DIY 1200watt Under Current with DJ Short Bluberry, Sweet Island Skunk, Sour Diesel

quietguy420

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Lol your a hydro guru bro! Look at my girls when you get a chance =D
Are the sis starting to foxtail out of the side of other foxtials yet? There seem to be 2 types of clones, the whispy foxtail ones and the dense popcorn ones sry if ya got the previous of the two =( "And people say there cant be differences of pheno " physical expressions" in clones from the same mother... Bullshit.
 

disposition84

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Well to be fair, it could just be the nutes or addatives I'm using that they
just might not like or just caused some freak stretch. It's still frosty as fuck
and smells great so I'm def gonna finish it out, if it is whispy then I'll smoke
what I can from it and use the rest for hash. It's only one plant out of the
eight so there will still be plenty of smoke even if it turns out to be a retard :)
 

Someguy15

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Lol your a hydro guru bro! Look at my girls when you get a chance =D
Are the sis starting to foxtail out of the side of other foxtials yet? There seem to be 2 types of clones, the whispy foxtail ones and the dense popcorn ones sry if ya got the previous of the two =( "And people say there cant be differences of pheno " physical expressions" in clones from the same mother... Bullshit.
had it happen to me once too. But only 1 outta about 20, so it is rare.
 

RemeberMe

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Looks WAY TOO EARLY. That stuff might cause extreme anxiety (but some younger people may like that). I don't think you gave it nearly enough time to finish and fill out. Were any of the tricomes clear yet?

Mine has grown pretty much out of control so I'm bending the heck out of them to keep the tops from burning. Next time I start 12/12 when they're only 2" tall. I waited till they were growing too well at 2.5' before I switched over. They are XJ13 and can get just too tall for my meager 4' of plant space (current shed space is 6' so 1.5' buckets, .5 light fixture, .5' from lights leaves only 3.5'). Just as long as I like the high/smell/yield I'll grow them again because cloning is free.

OH, yea. Next time I was thinking of cutting the nutes to something like 10/2/2 during stretch to hopefully keep that down.

And, my buds seem to be coming out way more thin than I usually get as well. The plants look almost too green and shining while flowering. While hydro certainly grows the plants at their optimum it may be causing too much nitrogen uptake to occur. I'm going to cut back their N and give them more P and K using GH separate mixes to see if that boosts their flowering.
 

disposition84

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I still have a hard time understanding why/when plants different ratios of NPK
something I've been trying to educate myself on in the meantime.

Does anyone have any good sources for reading up on how to understand what
plants need for NPK?

I know the samples were early as they're only from week 6, I don't really get
anxiety from bud it's more just an up high vs. a tired high. I used to have more
anxiety before my grow was legal but now that it's all legit and my red card is
on the wall it's a very peaceful feeling.
 

disposition84

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Day 42 Flower:
PH - 5.6 PPM - 1000 Res Temp - 61*F
RH - 35% Ambient temp - 82*

Sativas are getting:

Advanced Sensi A/B
DM Silica
Greenleaf Cal Mag Bloom/Sweet Candy/Element X/Bammer Bud
Great White


Indicas are getting:

Advanced Sensi A/B
DM Silica
Greenleaf Cal Mag Bloom/Sweet Candy/Element X/Redline
H&G Shooting Powder
Gravity
Great White


Sweet Island Skunk is starting to fill in from the bottom up very
nicely, not as dense as I'd hoped but is absolutely coated in trichs.
Sour D continues to explode, I need a new change of pants every
time I check them out as they continually just impress me. The BB
is doing great, hard as a rock as some of the colas have started to
really put on some beef. Saw my friends BB of same cut and the
main colas are absolutely fucking nuts so that has me very inspired :)



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disposition84

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Day 49 Flower:
PH - 5.8 PPM - 1100 Res Temp - 61*F
RH - 35% Ambient temp - 82*

Sativas are getting:

Advanced Sensi A/B
DM Silica
Greenleaf Cal Mag Bloom/Sweet Candy/Element X/Bammer Bud
Great White
Snow storm ultra/Gravity


Indicas are getting:

Advanced Sensi A/B
DM Silica
Greenleaf Cal Mag Bloom/Sweet Candy/Element X/Redline
H&G Shooting Powder
Snow storm ultra/Gravity
Great White

SIS is continually filling out still, but still looks funny. Really hoping she
fills out as it looks like it could be some killer smoke. Everything else is
going well. Tomorrow is first day of week 8, and last week of nutes, next
week should be the final week, and she will get nothing but water and florakleen.
The sativas will go to 12 weeks with the 12th week being nothing but flush.

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thomas12404

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I love the grow. Do you use a float valve? Whats the easiest way to set them up and where did you get yours? I also was trying to figure out how you have your buckets set up. Do you use 2?
 

disposition84

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I have a float valve for when I go out of town, but for the most part I balance
the level by hand when I check on the PH.

I built mine using the diagrams from the website, some slight differences
being that I'm using custom netpots as well as 5g buckets.

I have 4 buckets in a square pattern, with 1 extra bucket used as the epicenter,
I think it's the same as the 4xl. I have two of theses systems one for indicas, and
another for sativas.
 

disposition84

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Day 57 Flower:
PH - 5.5 PPM - 400 Res Temp - 61*F
RH - 35% Ambient temp - 80*

Advanced Sensi A/B
Snow storm ultra/Gravity

Feeling pretty stupid right now as I have gotten my flowering times on the
different strains completely mixed up. The SIS is the longest of the flowering
plants at 10 weeks. I had thought that the Sour D was a 10 week strain as
well but turns out it's the shortest flowering of the three probably. The
sour D colas are already starting to show some orange hairs and looks like it's
finishing up. The blueberry I'm going to keep an eye on but but it doesn't look
quite done yet so maybe another week or two. Debating if I should dismantle
the system and segregate the SIS nutes so that I can continue on at a higher
PPM, but part of me is just saying fuck it as she already looks very strange.
Still very excited as things look good, and excited to move onto my next project.

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disposition84

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AdamBlack760

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A few questions for you
If you were to buld it agen would you use square pails (5 or 8 gal) or keep the round ones.
If keeping the round ones would you use net pots like these.
http://www.greners.com/pots-tables-reservoirs/products/mesh-bottom-pots-and-cups/wide-lip-basket-10.html
http://www.greners.com/pots-tables-reservoirs/products/mesh-bottom-pots-and-cups/wide-lip-basket-6.html
what kind of flow rate is needed i cant find a figure anywhere for total system recirc or recirc per bucket

Thanks for your help
 

disposition84

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I would absolutely use the square ones if using uniseals. On the
advertisement I had seen they were connecting pvc to a bucket
in the same manner I wanted to and it looked very easy and leak
free. While it was pretty easy with some vasoline, the leak proof
part not so much, I used some silicone aquarium glue to fix it up
without any issues.

Yeah those netpots are nice and easy I had the smaller buckets
already so figured I'd use those, but drilling that many holes becomes
quite the pita. I am curious to see what the roots look like in it though
when I pull them down.

I don't think there's a specified rate at which the nutes need to circulate,
in fact I don't think they'd have to at all. Being able to recirculate gives you
the ability to keep your nutes nice and mixed up as well as giving you the
ability to adjust your PH/EC in multiple buckets with ease. I have heard that
the angled cuts will help with mixing nutes as well.

If I ran this system again, I would probably use a bigger pump than my 496gph
just to see how it worked. The reason I used these was I was kinda strapped
for cash and they would work fine. I would also like some real air pumps, the
ones I'm using I feel are bullshit little 3g fish tank ones. This would help with the
DO significantly.

Thanks for stopping by!
 

AdamBlack760

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think im just gona bite the bullet and use the round buckets and use the 10'' netpot lids
ive read on fish sites that drill a slightly smaller hole 1/8'' 1/16'' smaller and warm the uniseals to make them more plyable. If i have to seal it up more no bigi. I plan on running a big ass air pump sence i dont plan on useing a chiller unless i can sorse one cheeply (come on craigslist). I plan on doing a similar thread to yours maybe a bit more on the building of the system if i can rember to take my time and take pics. hopefully ill have all the parts i need by the begning of feb. Thanks for leting me bounce some ideas off you
 

sky rocket

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Newbie here. Just read your journal from day 1 til now. I see that you are almost finished. Do you have some clones or seedlings setup for your next go around for somewhat of a perpetual cycle?
 

disposition84

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Thanks.

Hopefully should have some Pinapple Express clones for the first level of
the perpetual cycle. Still chopping broccoli for now from this grow. Will
Post up pictures of finished product once it has a bit of a cure. Then I
will create a new thread for the perpetual.
 
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