DIY with Quantum Boards

eminiplayer said:

@robincnn : How close to the canopy do you think I could hang this light at full power?

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3.3 sqft, 180W with these is like 1500 umol. Your plants will not last long.
I recommend running under 100Watts

Will physics also dictates that the use of optics can take those small raindrops and funnel them into a river. So as long as the volume is there and you direct it correctly"optics" you have the same intense light. These boards are offered just like cobs no optics. As you can see though they are designed around optics. That bar you are looking at above is 240 watts. @18" it's over 1100 PPF in the center. No go look up some 240 watt cob lights at 18" that are that high stand alone that high in a non reflective room. Hey I sell a 630 watt duct cooled cob light. Do you think I would waste my time going backwards really? We not only test and test and test but we also do computer simulations of our fixtures as well. Just wait for the reviews and grow journals to come in then come back and let me know how bad these are.

Yodaweed said:

Move that light 1 inch further and the losses will be tremendous, 12 inches is max range for that thing for sure. PCB boards are junk, small diodes are junk, main issue with running multiple small diodes is they lack any penetration, basic laws of physics prevent it, mainly the law of the inverse square. Small initial value = low intensity. And you don't add all the diodes together to get those numbers they are based on each individual point of light. That's the main reason every single LED maker stopped doing 1 watt diode and all moved to either 3w or 5w even though they are less efficient.

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Mars Hydro lmao...... That would be like comparing Chinese 2 dollar blurple cobs to a CXB3590.

These are white light top bin SAMSUNG LEDS. They are not epistar or whatever.

Stephenj37826 said:

Mars Hydro lmao...... That would be like comparing Chinese 2 dollar blurple cobs to a CXB3590.

These are white light to bin SAMSUNG LEDS. They are not epistar or whatever.

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Yea there are better mono diodes out there than these Samsung Chinese leds. 5w cree xlamps are way better.

Yodaweed said:

Yea there are better mono diodes out there than these Samsung Chinese leds. 5w cree xlamps are way better.

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Lol no Cree is way behind in mid power. There high power XML 2 are OK if you under drive the hell out of them. it would cost you twice as much to get the same efficacy as with these Samsungs. I don't care of you believe or not. just call up mouser or digikey and ask them the performance. I'm not going to sit here and argue all day with you. Believe what you will. TTYL

Stephenj37826 said:

Lol no Cree is way behind in mid power. There high power XML 2 are OK if you under drive the hell out of them. it would cost you twice as much to get the same efficacy as with these Samsungs. I don't care of you believe or not. just call up mouser or digikey and ask them the performance. I'm not going to sit here and argue all day with you. Believe what you will. TTYL

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Those run too low wattage they won't produce the same intensity you just don't get it.

@Yodaweed : Have you seen the results people have had with NextLight?

eminiplayer said:

@Yodaweed : Have you seen the results people have had with NextLight?

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seen some, decent led type results nothing that jumps off the page to me, still think DE/CMH/COBs are the best way to go right now these board type leds lack intensity.

robincnn said:

Application for growing plants

jk ..
A great DIY alternative to COB. Better way to make low profile, light weight, high efficiency lamps. No TIM application is needed.
Heat is spread more and easily manageable. Efficiency is a little higher. More angles of light for minimal shadows.

without optics.. these boards good for veg lamp where you need a good light spread. They will work great in tent for flowering.
Great for use where you are limited by overhead height. Great for high efficiency if you under drive them.

With optics great for application where you need deeper canopy penetration or for use in space with no reflective sides.




Optics for this Board

http://www.ledil.com/products/?ds=1&fr=&mn=11&ld=520&fm=&md=&xd=&mh=&xh=&mt=&mf=&xf=&sf=&ty=&sm=&cn=&vc=&io=&tro=&trt=0&tpo=&tpt=0&tr=&tp=&st=0&pg=0&lo=n0&ol=0&of=0&od=0&oh=0

These 3 look good
F14344_FLORENCE-1R-ZT25
F14304_FLORENCE-1R-Z90
F14468_FLORENCE-1R-Z60

C14530_FLORENCE-1R-Z2T25
F14487_FLORENCE-1R-MAXI-WG
C14642_FLORENCE-1R-UP
C14454_FLORENCE-1R-O


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Here is @Stephenj37826 Lamp with Optics
He is using F14344_FLORENCE-1R-ZT25
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That's what you wanted to put up against my Pro-9? @Stephenj37826 !
You're gonna have to do better then that guy!

robincnn said:

Apogee SQ-120 and no spectrum adjustment to numbers. So these are minimum numbers. Actual numbers should be higher.
Why not a better PAR meter. @Stephenj37826 can i have that Lighting Passport now ? You've been playing with it for 3 weeks

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i can send you extra li-cor

Hybridway said:

That's what you wanted to put up against my Pro-9? @Stephenj37826 !
You're gonna have to do better then that guy!

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id put money that $1900 worth of quantum boards and drivers would hand some ass to a pro 9

lets say 20 quantum boards = $1500
(4) HLG-240H-C2100 = $280
and budget $150 for heatsinks/flat aluminum

thats 1000W@ 184 lm/W

pro9 wouldnt touch that it would be lucky to push 160 lm/W

Yodaweed said:

Move that light 1 inch further and the losses will be tremendous, 12 inches is max range for that thing for sure. PCB boards are junk, small diodes are junk, main issue with running multiple small diodes is they lack any penetration, basic laws of physics prevent it, mainly the law of the inverse square. Small initial value = low intensity. And you don't add all the diodes together to get those numbers they are based on each individual point of light. That's the main reason every single LED maker stopped doing 1 watt diode and all moved to either 3w or 5w even though they are less efficient.

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penetration is a myth. distributed light sources will always be better than point sources for our application. comparing latest top-bin samsungs to mars with epistar is faulty. these smds use the same phosphor tech as the cobs weve grown to love

CobKits said:

id put money that $1900 worth of quantum boards and drivers would hand some ass to a pro 9

lets say 20 quantum boards = $1500
(4) HLG-240H-C2100 = $280
and budget $150 for heatsinks/flat aluminum

thats 1000W@ 184 lm/W

pro9 wouldnt touch that it would be lucky to push 160 lm/W

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$1900 of Next-Light won't. Can't compare a manufactured product to DIY in cost unless it's enhanced white. That ain't right. Manufacturer costs.
I got nothing against these Quantum Dildo Boards.
I would surround my plants w/ them
realistically. That's just me though.
Also, you may not be aware, but no ones ever paid msrp for an AM.

Remember guys I build and sell The MAXIMIZER. Do you think I'm stupid? Of course not. I'm scientific about this stuff. I haven't seen anyone else post photometrics. As far as I know only @Greengenes707 is the only other one who has put his unit in a Goniophotometer.

Stephenj37826 said:

Remember guys I build and sell The MAXIMIZER. Do you think I'm stupid? Of course not. I'm scientific about this stuff. I haven't seen anyone else post photometrics. As far as I know only @Greengenes707 is the only other one who has put his unit in a Goniophotometer.

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Good Morning!
The prices your getting for cob lights, no, you are for from stupid.
So, have you considered my counter offer to the Shere & Gynecologist visit?
It would give poeple a chance to see a Board grow bigger plants in the grow aspect & get #'s from a regular grower. I'll run a Cobber too if you want. Fuck it, your Surf-Board & Maxi-Pad. Vs. my Pro-9. That should help you.

Yodaweed said:

Bro all you new guys on this site do is make outrageous claims with nothing to back it up, you make these dumb charts up that mean nothing. Those lights are junk PCB board lights, oldest LED grow light tech on the market, if you want to see those things smashed up go watch @REALSTYLES break his mars hydro LED, that's the tech those lights use. Junk PCB board tech.

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You have got to be kidding about someone making claims with no backup!!! LOL this is by far the funniest post you have ever put up here. Because that's all YOU DO!

If you don't like LED's fine, but you don't have to come to the LED section to crap on everyone else's threads right?

Stephenj37826 said:

Remember guys I build and sell The MAXIMIZER. Do you think I'm stupid? Of course not. I'm scientific about this stuff. I haven't seen anyone else post photometrics. As far as I know only @Greengenes707 is the only other one who has put his unit in a Goniophotometer.

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Any word on the citi maximizer re-test?..............and "quantum" board, still looking at topping 2.8+ ppf/w? I see 2.4 being thrown around now...

GG's results fall in line with timber's on cxb performance

PSUAGRO. said:

Any word on the citi maximizer re-test?..............and "quantum" board, still looking at topping 2.8+ ppf/w? I see 2.4 being thrown around now...

GG's results fall in line with timber's on cxb performance

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The 2.4 figure is driving the boards at 100 watts or so. At 25 watts is what I was referring to.

I'll have the new units sent out in 1-2 weeks. Super busy right now lol.

Stephenj37826 said:

The 2.4 figure is driving the boards at 100 watts or so. At 25 watts is what I was referring to.

I'll have the new units sent out in 1-2 weeks. Super busy right now lol.

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Maybe I should read first before posting..............2.4 ppf/w is still VERY good...........to drive them @ 25w per board is beyond enthusiast level,unrealistic TBH.