DIY Stealth Grow Dresser

Sc00b3rt

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I just built a stealth dresser its about 2x2x3 I'm wondering what type of lights I should put in there I was going to use a led light but that shit is expensive for now I really want to find out what I can do to get some pretty good bud ima probably scrog both moms and sog the clones....
 

Abiqua

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I use LED light bulbs from Cree and im covering about 3.5 sq. ft. Going to use them until later this winter, when I build a DIY fixture.

Captain Morgan's thread is where to start for looking at temp bulb setup. Good results.

Something off ebay is ok. A "300'" watt fixture for $89 might not be a bad place to start. It draws about 175+ watts. My problem with these lights is this:

Led guys have set a baseline with white led's that include 25% blue and 30% or more red, with the rest scattered. The leds they are using target good spectrums that people in shitty little labs have found to be "true" about responsive plant growth.

The ebay leds use diodes that aren't the best spectrums, simply put. The best blues are usually set aside to make white led's and sub standard blues and reds are put into the "cheap" Chinese fixtures. They omit just about everything between blue and red, which is a bit. Actual photons that a plant receives is lessened with inferior diodes.
They work, but they are also driven harder, which causes a bit more heat at the diode. You get what you pay for.

I just put up a small starting design for a DIY light in my thread you can build for cheap and everything is snap together no soldering.
Meanwell, Cree CXA 3070 cob's and Bridgelux Vero.

Build it in modules. Build it with whatever colors you like. It is easily adaptable to your space and using about the best LED's on the market currently and still cheaper than most "top=shelf" pre assembled lights :peace:
 

Abiqua

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HVAC will be reduced with LED's as well and if done right, they can last for years without losing much intensity. No bulb changes, a bit less electricity [the led's i picked are about 15% more efficient than HID, watt for watt and about 20+% more efficient than CFL,watt for watt.

Led's are front loaded in cost, but when running them for at least a year, you will spend about the same or less on just about any other choice, HID, CFL, etc. ......i.e the longer you run them, the cheaper they can become.

and people are also finding out that crops are finishing faster in the the week - 10 day range. Not too shabby.
 

Sc00b3rt

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HVAC will be reduced with LED's as well and if done right, they can last for years without losing much intensity. No bulb changes, a bit less electricity [the led's i picked are about 15% more efficient than HID, watt for watt and about 20+% more efficient than CFL,watt for watt.

Led's are front loaded in cost, but when running them for at least a year, you will spend about the same or less on just about any other choice, HID, CFL, etc. ......i.e the longer you run them, the cheaper they can become.

and people are also finding out that crops are finishing faster in the the week - 10 day range. Not too shabby.
I looked at the thread he still ends up spending 280 on lights and stuff in working with only about 120 I'm pretty sure I can find something or a DIY setup for this small box
 

Sc00b3rt

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I'm still looking for other options too have a good grow I mean I did a smaller grow in about 23inches of space with 4cfls and had a pretty good yeild
 

Sc00b3rt

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What should I do for lights jeez people ik someone knows I just want some decent bud and its getting really frustrating not being able to figure out what type of lights to use
 

Abiqua

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One thing to remember is that when Capt started that thread those bulbs were $15 I think for the 9.5 watt versions. Now they are $7 and maybe a little less even in a 4 pack.

25 watts of those per sq. ft. Its a start. WW too, versus red/blue "cheapies".

Two ufo's @50 watts
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ABI-50W-6-Band-UFO-Hydro-LED-Grow-Light-Red-630nm-Blue460nm-Orange610nm-/360860613792?pt=US_Hydroponics&hash=item5404f7fca0


Might just be better to read up on building a good light with quality diodes for fair amount and rock cfl's. What about 55w Pll's? Those seem to have get little play over here, but do good in your size space.
 

Sc00b3rt

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One thing to remember is that when Capt started that thread those bulbs were $15 I think for the 9.5 watt versions. Now they are $7 and maybe a little less even in a 4 pack.

25 watts of those per sq. ft. Its a start. WW too, versus red/blue "cheapies".

Two ufo's @50 watts
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ABI-50W-6-Band-UFO-Hydro-LED-Grow-Light-Red-630nm-Blue460nm-Orange610nm-/360860613792?pt=US_Hydroponics&hash=item5404f7fca0


Might just be better to read up on building a good light with quality diodes for fair amount and rock cfl's. What about 55w Pll's? Those seem to have get little play over here, but do good in your size space.
Dude hhella props to you cause you the only one thats been helpin me but anyways thanks to you in thinking of three ideals Getting 12bulbs or 2 6pack of cree bulbs 80-115$ or 150 dual hps/mhlamp 120$ built in ballast or a 90watt led for 89 only thing is I dont want to get one of those knock off ufo's so that one is at the bottom of the list anyways them crees sound interesting if I do get emm what is the best spectrum to get for the whole grow??
 

Abiqua

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Here is a smokin deal for a Sunlight Supply 250w HPS, needs a bulb added though.
http://www.amazon.com/250-Watt-Pressure-Reflector-Included/dp/B004JKDS3I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1410393750&sr=8-1&keywords=250+watt+high+pressure+sodium+fixture

That would give you 60+ watts per sq. ft. Cooling might become an issue. But you will have shitloads of light.

What about going 150w HPS [like you mentioned], I see them for $75 or so, then supplement with a few led bulbs, maybe even a couple of the "big" 18w Cree's.

Opinions on spectrums, are like assholes, every one has one. I have a veg cab too, so it gets 3000k with 5000K, usually a 2:1 ratio.

My flowering cabs have been using the same ratio with added 2700k in flower.


I like to keep changing it up though, when I build my new Vero fixture, I am going to run 54 watts of 3000k and 30 watts of 2700k and 30 watts of 4000k.
 

Sc00b3rt

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Here is a smokin deal for a Sunlight Supply 250w HPS, needs a bulb added though.
http://www.amazon.com/250-Watt-Pressure-Reflector-Included/dp/B004JKDS3I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1410393750&sr=8-1&keywords=250 watt high pressure sodium fixture

That would give you 60+ watts per sq. ft. Cooling might become an issue. But you will have shitloads of light.

What about going 150w HPS [like you mentioned], I see them for $75 or so, then supplement with a few led bulbs, maybe even a couple of the "big" 18w Cree's.

Opinions on spectrums, are like assholes, every one has one. I have a veg cab too, so it gets 3000k with 5000K, usually a 2:1 ratio.

My flowering cabs have been using the same ratio with added 2700k in flower.


I like to keep changing it up though, when I build my new Vero fixture, I am going to run 54 watts of 3000k and 30 watts of 2700k and 30 watts of 4000k.
Well you can forget about that 250 that fucker will get way too hot and when you say 75$ for a 150whps does it come complete or no? Cause the one I found is built in ballast and it takes dual bulbs but imma get the leds first and do like Capn did
 

Sc00b3rt

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Here's one even cheaper [150w
http://www.amazon.com/Sun-System®-Grow-Light-Fixture/dp/B001JL0BWG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1410403061&sr=8-1&keywords=150 hps

Here's the Hydrofarm one, all one fixture, yep
http://www.amazon.com/Hydrofarm-SBM150S-150-Watt-Mini-Sunburst/dp/B0055F80H0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1410403061&
sr=8-2&keywords=150+hps
I didn't know they made a dual 150w. Is it a dual ballast? Where it can run either a MH or HPS bulb at a time?
Yea those are cool but if ima get a lamp imma get the one that takes both bulbs and has a built in ballast ND is only 120 so

to answer your question yes it takes both bulbs one at a time and it has a built in ballast so dont need to buy one.

umm question about the cree bulbs should 14 bulbs work? How should I balance them
 

Sc00b3rt

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Here's one even cheaper [150w
http://www.amazon.com/Sun-System®-Grow-Light-Fixture/dp/B001JL0BWG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1410403061&sr=8-1&keywords=150 hps

Here's the Hydrofarm one, all one fixture, yep
http://www.amazon.com/Hydrofarm-SBM150S-150-Watt-Mini-Sunburst/dp/B0055F80H0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1410403061&
sr=8-2&keywords=150+hps



I didn't know they made a dual 150w. Is it a dual ballast? Where it can run either a MH or HPS bulb at a time?
Yea those are cool but if ima get a lamp imma get the one that takes both bulbs and has a built in ballast ND is only 120 so







to answer your question yes it takes both bulbs one at a time and it has a built in ballast so dont need to buy one.

umm question about the cree bulbs should 14 bulbs work? How should I balance them
 
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