were horrible at first. When you soak them they start falling apart, so you've got to stuff them in the tray quick and leave em there, which is probably a good thing.
 
calliandra

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DonBrennon said:
The other side's gonna be a mirror image, with 5-6 'BIG' plants down each side and a little aisle down the middle. I've got 30L fabric pots which they'll go into once the clones have shown sex. I'll pick some of the males out and flower them in the little cab the cuttings are currently in, do a bit of pollen chucking........making seeds is fun.

I like the coco plugs I used for the cuttings, never used them before and thought they were horrible at first. When you soak them they start falling apart, so you've got to stuff them in the tray quick and leave em there, which is probably a good thing.
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Oh that sounds great! Looking forward to seeing it progress! :mrgreen:

Ah the coco plugs, not my favorite medium at all. Might try them again next year though as I still have some lying around, it has occurred to me to soak them in compost tea perhaps :)
But what I meant by aliveness isn't in the medium anyway, but in the plants themselves - at least I observed something similar with my basil this year. I took some cuttings for the kitchen and then didn't need all of them. The 2 remaining ones threw roots in the plain water they were in within 2 days haha - couldn't eat those anymore ;) I attributed this to the fact that the mother plant was growing with mycorrhizae and was super robust compared to the store bought plants I supplemented with.
So when I saw those strong root tips on your cuttings, I inferred the same about your mother plants :weed:
Cheers! :bigjoint:
 
Bunnybrew

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DonBrennon said:
I don't know if this one will work for you
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06fq03t/oak-tree-natures-greatest-survivor
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The bbc always have the best documentaries. They will stop at absolutely nothing to study and observe all in the name of science and they are thorough beyond belief lol. I have seen the decay one years back but the oak tree video was new to me. Thank you. Allow me to suggest that you check out Richard Hammonds nature documentaries. Some really cool stuff
 
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