Depression & Marijuana

Kalimabw

Kalimabw

Active Member
I think the main reason the government will now legalize marijuana or even recinize herbology as an form of treatment is 1. they don't give a shit about us, as long as we pay our taxes, and 2. the Pharmicitcal company has too much of a control on this country. I'm a type 1 insulin diabetic all my life. I was the test subject for SO many drugs I can't ever remeber most of them. Most these drugs didn't help me and did non-reversible damage to me. Lately over the past few years my depression has gotten worst. I got on a lot of anti-drepressants and they didn't do shit for me. They made me SO tire I'd fall asleep at work all the time, felt nothing, and worst of all had no sex drive! I started smoking weed 2 twos ago, I'm still depressed but at least I feel, and I have a sex drive. (Sorry bout the spelling the spell check didn't work right.)
 
Lacy

Lacy

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Yes the gov't does make too much many of prescription drugs, especially anti-depressants!!!!!!! I would even go as far as saying that there are probably one of the top most abused drug in the world today. Doctors prescribe it readily because it is the easiest thing for them to do and many of them get percentages off these very drugs prescribed.
It is a very sad situation indeed and I hear what you are saying. Marijuana is great for relieving depression without a doubt. Just make sure you get out each day, eat properly and get adequate exercise and you will be fine. I like to mix up my weed because sometimes smoking too many stronf indica strains can worsen the problem if smoked for too long.

Good luck

Lacy:blsmoke:
Kalimabw said:
I think the main reason the government will now legalize marijuana or even recinize herbology as an form of treatment is 1. they don't give a shit about us, as long as we pay our taxes, and 2. the Pharmicitcal company has too much of a control on this country. I'm a type 1 insulin diabetic all my life. I was the test subject for SO many drugs I can't ever remeber most of them. Most these drugs didn't help me and did non-reversible damage to me. Lately over the past few years my depression has gotten worst. I got on a lot of anti-drepressants and they didn't do shit for me. They made me SO tire I'd fall asleep at work all the time, felt nothing, and worst of all had no sex drive! I started smoking weed 2 twos ago, I'm still depressed but at least I feel, and I have a sex drive. (Sorry bout the spelling the spell check didn't work right.)
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rev3la7ion

rev3la7ion

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Ok, so I've been suffering from severe depression, severe anxiety, suicidal thoughts, ADD, OCD, and chronic nausea which all put together put a shit ton of stress on me as a kid. I originally was a happy healthy kid with just a touch of OCD and a lot of ADD but when my father got in a car wreck and had to learn how to walk again (I was really young and impressionable) I became severely depressed which led to an anxiety disorder since it wasn't dealt with for over 10 years... After those 10+ years I started thinking about suicide but never attempted it because I thought it was a cop out no matter how bad things got. With all of this combined I started to continuously get nauseous on a daily basis for about a year.

As a kid they first put me on Ritalin which turned me into a zombie and I hated it. I was already not eating much due to nausea and having speed in my system didn't help. I lost a shit ton of weight. Then they tried me on Aderol which did the same thing so I basically stopped my medication for ADD and figured I could concentrate if I tried and it helped sorta...

While dealing with my depression and anxiety I was put on Prozac, then Seroquil, then Sterataline (sp?), then Lexapro. All of which I hate. I feel like I can't be sad. Like I'm unable to have the simplest of human emotions. Yet the more depressed I become thinking about this I'm still not sad...

Then I found marijuana. I take a few hits and I'm fine for 2 days (mainly because I only smoke kind bud). My depression is gone, I'm no longer anxious, I can eat, I can concentrate, I don't have suicidal thoughts, and I quit being OCD while I'm high and almost forget about my rituals afterwards. I'm not as annoyed by little imperfections and accept the world as it is.

Yet, since I live in Georgia I can't legally get a prescription for marijuana. The medication that best serves my purposes and therapeutically treats my ailments is illegal due to ignorance. I am forced to be labeled a criminal when all I am doing is trying to better myself so I can become a contributing member of society by taking care of my issues so I can deal with the society I live in.

I'm forced to take lexapro for my depression and haven't found a medication yet for my anxiety, chronic nausea, OCD, or ADD that works. I hate being on lexapro. I feel inhuman. I can't be sad. I can't feel the most basic of human emotion. Yet when I smoke, I am happy but can still feel basic emotions. If I want to be sad I can be but choose not to. While taking lexapro I am FORCED to feel happy. Not only does marijuana help with all of this but it is also a great relaxant!

I'm moving to California as soon as I can. My state won't legalize the medicinal use of marijuana anytime soon. Yet my ailments are impending my improvement now. I need treatment now. I found the right medicine but when I try to help myself I am the criminal. I'm not hurting anyone. In fact, if you were to talk to any of my friends, I am one of the most compassionate people you will ever meet. I care about my friends, family, basic freedoms, and society. By helping myself I can take the time to help others.

But I'm still a criminal. Fuck ignorance. It will be the undoing of our society.

I view my treatment as such:
While smoking I have the will to change my diet to a healthy one. I go outside and exercise and only smoke every two to three days.

While I was doing that I have never been happier. But when my parents found out about it they condemned my actions due to it's illegality even though for the first time in over 10 years I was truly happy. And shouldn't that be the deciding argument here? I finally found something that is cheap and effective to treat my ailments in a healthy manner. I do not abuse marijuana. I do not smoke before I go to work. I am not high while I drive. I do not deal it. I use it for medicinal and relaxation purposes and have never been happier. Yet when I present this to my parents they condemn my actions as being illegal even though they have never seen me happier and are willing to kick me out of the house over it.

Just in case you are wondering, I'm currently taking a semester off of college to save up my own money to buy my own apartment and put myself through college to take the financial strain off of my parents. I'm 19. Does anyone else view this as irresponsible and irrational? Everyone else I seem to talk about this with thinks I have the RIGHT mindset. I'm not a lazy stoner and I'm not dropping out of school. But money is tight in my house so I am going to take the huge financial burden of college off of my parents while my dad looks for more gameful employment. Once again, how am I at fault here? What is wrong with my logic, ethics, and cause?
 
overfiend

overfiend

HeavyMetalHippie
this is cool that weed helps i know how anxiety feels i've had it from time to time.
strangely enough my mother father sisters (3) and grandparents all have depression problems.all of them are on pill meds and lots of them.

the only ones that dont have depression or never realized it are me and my brother and both of us smoke weed everyday and have since 15 years old
 
Lacy

Lacy

New Member
There is nothing wrong with how you feel and my hats off to you for speaking your mind so openingly.
Most anti-depressive drugs are horrible and have awful side affects. I went through the same things when I was about your age but started quite a few years before you.
I was ridiculed and looked down on for my choice but being a teenager I didn't care what anyone thought and left home at a very early age. I did not even get all my high school credits but as an adult later got them and a better education with no regrets.
My parents never changed their veiwpoint about it until this past year when I told my mom that I still do it. She was actually cool with it and just said just don't tell your dad. :)
Its all good. Do your thing your way. you know yourself better than the doctors do and if you are not hurting yourself or others, then why not?

Lacy:blsmoke:
rev3la7ion said:
Ok, so I've been suffering from severe depression, severe anxiety, suicidal thoughts, ADD, OCD, and chronic nausea which all put together put a shit ton of stress on me as a kid. I originally was a happy healthy kid with just a touch of OCD and a lot of ADD but when my father got in a car wreck and had to learn how to walk again (I was really young and impressionable) I became severely depressed which led to an anxiety disorder since it wasn't dealt with for over 10 years... After those 10+ years I started thinking about suicide but never attempted it because I thought it was a cop out no matter how bad things got. With all of this combined I started to continuously get nauseous on a daily basis for about a year.

As a kid they first put me on Ritalin which turned me into a zombie and I hated it. I was already not eating much due to nausea and having speed in my system didn't help. I lost a shit ton of weight. Then they tried me on Aderol which did the same thing so I basically stopped my medication for ADD and figured I could concentrate if I tried and it helped sorta...

While dealing with my depression and anxiety I was put on Prozac, then Seroquil, then Sterataline (sp?), then Lexapro. All of which I hate. I feel like I can't be sad. Like I'm unable to have the simplest of human emotions. Yet the more depressed I become thinking about this I'm still not sad...

Then I found marijuana. I take a few hits and I'm fine for 2 days (mainly because I only smoke kind bud). My depression is gone, I'm no longer anxious, I can eat, I can concentrate, I don't have suicidal thoughts, and I quit being OCD while I'm high and almost forget about my rituals afterwards. I'm not as annoyed by little imperfections and accept the world as it is.

Yet, since I live in Georgia I can't legally get a prescription for marijuana. The medication that best serves my purposes and therapeutically treats my ailments is illegal due to ignorance. I am forced to be labeled a criminal when all I am doing is trying to better myself so I can become a contributing member of society by taking care of my issues so I can deal with the society I live in.

I'm forced to take lexapro for my depression and haven't found a medication yet for my anxiety, chronic nausea, OCD, or ADD that works. I hate being on lexapro. I feel inhuman. I can't be sad. I can't feel the most basic of human emotion. Yet when I smoke, I am happy but can still feel basic emotions. If I want to be sad I can be but choose not to. While taking lexapro I am FORCED to feel happy. Not only does marijuana help with all of this but it is also a great relaxant!

I'm moving to California as soon as I can. My state won't legalize the medicinal use of marijuana anytime soon. Yet my ailments are impending my improvement now. I need treatment now. I found the right medicine but when I try to help myself I am the criminal. I'm not hurting anyone. In fact, if you were to talk to any of my friends, I am one of the most compassionate people you will ever meet. I care about my friends, family, basic freedoms, and society. By helping myself I can take the time to help others.

But I'm still a criminal. Fuck ignorance. It will be the undoing of our society.

I view my treatment as such:
While smoking I have the will to change my diet to a healthy one. I go outside and exercise and only smoke every two to three days.

While I was doing that I have never been happier. But when my parents found out about it they condemned my actions due to it's illegality even though for the first time in over 10 years I was truly happy. And shouldn't that be the deciding argument here? I finally found something that is cheap and effective to treat my ailments in a healthy manner. I do not abuse marijuana. I do not smoke before I go to work. I am not high while I drive. I do not deal it. I use it for medicinal and relaxation purposes and have never been happier. Yet when I present this to my parents they condemn my actions as being illegal even though they have never seen me happier and are willing to kick me out of the house over it.

Just in case you are wondering, I'm currently taking a semester off of college to save up my own money to buy my own apartment and put myself through college to take the financial strain off of my parents. I'm 19. Does anyone else view this as irresponsible and irrational? Everyone else I seem to talk about this with thinks I have the RIGHT mindset. I'm not a lazy stoner and I'm not dropping out of school. But money is tight in my house so I am going to take the huge financial burden of college off of my parents while my dad looks for more gameful employment. Once again, how am I at fault here? What is wrong with my logic, ethics, and cause?
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SHOOT2KILL66

SHOOT2KILL66

The Gardener
I hear ya on this one man i was in that same place once i was in a bad accedient long story but i was depressed for 4 years and the docters just pumped me with pills i went back and told him they were not working and i just got sent home with more and them pills were just making me more depressed constently on 1 level never happy nor sad as u say like a zombie i wasent eating all the simptons ya went through your self , When i tryed cannabis it made me feel my self again no anxity ,depression i was eating again and laughing

If you have depression and take them pills that the doc gives it only double the problems and increases the mad thoughts if it wasent for weed and i started taking them pills i did for 2 weeks just at the start and they messed my head up bad in no time

thou if you abuse weed also it could make your depression worse abuse any thing its not good to much chocolat can cause depression ,,

It always ends and things get better no matter what u just have to view things diffrent or dont view them at all :peace:
 
Lacy

Lacy

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I wasn't sure whether you were joking or not but any thoughts of suicide is no laughing matter.
A friend of mine committed suicide 4 years ago. She was bi-polar and a loner. It was a sad situation but what shocked me even more was how many people were mad at her for it, saying it was selfish and thoughtless of others.

The thing with most mental disorders, because they are illnesses of the mind, the person suffering from the illness does not have a clear perception of reality or they wouldn't have done such a thing. People openly accept most other physical illnesses because most people can relate as we have all experienced physical pain of some sort but there is always a social stigma and fear of people with psychological ones. I'm not really sure why.

If you are thinking this way, you should talk to someone about it and I absolutely agree with the person who posted above. Prescription anti-depressants are probably one of the most abused drugs in the world today and I have had my fair share of being experimented on with them. I also agree that smoking too much weed can contribute to the illness but just know that you are not alone with this.:blsmoke:
UnEmploymentDude said:
Man, I feel like shit. Thoughts of suicide make me smile... I'm gonna light up a few bowls. Anyone care to join?
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Philly_Buddah

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UnEmploymentDude said:
Man, I feel like shit. Thoughts of suicide make me smile... I'm gonna light up a few bowls. Anyone care to join?
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I know what ur talking about, today I woke up really late and all the bad things in my life just hit me, a lot of things I know have changed and a lot of ppl I know have died, but I never consider killing myself. I actually havent smoked for 2 weeks now, becuz recently I have been smoking to get away from all of my problems instead of doing it to have a good time and enjoy life. I have no idea what Im gonna do. The older I get, the more I think that weed actually isnt helping me at all. I know it helps a little bit, but im not sure.

Im also tired of ppl yelling at me saying that Im whining about stuff and I need to grow up or I think negative. If they lived my life and been through what I have mentally and physically they would know there is no joke. Sometimes I just want to leave all this behind, other times I feel trapped here, suicide wont do anything. I just confused right now, very confused. Im not living all Im doing is surviving, sorry but this is just one of my many bad days and I dont know who else to go to about this.
 
Lacy

Lacy

New Member
I am very sorry to hear you are feeling this way Philly.
I hear what you are saying. Depression is somewhat complicated to treat. The very things that you need to do to make yourself happier, you just don't have the energy to do any more. Sometimes even getting up and having a bath or a shower seems like a real chore but you are not alone with this Philly. There are many others out there with depressive disorders. Depression actually changes your brain chemistry which can make you see things differently than you used to. The longer you go depressed without being treated, the more this chemistry goes out of whack. I'm not a doctot but it does sound like you are going through a major depression as these can last for years.

Its difficult for those around you and may even become annoying to you that they are trying to deal with your depression but it does affect all those who love and care for you. If you can reach out to a support group this would help you a lot.

Sometimes the hardest thing is just to do something, anything. When I have been through my major depressions, the most difficult thing was just getting out of bed and doing something. I had to constantly remind myself just to try and do one thing at a time. This really helped me to stay in the present moment only. People with these types of disorders have a difficult time focussing and staying in the present moment and the present moment is the ONLY real time there is.
The past is 'gone'
The future doesn't exist in reality
So the present truly is a 'gift.'

Try to stay in the presnt moment 'only.'

Another good thing to do each and every day is to go outside for a walk. Just walk 10 minutes the first day and gradually increase the time you walk. If you don't have a dog, ask to borrow the neighbours. Dogs are great company and have a tendency to be great healers. Dogs don't care about egos or how popular you are. They just want to please and be loved,,,,:blsmoke:

Depression causes warped thinking patterns that can filter reality. Consciously try and think differently. Talk to a friend. It doesn't have to be about your problems and might even be best if it isn't. Just stay connected to the rest of the world somehow or you will feel isolated and being isolated is probably the very worse thing for it.

I haven't attempted suicide but came very close to it. Hubby found the book 'final exit' I had hidden.:cry:

Its good that you aren't in that dark place.
Take care and know that someone cares.

Luv
Lacy:blsmoke::peace::hug:
Philly_Buddah said:
I know what ur talking about, today I woke up really late and all the bad things in my life just hit me, a lot of things I know have changed and a lot of ppl I know have died, but I never consider killing myself. I actually havent smoked for 2 weeks now, becuz recently I have been smoking to get away from all of my problems instead of doing it to have a good time and enjoy life. I have no idea what Im gonna do. The older I get, the more I think that weed actually isnt helping me at all. I know it helps a little bit, but im not sure.

Im also tired of ppl yelling at me saying that Im whining about stuff and I need to grow up or I think negative. If they lived my life and been through what I have mentally and physically they would know there is no joke. Sometimes I just want to leave all this behind, other times I feel trapped here, suicide wont do anything. I just confused right now, very confused. Im not living all Im doing is surviving, sorry but this is just one of my many bad days and I dont know who else to go to about this.
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Farm Friend

Farm Friend

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IveBeenCancelled, I too suffer form anxiety and depression. What strain do you prefer for depression and anxiety? Indica or Sativa? Is there a particular favorite? Sometimes I will smoke and it makes my anxiety worse. I appreciate your post - it makes me feel like I am not alone.
 
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Philly_Buddah

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Thanks again Lacy.

I know what u are talking about with not thinking in the present. There was a lot of times in the past couple years when almost everything I thought of was either dwelling on things in the past or thinking about the future too much. I realized that my memory from that time is very fuzzy becuz I wasnt really paying attention at all to what was goin on around me. I dont want to get into details but I have been in a very dark place before, luckily I never tried to kill myself.

Im just really confused right now. I know I am a little depressed, but most of all Im very disconnected with reality right now. I tried a lot of times to go and talk to people or hang out with people, but all it does is remind me of how messed up I am seeing how normal people act, and it reminds me of what I cant do. I been feeling sick and tired all the time and Im not sure if its the depression or a actual illness, but it feels very real.
 
Lacy

Lacy

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Hi again Philly,
One of the worst things about depression besides that it changes how you perceive the world and how you intereact with others is that you do end up creating certain unhealthy thought patterns. I think one of the worst things you can do is isolate yourself. I know because I do it all the time, however I do enjoy my own company even though others may not.:roll::lol:;) In reality, I am my own worst enemy.:-|

I know what you mean about not feeling as though you fit it. I can relate to that in a huge way but most people with depression feel this way. I suppose that is why it is always suggested to go to some type of group councelling. That way you get a chance to interact with others who are feeling very similar.

Its odd that depressed people seem to think that others are completely without fault and perfectly normal because this isn't reality either. My hubby is often telling me that I am not THAT unusual and that most people feel insecure with themselves; it just isn't as obvious. Its a good idea to get someone elses opinion who isn't going to be harsh with you 'cause thats the last thing you need. In saying all of this, others may be feeling as though they are walking on eggshells with us so sometimes it may be difficult.

I'm presently seeking some councelling because I realize that when I start to get insecure and paranoid, that turns to isolation, which in turn leads to panic and then depression. It starts to become a cycle that is difficult to stop without someone intervening. To say that I can help you is like the blind leading the blind but I can let you know that you are not alone. There are many of us who suffer from that type of depression.

You really should go and see a doctor to rule out any other illness and to just get checked out. Being depressed can literally make you ill; stomach probs, headaches, etc.
Later
Lacy :blsmoke:
Philly_Buddah said:
Thanks again Lacy.

I know what u are talking about with not thinking in the present. There was a lot of times in the past couple years when almost everything I thought of was either dwelling on things in the past or thinking about the future too much. I realized that my memory from that time is very fuzzy becuz I wasnt really paying attention at all to what was goin on around me. I dont want to get into details but I have been in a very dark place before, luckily I never tried to kill myself.

Im just really confused right now. I know I am a little depressed, but most of all Im very disconnected with reality right now. I tried a lot of times to go and talk to people or hang out with people, but all it does is remind me of how messed up I am seeing how normal people act, and it reminds me of what I cant do. I been feeling sick and tired all the time and Im not sure if its the depression or a actual illness, but it feels very real.
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Lacy

Lacy

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Hi farm friend,
It certainly is a great question because I have thought the same thing on many occassions. I have even quit for years because I have literally had bad trips while smoking at times. I'm not sure about different strains BUT I am starting to learn. What I do know is that the indicas are basically for physical pain as they produce more of a body stone whereas the sativas produce more of a heady hiigh.
I would like to do more research about this idea and add it to our newsletter. I do know there are many strains for anxiety and ptsd. Northern Lights is one for anxiety and white widow is for ptsd and well as Jack Herer. It is a very interesting topic.

Lacy:blsmoke:
Farm Friend said:
IveBeenCancelled, I too suffer form anxiety and depression. What strain do you prefer for depression and anxiety? Indica or Sativa? Is there a particular favorite? Sometimes I will smoke and it makes my anxiety worse. I appreciate your post - it makes me feel like I am not alone.
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SHOOT2KILL66

SHOOT2KILL66

The Gardener
I dont think weed cures depression for all people it just blanks it out and when u have no weed it comes back its all about how u think about things and how u learn not to thiink them things or even make them into possitive thoughts as hard as it sounds it can be done

The best way 2 decribe this is like 2 water taps 1 with happy feelings an 1 with sad and when your normal they normaly ballance them selfs out ,
How ever when your depressed the sad tap runs a lot faster and over comes your happy feelings making u constanly sad and depressed ......

It sounds stupid to others becouse its an invisible illness lacy made a good point about just getting up amd showering can be a strugle but just doing that an shaving or what ever , It all makes u feel better and to do some weights or runing any exercise all helps u feel better about your self !!!!
To be honest the more i think of this some people are better stoping smoking weed if they get depressed coz it can just keep u stuck in that hole and if u keep smoking u will never get out of it have a tolerance break and c if things improve
 
ToastedFox

ToastedFox

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For me pot is a blessing, it helps with my depression and it doesn't take a lot so I'm not burnt out 24/7.


I don't like the anti-depressant meds because I have to take a sleeping med with them.. they all give me the side affect of hypermania and I'm even listed as having an allergy to quite a few of them.


Not to mention since I go periods with no insurance right now it is the cheapest med I can afford that isn't generic.
 
Lacy

Lacy

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Well if you are bipolar and suffer with mania or hypomania then you have to be very selective with what meds you take. I went through a major depression one year with accute panic attacks and my gp who knew nothing about bipolar put me on antidepressants that kept me up for the entire week. They made me worse. I was actually very surprised the doctor admitted to his mistake.

If you are like this then you also should not take cold and few meds that can thin out your blood and cause panic attacks.

Its interesting to see others have the same reaction.
ToastedFox said:
For me pot is a blessing, it helps with my depression and it doesn't take a lot so I'm not burnt out 24/7.


I don't like the anti-depressant meds because I have to take a sleeping med with them.. they all give me the side affect of hypermania and I'm even listed as having an allergy to quite a few of them.


Not to mention since I go periods with no insurance right now it is the cheapest med I can afford that isn't generic.
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