Enigma
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It is more likely that we are a genetic experiment from far more intelligent beings than some mystical peeping-tom hiding in the clouds that is absolutely terrible with money.
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Do you believe in God?
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It is more likely that we are a genetic experiment from far more intelligent beings than some mystical peeping-tom hiding in the clouds that is absolutely terrible with money.
GreenLogician
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Can you provide me evidence now, here, that any supernatural claim in the bible, or any claim contradicting secular science, is true?
I'm not paying for Netflix or Amazon Prime, and your linked website is nothing but promo advertisements to sell the product - zero evidence discussed.
I'm not paying for Netflix or Amazon Prime, and your linked website is nothing but promo advertisements to sell the product - zero evidence discussed.
Enigma
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I can.
The Crusades.
The Christian mythology is also a regurgitation of a story written by the Sumerians.
Which was also copied by the Hindus, and the Egyptians.
People need an answer to the Eternal Question, religion gives them that answer without any hard work or deductive reasoning.
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GreenLogician
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Enigma, the crusades are evidence for what?
"I can."
I asked for evidence of either of two things, which did you present?
Sounded more like a debunking by offering an explanation for how the stories exist without being true; plagiarized from older stories, about different characters.
"I can."
I asked for evidence of either of two things, which did you present?
Sounded more like a debunking by offering an explanation for how the stories exist without being true; plagiarized from older stories, about different characters.
Enigma
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If you know anything about The Crusades you will laugh at Christianity as a whole.
If you know the Christian mythology is nothing more than a copy of an older story then you will laugh until you piss yourself.
GreenLogician
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lol okay, it was just your answer "I can" that threw me off. Maybe you misread my questions, or maybe that was sarcasm.
Yep yep, for example I know about older versions of Noah's ark - Gilgamesh's Utnapishtim,
itself copied from the earlier Atra-Hasis,
which in turn was copied from the even older Ziusudra.
Yep yep, for example I know about older versions of Noah's ark - Gilgamesh's Utnapishtim,
itself copied from the earlier Atra-Hasis,
which in turn was copied from the even older Ziusudra.
Venus55
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Incompatible creationism
There is a more widespread acceptance that believing in evolution and creationism is incompatible. Evolution is an idea based on scientific evidence that life developed because of random mutations in genetic material and the process of natural selection. Creationism, on the other hand, requires faith without analysis that life began due to the intervention of a supernatural creator. For this reason, there is a conflict between evolution and creationism that some people say can never be resolved.
For instance, some evolutionary scientists, including Richard Dawkins, see a world where only evolution can exist. Such evolutionists reject the premise of religion on the grounds that there is no evidence for it, instead favouring a naturalist worldview. Naturalism is the belief that only things in the natural world that can be observed and verified with evidence exist. For these scientists, evolution is the only way of explaining the origins of life, as belief in a creator requires faith and faith has no natural basis that can be subjected to experimentation.
Others have argued that this naturalist worldview can itself be seen as a kind of modern religion. For example, Philip Johnson, an advocate of the theory of intelligent design, argues that scientists often place large amounts of faith and belief into Darwin’s theory of evolution. He says that evolution easily substitutes traditional religion and provides all the benefits, such as an explanation of where we came from. But those naturalist scientists still reject the idea of evolution being compatible with religion that involves a creator God.
The dualist alternative
Other evolutionists advocate a “dualist” way of looking at the world that gives space to both religion and evolution. Instead of seeing religion as something that comes from God, these scientistssee it as a human adaptation to life, where religion has developed because of evolution.
Under this perspective, religion evolved naturally as a way of promoting cooperation. Humans need to cooperate to survive and religion provides a basis for them to do so. Religion can also help shame those who try to reject their group membership in order to make them tow the line and maximise greater chances of survival for the group.
The catch is that this worldview is not actually very kind to traditional theology. It describes religion in a way that is fundamentally atheistic in character, without belief in gods, corporeal spirit or life after death. This is why evolutionary scientists with dualist beliefs don’t see a conflict between religion and evolution. They don’t hold religious beliefs in the traditional sense. Instead they use evolution to explain the existence of religion.
Ultimately, to accept evolution as scientific fact, scientists (and indeed anyone) have to abandon the tenets of religion and accept there is no higher authority on the most meaningful matters of human existence. And that is what offends most religiously-minded people.
This article was amended on 7 March 2016 to replace the phrase “prominent religious figures” with “prominent figures with relgious beliefs” to avoid confusion.
Oddly enough, much of Christianity was loosely borrowed from Paganism. Mind you, the superhuman "God" in Christianity just happens to be a JEW! Which is really hard fitting into the notion that a JEW can, is, or otherwise could be, a GOD. That there should be enough to warrant a natural curiosity out of most humans. But belief in a GOD prays on the ignorant. It prays upon the vulnerable. So, like most good societies....you kill those humans. ANd, thats what the Romans did. They hung your "God" on a cross, to die. and...he died....go figure, thats what mortals do!
The bible is real. I can even put a finger on it. You don't really need science to come to the conclusion that the bible is real.
Its the contents within the bible the science has and always will, be able to, prove as utter bullshit. What it can't prove, isn't worth the time to argue. Its just to bizarre, strange, unworthy, or not worth the time of day.
Christ, or more so, Jesus of Narezeth was not the first to make those type of claims. In fact, in those days it was a VERY COMMON IDEA TO CHAMPION! How many HUMANS have proclaimed to be GOD?? Our bud Google is a answer away! Jesus was nothing more, or less, than a JEW looking for ATTENTION. And he found it, just like every other liar in those times. He found his dumb ass hanging from a wooden cross tree and NOT ABLE TO DO A FUCKING THING ABOUT IT.
The reality is, Jesus of Nazareth, whom Christians believe IS GOD, DIED. A COMMON ROMAN DEATH. VIA HANGING ON A CROSS TO DIE. These are historical facts. These are commonly believed to have happened in history. You don't need science to see, that GODS DONT DIE! EVER! That does not fit into the characteristics of Godliness ( Superhuman)
GODS, DON'T DIE. Especially at the hands of mortal humans! This does not take science to prove. Logic and reasoning....which you must use in order to employ FAITH, or FICTION~!
The bible is real. I can even put a finger on it. You don't really need science to come to the conclusion that the bible is real.
Its the contents within the bible the science has and always will, be able to, prove as utter bullshit. What it can't prove, isn't worth the time to argue. Its just to bizarre, strange, unworthy, or not worth the time of day.
Christ, or more so, Jesus of Narezeth was not the first to make those type of claims. In fact, in those days it was a VERY COMMON IDEA TO CHAMPION! How many HUMANS have proclaimed to be GOD?? Our bud Google is a answer away! Jesus was nothing more, or less, than a JEW looking for ATTENTION. And he found it, just like every other liar in those times. He found his dumb ass hanging from a wooden cross tree and NOT ABLE TO DO A FUCKING THING ABOUT IT.
The reality is, Jesus of Nazareth, whom Christians believe IS GOD, DIED. A COMMON ROMAN DEATH. VIA HANGING ON A CROSS TO DIE. These are historical facts. These are commonly believed to have happened in history. You don't need science to see, that GODS DONT DIE! EVER! That does not fit into the characteristics of Godliness ( Superhuman)
GODS, DON'T DIE. Especially at the hands of mortal humans! This does not take science to prove. Logic and reasoning....which you must use in order to employ FAITH, or FICTION~!
Venus55
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Haha well put. That's my rationale.It is more likely that we are a generic experiment from far more intelligent beings than some mystical peeping-tom hiding in the clouds that is absolutely terrible with money.
Evolution is NOT and IDEA. Its both an theory, and fact.
The formal scientific definition of theory is quite different from the everyday meaning of the word. It refers to a comprehensive explanation of some aspect of nature that is supported by a vast body of evidence....or facts. Most graduate level scholars adhere and promote the facts that are factual and suggest the ideas that are theories.
Evolution fits in the bible as well as dinosaurs do. Scientist , or properly educated scientist, don't have any evidence to support a divine creator. Life, thus far, is LIVING PROOF OF NO GOD. OR GOD is one big fucking liar....which, is just as possible considering the history of HUMANS proclaiming to be GODS!
Let us not forget, that in order to believe in Christ, you must accept his earthly book as all true, all factual.
So if you read the book, just take a look around. See any talking snakes, burning bushes that can vocalize? Any return of said god back to earth? SO thus far, the BIBLE disproves GOD sometimes more than actual science can.
The formal scientific definition of theory is quite different from the everyday meaning of the word. It refers to a comprehensive explanation of some aspect of nature that is supported by a vast body of evidence....or facts. Most graduate level scholars adhere and promote the facts that are factual and suggest the ideas that are theories.
Evolution fits in the bible as well as dinosaurs do. Scientist , or properly educated scientist, don't have any evidence to support a divine creator. Life, thus far, is LIVING PROOF OF NO GOD. OR GOD is one big fucking liar....which, is just as possible considering the history of HUMANS proclaiming to be GODS!
Let us not forget, that in order to believe in Christ, you must accept his earthly book as all true, all factual.
So if you read the book, just take a look around. See any talking snakes, burning bushes that can vocalize? Any return of said god back to earth? SO thus far, the BIBLE disproves GOD sometimes more than actual science can.
How does any God, forget to mention, in a book that they created, the single most massive creation to date???
Dinosaurs. Dinosaurs speak more about evolution than any God could ever hope to.
"God" starts his book with stating his largest creation....earth...in something like 3 days...totally fits the bill of something a GOD WOULD DO.
Then, in theory, one would think the story of dinosaurs starts. But.....apparently...God smoked a fattie before this book!
Dinosaurs. Dinosaurs speak more about evolution than any God could ever hope to.
"God" starts his book with stating his largest creation....earth...in something like 3 days...totally fits the bill of something a GOD WOULD DO.
Then, in theory, one would think the story of dinosaurs starts. But.....apparently...God smoked a fattie before this book!
Enigma
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It seems I did.
Enigma
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Now, imagine if everyone felt this way.. how the world would be so different.. we wouldn't be so overpopulated.. we wouldn't be so polluted and ravaged.. we would still fight and kill, that is the natural order.. I believe the Earth would have a longer lifespan, we would have a longer lifespan.. there would be less technologically advances weapons, most likely you would have to look you adversary in the eye when you kill him.. out medical, communication, transportation education, etc. would be far more advanced, we would have a better opportunity to explore the universe we live in.
Stealthstyle
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My god is better than yours and is the only true God.
dagwood45431
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My god's dick is bigger than your god's dick. My god's nickname in heavenly circles is Tripod. He'll slap your face with it if you don't wisen up.
Stealthstyle
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Well i dont believe in your god i only believe in my god
Stealthstyle
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Joking im an atheist