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Discuss the advantages of "Vert"

Discussion in 'Vertical Growing' started by Chip Green, Sep 24, 2017.

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    pinner420

    pinner420 Well-Known Member

    I think your style is on point and the quality your generating is top shelf. Vert is just reorganized identical tools with a touch better averages in the cooling and light coverage department. Ive seen flatlander dudes pull great runs but it seems they have to work overtime scrogging etc. 6.5 foot plants are coming in at 1.75 lbs to 2.2 lbs. 4ft plants at 9zips to 1.2 lbs strain dependent yada yada. Once veg and flower are synced in rythem you wont miss any rotation based on plant size concerns you expressed.. it just flows and yes a tad more veg space is required no doubt but the rythem is same muscle memory. If you give it a go just to try another style i believe you will be happy with the ease and larger harvests. You eluded to plant counts hemming you up earlier and that is exactly the reason i chose to grow trees. After 7 years at it i prefer 3 points of light per tree. If my room was 2x bigger i could add 2 more plants in increase my efficiency but trying to tow the line and stay in my card limits and be a good kid! I use elbow to fist light to plant for spacing. "Sometimes a change is better than a rest" @Heath Robinson

    P.S. Its fucked riu lost all the pics to his threads....
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member


    Oh I have seen Heath's threads. His trees are bigger than my room. :-)
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    You're going to be disappointed; that half moon shape is designed to get the most out of an omnidirectional light source, like a light bulb. COB LED's directional output isn't going to hit the raised edges like you want.
     
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    Nugachino

    Nugachino Well-Known Member

    I'm not doubting your experience or info. But, are you sure? I don't have any reflectors on my cobs. And their output angle is fairly wide.

    Here's a tiny bit of progress for all to critique. 20171126_223745.jpg
     
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    gr865

    gr865 Well-Known Member

    To get equal lighting across the screen your light source needs to cover the entire area equally. This is taken from the net but it shows that the light source is equal distance from the screen.
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    Also notice how the reflector reflects above the screen so it get light to the outer reaches of the screens.

    It is basically a circular vert grow cut in half and laid on it's side. A parabolic scrog!
    I really know nothing about this type of grow but just by appearance it looks that way to me.

    Just took my morning dose of CO and things look a little different at the moment.
    :sleep:

    GR
     
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    Nugachino

    Nugachino Well-Known Member

    Point taken.
     
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    gr865

    gr865 Well-Known Member

    I have never done a scrog, but I do use a screen that I tie the branches back too, not weave it in and out through the screen. Doesn't that make harvesting a bitch. I have run a cool tube in the past but it was just for a horizontal grow.
    Don't run a cool tube with my vertical grow. I run the two 315's and the center fan keeps the heat away from the plants.

    GR
     
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    pinner420

    pinner420 Well-Known Member

    Room is a cozy 75 degrees 60%rh 960ppm co2. Jack Herer 1st week in the books. 20171126_214320.jpg
     
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    nxsov180db

    nxsov180db Well-Known Member

    I've measured with a par meter with 600's and 1000's bare bulb vs cool tube and I could not find any measurable difference. Obviously the glass does not transmit 100% but it definitely transmits way more than just 90%.
     
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    nxsov180db

    nxsov180db Well-Known Member

    I wanted to run DE's in a vertical grow before but I wasn't able to find any that were able to be hung vertically. I wonder how does a place sell a vertical fixture without supplying any vertical rated bulbs???
     
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    jonsnow399

    jonsnow399 Well-Known Member

    Its a pre order item, I suppose they are going to stock the bulbs.
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member


    Thanks. That is what I have seen online too.
     
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    nxsov180db

    nxsov180db Well-Known Member

    As far as I know there are no DE bulbs that can be mounted vertically.
     
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    jonsnow399

    jonsnow399 Well-Known Member

    I think they will have a grow logic brand for them, which raises a lot of questions about price, performance and reliability.
     
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    digging

    digging Well-Known Member

    I think people will be using the standard already available de bulbs, I don't think you will see vertical specific de bulbs.
     
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    jonsnow399

    jonsnow399 Well-Known Member

    I doubt standard DE will work with vertical orientation.
     
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    Nugachino

    Nugachino Well-Known Member

    Can they not be mounted certain ways? And why would that be?
     
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    jonsnow399

    jonsnow399 Well-Known Member

    Dunno, but some bulbs have to be operated in one or another orientation
     
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    Nugachino

    Nugachino Well-Known Member

    That's strange. To me at least. Never noticed any bulbs needing an orientation. Then again. I don't normally play with HID lights.
     
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    jonsnow399

    jonsnow399 Well-Known Member

    Some bulbs are marked "U" for universal orientation and some are marked Hor.
     
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