Doctor Recommendation Recieved. Now What?

JdubbfAdeD

Member
I received my doctor recommendation which was sent to me in an email. It is signed and meets the mmmp requirements etc.. but is the recommendation useless until I send it it to the state to get my card? or can the paperwork provided by the doc be used to make purchases and things??
Also the doc didnt really make any specific notes about my ailment, will this lower my chance of getting certified by the state?
 

Jakabok Botch

Well-Known Member
i cant wait till we get it here....or my girl lets me fukn move....i hate having to do this under the radar....that bein said good 4 you!! and enjoy/feel better
 

Timmahh

Well-Known Member
send the recommendation, with your application, and a 100.00 check or Money order by registered mail to the MMJ office as noted on the application. keep copies of these items prior to mailing them off. when you get the green card back from the post office, this shows the MMJ dept has recieved your application. they have 5 days to open and review your application. if you are denied, they will send you a registered letter which you must sign for to recieve from the postal service, telling you why you have been denied. if they accept your app, they ll cash the check and submit the application for processing, in which you ll get your hard plastic card in about 4 months currently.


so once you send the application out, and know they recieved it (why you send it certified) you start counting 21 days from that date. if with in 21 days, you do not recieve a certified letter back from the MMJ Dept telling you, you are denied, you are considered a legal pt of the MMJ program. You ll want to get a copy of your cashed check or money order, both front and back showing the Mich Deposit stamp, certifiying they have taken your application money, and put that copy of the cashed check with your original copies of the application, dr signed slip, check and green notice of their acceptance of your app/check. these copies will serve as your hard card saying you are Legal until your hard plastic card actually arrives.
 

JdubbfAdeD

Member
solid bro thanks for the advice. so is there any reason I would be denied by the state even if my application is fully completed? I got my recommedation from one of the "less legitamate" docs if ya know what I mean..the kinda walk in walk out thing. how far in depth does it seem that the state looks into it besides reading though the application and seeing the docs signature etc.
Im prly thinking about this too much (i have anxiety issues) but a card holders opinions would be great
 

Herbal Healing 420

Active Member
use a personal check when sending your 100 dollars to the state rather than a money order, you need that cash date and its alot of trouble getting that with a money order. 21 days after the state cashes your check your legal, but takes 4 months or so to get the actual card. and if you ever have to goto court and the judge wants ur doc there more than likely that type of doc wont show, which in turn would be bad... even legal you should try to stay under the radar, at least i do
 

Timmahh

Well-Known Member
only reason you will likely be denied at this point would be most likely an incomplete application, something missed ect, not signing the check ect.. (it happens here still too).


but with the last few months, a few drs have been targeted. seemingly with just cause so far (doing more than just writing recommendations it would seem), and the push on the dr/pt relationship, once the backlog is caught up, i do expect the scrutiny of applications to be much more intense.

currently their have abeen approximatly 130,000 applications and renewals filed, nealry 80,000 accepted, and about 15,000 denied, again mostly for incomplete apps.

like noted above, use your noggin and commen sence. follow the laws and rules, and be smart.

when you renew, take the time to find a GOOD Dr that isnt run out of a card mill. i can recommend a few. When they start really eyeballing the Dr/Pt relationship, you ll be damn glad you did this.

basically, impo, if you dont See the dr (atleast online in a web visit) better yet personally, and dont have to offer records or you have no records and the dr does NOT do an exam, then you are jepordizing being able to support your Dr/Pt clause, which is bad for both you and the Dr. as well as others coming into the program.
 

LordWinter

New Member
Problem is, GOOD doctors that will sign off on the paperwork are hard as hell to find. Everyone wants to shuffle you over to another doctor or just refuse you outright. Until some of the real doctors settle down and start helping us out, we've not got much choice. I know I can't find a non-pot doc in the Wayne/Oakland county area to do anything and I've kept feelers out for the past year.
 

Murfy

Well-Known Member
actually-

one of my patients was denied for missing paperwork(caregiver attestation). denial letter was received 50 days after app was sent in. i'm sure it was an accident on their part, as in lost, due to my being there when the application was mailed. they originally approved it and upon getting ready to send the card realized something was missing. fact of the matter is the party in question thought they were legal for a month before getting the denial letter.

the MMMP allows for "unregistered" patients and caregivers. the doctor's rec is really all that matters, in court. the police and dispensary are a different matter.
 

LordWinter

New Member
Right Murfy, problem is, they're starting to dicker now over what constitutes a "bona-fide doctor-patient relationship". Gods help us if the republicans can get a 2/3 majority to alter the law (I believe it's a 2/3 majority that is required to change a voter-initiated law here in MI. If someone knows different for certain, please feel free to correct me on that). They'll likely neuter the hell out of our law. And before anyone starts criticizing me for blasting the republicans, know that I can't stand either party, and don't trust anyone who calls themselves a "career politician".
 

Murfy

Well-Known Member
i think it's 5/6-

a super majority. isn't there precedent in place constituting doc/pat relationships. you would think that would be a prerequisite for prescribing any type of scheduled chemical, and would have been established long ago. if they could change that meaning it would have result, but would effect the whole of medicine.
 

LordWinter

New Member
Cool, that'll just make it harder for them to fuck us. I know I don't want to be correct on this one. I like your numbers a LOT more.

As for precedent, you're right on the money with a common sense point, but it can only carry us so far. New precedent gets set every day... mmj has a lot in common with abortion in that regard, and we all know how volatile abortion is. The more rulings in favor of a precedent, the closer it comes to widespread acceptance. Problem is, these precedents are overturned regularly, just look at the rollercoaster that is Roe Vs Wade. All we can do is hope that the legal precedents continue to uphold our rights instead of giving the government more power. I don't know how much more the people of this country are gonna have to lose before they get fed up and speak with one solid voice at the polls, but the atmosphere in this country is definitely changing. All we can hope for is that, soon, the government will realize that common sense morals, not religious ones, are what a country should be founded on.
 
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