Does anyone see truth?

New Age United

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I'm not suggesting anything. It is, without a doubt, refraction.

In order to bend space enough to change the path of a photon, you'd need a large amount of mass. Gravitational lensing is done on a massive scale far, far away. It is not a local phenomena.
I'll take your word for it, do you have any peer reviewed data to support this?
 

green_machine_two9er

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No he's serious, that actually is a break in logic that needs to be explained by physics. Unless it is so laughingly simple to you that you can easily explain it, please do.
I wish I could explain. I'm having a hard time putting into words the simple facts of the solar system and geometry. We spin on an axis around the sun. The earth is spherical two things we all SHOULD know. It depends on your vantage point. Or longitude and latitude as to how long you day or night is. Also seasons are much less to do with distance the earth is from the sun as much as the axis, or angle your vantage point sees it from. There is no break inlogic or any explanation needed by physics.
 

green_machine_two9er

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I wish I could explain. I'm having a hard time putting into words the simple facts of the solar system and geometry. We spin on an axis around the sun. The earth is spherical two things we all SHOULD know. It depends on your vantage point. Or longitude and latitude as to how long you day or night is. Also seasons are much less to do with distance the earth is from the sun as much as the axis, or angle your vantage point sees it from. There is no break inlogic or any explanation needed by physics.
Well I mean unless the world Is flat and one side is on while the other is off. Than yes different day/night times would make no sense
 

New Age United

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I wish I could explain. I'm having a hard time putting into words the simple facts of the solar system and geometry. We spin on an axis around the sun. The earth is spherical two things we all SHOULD know. It depends on your vantage point. Or longitude and latitude as to how long you day or night is. Also seasons are much less to do with distance the earth is from the sun as much as the axis, or angle your vantage point sees it from. There is no break inlogic or any explanation needed by physics.
Yes you make a good point and clarify things greatly, from the north pole you can always see the sun, it is only from the center of the sphere that it should only be visible from half the earth.
 

green_machine_two9er

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Yes you make a good point and clarify things greatly, from the north pole you can always see the sun, it is only from the center of the sphere that it should only be visible from half the earth.
And you'll notice the sun rises and sets at differ net points I'm the sky way day. Very small changes over the course of a year but think about it once and than a few month later you'll notice a big Change. This is also changes the length of the day
 

georgio838

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I see TRUTH brother. It starts like this.... If visually the sun takes 18hours to move 180* degrees, it must do the other 180*degrees in 6 hours (night time).
QUESTION.
Do we speed up at night?
and why does noise get louder at nite? sit outside with your stereo at a certain volume from 2pm till 9pm, do not change the volume but you will notice it will be perceptibly louder at 9pm? i think light changes the air & makes it more difficult for sound to travel through it?...or is it just me being wasted every time i do that?
 

georgio838

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We all have eyes that see, can you see what I am a about to try and show you. Yes it is completely subjective and metaphysical but I am sure you can see it too.

Always be Aware of Space

Time is an illusion but the Earth is very Real

All things come and go but the Light remains Eternal

If you understand this then you are now in Paradise

Welcome to the kingdom of heaven, welcome to eternity. The universe is absolutely perfect. Stop resisting what is and surrender to your fate, accept what is, it is Paradise after all, it can not possibly get any better than this. Come and dine with me in Paradise. Any questions and opinions are welcome.
i dont know if the street urchins of backstreet phnom penh & calcutta would agree with you on this issue?...
 

thepenofareadywriter

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and why does noise get louder at nite? sit outside with your stereo at a certain volume from 2pm till 9pm, do not change the volume but you will notice it will be perceptibly louder at 9pm? i think light changes the air & makes it more difficult for sound to travel through it?...or is it just me being wasted every time i do that?
maybe...because the sounds of the city have piped down about that time... @ 2 am your stereo will be even louder...
 

georgio838

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maybe ? a good test would be...get a empty room with no carpet, or any furnishings, a room with a good echo turn on the lights...then turn off
it seems to only happen outdoors? ive never noticed it indoors, if you live in a very quiet or remote area, set up some speakers outdoors, put some music on about 2pm, put a chair a suitable distance outdoors away from speakers...notice after the sun has gone down the volume will appear louder..like someone has turned it up a notch or two...ive noticed this happen when im stoned and also sober
 
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greasemonkeymann

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Glaucoma I know you know a bit of physics, so you are suggesting that it's the earth's atmosphere that causes this effect and not the bending of space time?

To me it doesn't make sense that it could refract over 3 quarters of the earth.
same reason the sun appears to be different "colors" as the day goes on, the atmosphere, solid particulates in the air, the magnetosphere, stratosphere, ozone layer (to a degree)etc, etc, all that changes the way we "perceive" the light.
the way you describe it is impossible.
the only thing that has enough mass to bend light is a black hole, neutron stars are the densest/heaviest thing in the universe, minus a black hole, and even those can't bend light the way you are describing it.
Go check out some physics books.
Chandresakar limit, neutron stars, dark matter, supernova, black holes.. those will clear up your theory a bit.
 
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