Does pH change over time?

Discussion in 'Newbie Central' started by adultswiivi, Nov 4, 2013.

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    Po boy

    Po boy Well-Known Member

    +

    amen!!.........
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    plaguedog

    plaguedog Active Member

    No need unless you are pouring pure acid on your plants if you have a good soil/soiless mix amended with lime and EWC.... One of the biggest pot forum myths of all time, needing to pH water in a good growing medium.
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    Adjorr

    Adjorr Well-Known Member

    better safe then sorry if u ask me
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    plaguedog

    plaguedog Active Member

    So I ask you again, how are you actually checking your growing MEDIUM ph, not the run off? because the run off has ZERO indicator of what the medium pH is....
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    AimAim

    AimAim Well-Known Member

    You got it!

    Make sure you get fine ground, dolomitic lime.
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    Adjorr

    Adjorr Well-Known Member

    I check my soil with a soil ph probe. I check my water with a ph drop test kit, pretty basic stuff
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    FuckJeffGoldbloom

    FuckJeffGoldbloom Well-Known Member

    I usually don't entertain arguing, but how can you say not check it, as oppose to "better safe than sorry"...? The biggest thing that could happen is oh no you wasted an extra minute checking your PH. The bad side is, oh no my plants are yellowing, locked out, etc... I understand some people do not ever check, as i stated in my first post. But who can argue that good practice makes a good grower? thats like telling a kid hey you don't really need to do your homework... just take the test.

    I kno i kno, you never did Homework in school and your still functioning, yeah....but you could have been better educated.

    Bottom line again...Be smart check PH... I know I'm 6 foot 1 and 50 years old but the doctor still checks everytime.

    Nobody checks the runoff...if you do you don't need to, I don't even know if that was mentioned, but you check your ph before you feed your plants... runoff is waste.
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    FuckJeffGoldbloom

    FuckJeffGoldbloom Well-Known Member

    I concur...
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    plaguedog

    plaguedog Active Member

    I just find it hilarious that just about every grower on RIU thinks that the problem with his plant is pH, when in reality that's usually not the case when growing in a good soil medium. I post plenty of links with actual science that backs up what I am saying, so I do my homework. The last place to listen for advice is on this forum most of the time....
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    Adjorr

    Adjorr Well-Known Member

    and I find it hilarious that someone would actualy recommend to people never to check thier ph when ph is the first thing you should check whenever u encounter any nutrient problem :roll:
    guess were all pretty funny round here
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    FuckJeffGoldbloom

    FuckJeffGoldbloom Well-Known Member

    OK, thank you for your input dog. Science is proven yes. I stand by it and agree with you. But good practice is a scientist first lesson.
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    qwizoking

    qwizoking Well-Known Member

    Dude just stfu...
    Yes its important to ph..I don't check ph I gauge the plants response to the water because depending on the ph of your soil your water should be a different ph...it doesn't matter what your soil is like whether to acidic or basic as the addition of your ph'd water alters it. No soil is completely stable, because weed likes to be acidic..meaning it doesn't matter how much lime etc you will have as that will make your soil neutral around ph7 or so and be to high causing problems as well.. there is no perfect soil that can take any ph of water..many people even swing their ph to catch micro nutes
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    hydrogreen65

    hydrogreen65 Well-Known Member

    I run my ph lower during veg, and slightly higher during flower for that exact reason.
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    plaguedog

    plaguedog Active Member

    Typical response with nothing backing it up. DUDE, LIKE STFU, MAN.... Anyways. You are right, no soil is usually the same(but most of the bagged peat based mixes are pretty close and stable). Over the period of a growing cannabis indoors there isn't enough time to swing the pH to the point that your water pH makes much of a difference.

    Here is a nice graph on the difference between high PH and high alkalinity (most people have ZERO clue what the difference is)

    http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/hil/gif/acidification.gif
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    plaguedog

    plaguedog Active Member

    No, you just don't know any better because you read it on a pot forum.
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    FuckJeffGoldbloom

    FuckJeffGoldbloom Well-Known Member

    LOL dog you are right! But you have to know where you are at! That is all we are saying. If you check the PH you know, then you can see where you are on a scientific level and if it is correct. Don't you agree a newer grower should be in the habit of checking PH, that is what the issue is, Should i check the PH? YES! lol Your graph and science is for sure right, But shouldn't the grower know in his mind for sure, for positive, what the PH is? YES! Rhetorical questions are stupid? YES!
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    plaguedog

    plaguedog Active Member

    Most municipal tap water is just fine to grow container plants with a good mix(without checking the pH). Like I said if you are growing hydro, by all means check pH, if you have a horrible water source, then yes it is a good practice.

    How many of you have had your tap water lab tested? Or bothered to look it up on the municipality web site?
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    Adjorr

    Adjorr Well-Known Member

    so riddle me this then, theres been 3 times I ddint ph my water throughout the last year based on advice from people like u not to check my waters ph since im using soil. everytime its resulted in a nutrient issue that ive had to fix and has set my plants back.
    so tell me again not to ph my water please, I just love reading about it. and please post all these scientific facts and refrences you keep talking about because in my real world experience not checking ur ph leads directly to problems
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    adultswiivi

    adultswiivi Active Member

    I'll say this... Not pH ING my water after adding nutes leaves the pH in that jug bright red with the dropper test which is like 4.0 pH I would think that even with a buffered soil that would be bad......... AM I right?

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    plaguedog

    plaguedog Active Member

    I don't know. Whats the analysis of your water report? You have that handy? Do you use well water or tap? What is the soil mix you use? Do you amend it with anything?

    Tell me why I have been growing container plants for over 10 years and never once had to pH my plants, and have never had any major issues that set my plants back since I have used a stable soil mix?

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