Donald Trump

doublejj · Aug 30, 2015

churchhaze said:
I was going to vote for Bernie Sanders in the democratic primaries, but recently learned that he has blocked immigration reform bills to protect labor unions and wages. Now I'm leaning toward Hillary... which I'm ashamed to admit. (although it does seem like The Donald is working for Hillary's campaign... Very believable)

Edit: I'd probably still vote for him in the general election if he wins the primaries, unless Republicans somehow pick a sparkling candidate.

Who?

doublejj · Aug 30, 2015

Carolina Dream'n said:
Lol. Americans are generous? What America do you live in? We are selfish, self entitled assholes if you want to classify us as a whole. We might try to put up a front that we generous for public relation reasons, but just like a company that donates for good rep, it's only to "show what type of person you are" not that you actually have a desire to help. If people were not praised for donations, you best believe barely anyone would do it. The only reason I see people donate clothes to Salvation Army or goodwill, tax right offs.

I regularly do "random acts of kindness" to strangers when I'm alone & never tell anyone. Because it makes me feel good & to send out a message...."we are not all selfish bastards".

ChesusRice · Aug 30, 2015

churchhaze said:
I was going to vote for Bernie Sanders in the democratic primaries, but recently learned that he has blocked immigration reform bills to protect labor unions and wages. Now I'm leaning toward Hillary... which I'm ashamed to admit. (although it does seem like The Donald is working for Hillary's campaign... Very believable)

Edit: I'd probably still vote for him in the general election if he wins the primaries, unless Republicans somehow pick a sparkling candidate.

There is a reason he opposed the 2007 bill. He is a strong advocate for immigration reform. Btw. Unions are for immigration reform as well.

More on Sanders stance here
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/bernie-sanders-and-immigration-its-complicated-119190

Rob Roy · Aug 30, 2015

Carolina Dream'n said:
Our government forces our resources to be redistributed because 90% of us would never give a penny to anyone by our own free will.

They force resources to be redistributed to enable the bigger picture for themselves, to ensure they can maintain access to power thru government. If government were too tyranical and didn't provide a facade of "helping people" even the sheep might finally wake up.

Concerning giving, when something is freely given it is a charitable act, when something is forcibly redistributed it's a kind of theft, wearing a magic government suit doesn't change the nature of the action. If it's wrong for you and I as individuals to forcibly redistribute our respective neighbors property against their wishes, it's wrong for us to join with other neighbors and do the same thing, which is essentially what a coercive government does. Peace.

UncleBuck · Aug 30, 2015

Rob Roy said:
They force resources to be redistributed to enable the bigger picture for themselves, to ensure they can maintain access to power thru government. If government were too tyranical and didn't provide a facade of "helping people" even the sheep might finally wake up.

Concerning giving, when something is freely given it is a charitable act, when something is forcibly redistributed it's a kind of theft, wearing a magic government suit doesn't change the nature of the action. If it's wrong for you and I as individuals to forcibly redistribute our respective neighbors property against their wishes, it's wrong for us to join with other neighbors and do the same thing, which is essentially what a coercive government does. Peace.

so you finally found someone who was forced to sign a withholding agreement?

Rob Roy · Aug 30, 2015

UncleBuck said:
so you finally found someone who was forced to sign a withholding agreement?

Hey what happened to the fish you were torturing by pouring beer down his throat? You didn't send him in to find the gerbil did you ?
Do you have to walk funny when you're harboring wildlife internally?

doublejj · Aug 30, 2015

Rob Roy said:
They force resources to be redistributed to enable the bigger picture for themselves, to ensure they can maintain access to power thru government. If government were too tyranical and didn't provide a facade of "helping people" even the sheep might finally wake up.

Concerning giving, when something is freely given it is a charitable act, when something is forcibly redistributed it's a kind of theft, wearing a magic government suit doesn't change the nature of the action. If it's wrong for you and I as individuals to forcibly redistribute our respective neighbors property against their wishes, it's wrong for us to join with other neighbors and do the same thing, which is essentially what a coercive government does. Peace.

Fight on my brother....you have my respect and admiration..

UncleBuck · Aug 30, 2015

Rob Roy said:
Hey what happened to the fish you were torturing by pouring beer down his throat? You didn't send him in to find the gerbil did you ?
Do you have to walk funny when you're harboring wildlife internally?

i'll take that as a no. you haven't found a single person who was forced to sign a withholding agreement.

Jimdamick · Aug 30, 2015

ChesusRice said:
What about the world's longest unsecured border?

The one we have with Canada?

Big difference, one being Canadians are generally pleasant and clean and peaceful. Also Canada has the Royal Canadian Mounted Police to guard the border, making it impenetrable, hence no wall needed.
Our neighbor to the south, Mexico, is quite the opposite. It is full of criminals, the police are all paid off or murdered, the people are smelly. What I would do is dig a moat, fill it with alligators and piranhas, and have some bicycle paths built alongside it for the enjoyment of nature.
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Red1966 · Aug 30, 2015

Carolina Dream'n said:
Lol. Americans are generous? What America do you live in? We are selfish, self entitled assholes if you want to classify us as a whole. We might try to put up a front that we generous for public relation reasons, but just like a company that donates for good rep, it's only to "show what type of person you are" not that you actually have a desire to help. If people were not praised for donations, you best believe barely anyone would do it. The only reason I see people donate clothes to Salvation Army or goodwill, tax right offs.

Americans donate more than any other nation. You are substituting your personal opinion for fact. Most of the people, nearly all, that donate to goodwill or the SA don't even get receipts.

Red1966 · Aug 30, 2015

ChesusRice said:
There is a reason he opposed the 2007 bill. He is a strong advocate for immigration reform. Btw. Unions are for immigration reform as well.

More on Sanders stance here
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/bernie-sanders-and-immigration-its-complicated-119190

Unions want immigration stopped, tho. "Immigration reform"can mean the exact opposite of what you are thinking it means.

Red1966 · Aug 30, 2015

Jimdamick said:
What I would do is dig a moat, fill it with alligators and piranhas, and have some bicycle paths built alongside it for the enjoyment of nature
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Alligators and piranha lunch delivered by bicycle.......lol

Corso312 · Aug 30, 2015

Cmon ..don't be naive. If they really wanted to stop illegal immigration they would...

1. Make it a 100k fine to rent to an Illegal Alien. And actually enforce it.

2. 100k fine to hire an illegal alien and actually enforce it.

doublejj · Aug 30, 2015

Corso312 said:
Cmon ..don't be naive. If they really wanted to stop illegal immigration they would...

1. Make it a 100k fine to rent to an Illegal Alien. And actually enforce it.

2. 100k fine to hire an illegal alien and actually enforce it.

Exactly....make it a $1mil fine for hiring a illegal

Mr.Head · Aug 30, 2015

someone had a good bit about the alligators idea. Something about giving the mexicans new boots and belts.

Harrekin · Aug 31, 2015

Red1966 said:
Americans donate more than any other nation. You are substituting your personal opinion for fact. Most of the people, nearly all, that donate to goodwill or the SA don't even get receipts.

Exclude religious and political donations, and yous give pretty much fuck all.

Political donations and religious donations are selfish acts because they're buying favours, not giving out of goodness.

heckler73 · Aug 31, 2015

Harrekin said:
Exclude religious and political donations, and yous give pretty much fuck all.

Political donations and religious donations are selfish acts because they're buying favours, not giving out of goodness.

Are PACs allowed under that idea? They don't directly donate, but can run media campaigns.

Harrekin · Aug 31, 2015

heckler73 said:
Are PACs allowed under that idea? They don't directly donate, but can run media campaigns.

Political donations, bought and paid for PACS are no different.

MrStickyScissors · Aug 31, 2015

Jimdamick said:
Big difference, one being Canadians are generally pleasant and clean and peaceful. Also Canada has the Royal Canadian Mounted Police to guard the border, making it impenetrable, hence no wall needed.
Our neighbor to the south, Mexico, is quite the opposite. It is full of criminals, the police are all paid off or murdered, the people are smelly. What I would do is dig a moat, fill it with alligators and piranhas, and have some bicycle paths built alongside it for the enjoyment of nature.
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lmao! smelly

UncleBuck · Aug 31, 2015

Red1966 said:
Americans donate more than any other nation.

sweden holds the distinction of most generous, actually.

Red1966 said:
Most of the people, nearly all, that donate to goodwill or the SA don't even get receipts.

were you one of the mentally slow people they hired to sort through knick-knacks?

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