do thin stems mean small buds

Kipn

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hi there growers. if my plat is thin stems and small tops. is that suggesting my buds wont grow to any decent size. does stem thickness matter
 

projectinfo

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Your thickest main stem will make the biggest bud.

The smallest stem will make the smallest buds

. When you plants are young you can continuously remove thin stems that pop up and just keep you main stalk for one big main bud.

Look up sea of green and scrog
 

ANC

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Look out for those tiny matchstick branches and tiny little flowers that try to form at the bottom of the plants during flowering.
Keep snipping them off, inspect for them every day. It is better to nip it off and never let it waste energy than let it grow shitty popcorn buds that weigh .000002g, or cutting it off after it wasted energy to grow 4 inches of spaghetti branch.

The more shit branches you take off, the bigger the other branches get.
 

Kipn

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Your thickest main stem will make the biggest bud.

The smallest stem will make the smallest buds

. When you plants are young you can continuously remove thin stems that pop up and just keep you main stalk for one big main bud.

Look up sea of green and scrog[/QUOTE
fair enough i am running scrog i was just considering starting over as i haven't has a plant with thin stems and small tops grow before. i am just wondering if its god or bad for a plant to have thin stems
 

ANC

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It does, but new growth in shady parts of the plant will still be spaghetti.
 

ANC

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I'd keep training it and spreading to fill more of the net if that is an option.
If you like them at this size or time period, I would consider adding about a 3rd more plants next run.
 

Kipn

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I'd keep training it and spreading to fill more of the net if that is an option.
If you like them at this size or time period, I would consider adding about a 3rd more plants next run.
i was about to flip then this week or start over several problems with this run is making me question its worth. this photo is messed up. have you ever seen a pant do this before ph has been around 6 as i changed it from 6.4 down to 6 from my last grow
 

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ANC

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I would just say they look a little hungry.
You should find that once you get to the nute mix for flowering, it should self-buffer to the correct pH.
WOrking on my vegging plants is always a pain as there is the pH control step to contend with.

I'd grow em out, take pics and notes, learn from the time you invested in them.
 

Kipn

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I would just say they look a little hungry.
You should find that once you get to the nute mix for flowering, it should self-buffer to the correct pH.
WOrking on my vegging plants is always a pain as there is the pH control step to contend with.

I'd grow em out, take pics and notes, learn from the time you invested in them.
well said i have been comparing runs guess ll let them go. if i remember i will have to come back and update on how the small stem run turns out haha maybe ill have to try that silica someone mentioned
 

ANC

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Silica can take some management pH-wise. It is a pretty strong base and will push your pH up.
 

Kipn

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Silica can take some management pH-wise. It is a pretty strong base and will push your pH up.
silica is an additive right?? and you mix it in with your normal feed then adjust ph.
i do run to waste. does ph run off/up only affect recirculating watering systems or is the ph change happening with in the growing medium
 

ANC

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It takes quite a bit of pH down to bring your nute mix into range.
Some use it as a foliar.
I use only a small amount and only when it is very hot or going to be hot.
I like training my plants, and it can make them too strong and hard to train without snapping.

If you are using something like coco I would rather use my time to brew earthworm casting tea.
 

Kipn

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It takes quite a bit of pH down to bring your nute mix into range.
Some use it as a foliar.
I use only a small amount and only when it is very hot or going to be hot.
I like training my plants, and it can make them too strong and hard to train without snapping.

If you are using something like coco I would rather use my time to brew earthworm casting tea.
i didnt know you could use organic and synthetic fertilizers together. im not big on organic grows. might try it again one day
 

ANC

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I prefer to treat my coco closer to soil than hydro. It has vermicompost and stuff in even.
The microbes seem to do a better job at managing what nutes the plants get than me...
I still feed nutrient salts though, especially in flower. I have a few plants in soil too.
 

Kipn

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I prefer to treat my coco closer to soil than hydro. It has vermicompost and stuff in even.
The microbes seem to do a better job at managing what nutes the plants get than me...
I still feed nutrient salts though, especially in flower. I have a few plants in soil too.
ive done one organic indoor grow and i bet if you get good at organics it be better but id rather not deal with bugs haha
 

zypheruk

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don't flip to.flower until the girls are healthy, also keep training them under the net for a little longer. Go along the stems and super crop them and they should then get thicker and branch out more.
 
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