Defoliation and CO2

needynate

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I take it you are too stupid to read the question or don't know the answer... hmm

Want me to spell it slow for you again?
old man with a brain of a below average teen .with no grows to show ,ur quite pathetic really . u cant defend ur claims so then u start calling names and giving pop quizzes on topics that have nothing to do with the topic at hand .. does anyone else see this loser?
 

Dumme

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old man with a brain of a below average teen .with no grows to show ,ur quite pathetic really . u cant defend ur claims so then u start calling names and giving pop quizzes on topics that have nothing to do with the topic at hand .. does anyone else see this loser?
I have a 1000sqft cannabis garden, that many here have seen. I just choose to not care if you see. I am in no way threatened by you. I'm in my 30's, and on my way towards getting my degree in botany.

Are you going to answer my second question or not? ...maybe you dont know..
 

needynate

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26 ounces dry weight in my 4x4 with nine plants ,defoliating works .. ill more then likely get the 2
pounds next time with a bit more defoliating ..who knows maybe even three ,im a very optimistic grower ..
 

Dumme

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26 ounces dry weight in my 4x4 with nine plants ,defoliating works .. ill more then likely get the 2
pounds next time with a bit more defoliating ..who knows maybe even three ,im a very optimistic grower ..


I gave you a very simple question.... What happens if the flow of photosynthate stops or slows?

You're refusal to answer "is" an answer in itself.
 

needynate

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I have a 1000sqft cannabis garden, that many here have seen. I just choose to not care if you see. I am in no way threatened by you. I'm in my 30's, and on my way towards getting my degree in botany.

Are you going to answer my second question or not? ...maybe you dont know..
no im not gonna answer ur question ,I answered one already to prove to u ur not the only one who knows plants but now ur getting carried away .ur thirty damn could have fooled me .u come off as an old fart who refuses to acknowledge proof. if u really have that much space to grow no wonder ur against defoliating. ur to lazy to do the work i imagine . just because ur to lazy to defoliate doesn't mean nobody else shouldn't .
 

needynate

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I gave you a very simple question.... What happens if the flow of photosynthate stops or slows?

You're refusal to answer "is" an answer in itself.
thats very flattering that u went out of ur way to post that for me ,if only u had clips of a grow ,that would be amazing..
 

Dumme

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lol, slow/stop photosynthate = slow/stop growth.

Sure, defoliate works great ......
.....to slow/stop growth.

...I understand why you wouldn't wanna answer, as your whole shit idea get flushed down the drain.

good try there, cupcake, good try..
 

needynate

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lol, slow/stop photosynthate = slow/stop growth.

Sure, defoliate works great ......
.....to slow/stop growth.

...I understand why you wouldn't wanna answer, as your whole shit idea get flushed down the drain.

good try there, cupcake, good try..
the way i see it u got no grows to show u got no room to talk.. all that space u got to grow and i bet u harvest 4 pounds the most lol its all about technique and u obviously dont have it . o ur going to school to be a botanist . must be regurgitating the shit ur teacher who probably doesn't grow weed says.. i can go to oaksterdam anytime id like to become certified that doesn't mean shit..
lol, slow/stop photosynthate = slow/stop growth.

Sure, defoliate works great ......
.....to slow/stop growth.

...I understand why you wouldn't wanna answer, as your whole shit idea get flushed down the drain.

good try there, cupcake, good try..
no grows to show =no room to talk...
 

Dumme

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the way i see it u got no grows to show u got no room to talk.. all that space u got to grow and i bet u harvest 4 pounds the most lol its all about technique and u obviously dont have it . o ur going to school to be a botanist . must be regurgitating the shit ur teacher who probably doesn't grow weed says.. i can go to oaksterdam anytime id like to become certified that doesn't mean shit..

no grows to show =no room to talk...
You got my one picture.. Thats all you get, lol
 

needynate

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lol, slow/stop photosynthate = slow/stop growth.

Sure, defoliate works great ......
.....to slow/stop growth.

...I understand why you wouldn't wanna answer, as your whole shit idea get flushed down the drain.

good try there, cupcake, good try..
tell that to the jungle boys and any other big time grower and they'll laugh in ur dumb ass face and gladly show u otherwise with their large grows.. u are a simpleton..
 

needynate

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im out finally ur ignorance is bliss and there is just no changing ur pathetic stance . before i go tho i wanna let u know ur a bitch
yea laugh like the ignorant little pansy u r .. ur ignorance is bliss ... keep yielding small harvest too . i cant wait till more people chime in on this thread and see how ignorant u really r.. you've exposed yourself and i hope nobody ever takes advise from u..
 

Dumme

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im out finally ur ignorance is bliss and there is just no changing ur pathetic stance . before i go tho i wanna let u know ur a bitch

yea laugh like the ignorant little pansy u r .. ur ignorance is bliss ... keep yielding small harvest too . i cant wait till more people chime in on this thread and see how ignorant u really r.. you've exposed yourself and i hope nobody ever takes advise from u..
Yessa, lol, this is my caring face.
 

Dumme

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lol I just want to make it clear that I'm not opposed to anything you said, I myself have had a different experience. I would LOVE to see a large test done on many different varieties of one particular strain. Until then, I digress.
Working on it bud. I'll be posting it on youtube, and RIU, amongst many other forums. I'm sure you'll find it.

Don't get the wrong idea, I'm all about trying new things, and experimenting. Even discussing opinions. Normally I don't have to deal with people, like my friend Mr cupcake there.

By all means, if you like the technique, do it.
 
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RedWhiteBlueGreen

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This started off an interesting post to read, then it got funny when you two started bitching, though it just became unfunny when Dumme turned pedantic and churlish. Since it seems it needs someone to adjudicate between you two then I would say in strict verification terms, Needynate has presented alot more evidence & pics (regardless of whether he's actually right or not) whereas Dumme has produced very little.

Secondly, to weigh in on the actual subject that seems to have shaken you both up so badly, I personally am coming round to the idea - the main thing that people who read botany textbooks forget is those books are all about generic, natural, healthy growth for seed production, whereas we're wanting specific, unnaturally healthy growth for bud harvesting - if you're successful at pulling big harvests its because you're essentially successful at boosting the plant at optimal output, even near to the fine line of stressing - nothing near like what you would find a wild one doing in nature. And sure, defoliating would be a stupid idea on a mother plant or one being grown for breeding out, but maxing flower production is not such a linear line. Also, the main thing I never see anyone seem to mention is simple maths; surface area to volume ratio - If a small number of larger leaves are covering a larger group of small leaves, then less surface area is actually being struck by light, so defoliating as appropriate does make sense to me from alot of standpoints tbh, and next grow I'm happy to and intend to test it properly.

Otherwise, just drop it and let it go and be content in what you're both doing already! it's not making you sound good either Dumme dude. Plus the OP has had barely any full answer to his query, which was mainly about minimal CO2 use anyway, his defoliation was a side issue if he's only a few days of use!
 
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Dumme

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This started off an interesting post to read, then it got funny when you two started bitching, though it just became unfunny when Dumme turned pedantic and churlish. Since it seems it needs someone to adjudicate between you two then I would say in strict verification terms, Needynate has presented alot more evidence & pics (regardless of whether he's actually right or not) whereas Dumme has produced very little.

Secondly, to weigh in on the actual subject that seems to have shaken you both up so badly, I personally am coming round to the idea - the main thing that people who read botany textbooks forget is those books are all about generic, natural, healthy growth for seed production, whereas we're wanting specific, unnaturally healthy growth for bud harvesting - if you're successful at pulling big harvests its because you're essentially successful at boosting the plant at optimal output, even near to the fine line of stressing - nothing near like what you would find a wild one doing in nature. And sure, defoliating would be a stupid idea on a mother plant or one being grown for breeding out, but maxing flower production is not such a linear line. Also, the main thing I never see anyone seem to mention is simple maths; surface area to volume ratio - If a small number of larger leaves are covering a larger group of small leaves, then less surface area is actually being struck by light, so defoliating as appropriate does make sense to me from alot of standpoints tbh, and next grow I'm happy to and intend to test it properly.

Otherwise, just drop it and let it go and be content in what you're both doing already! it's not making you sound good either Dumme dude. Plus the OP has had barely any full answer to his query, which was mainly about minimal CO2 use anyway, his defoliation was a side issue if he's only a few days of use!
I only came back in this thread as I was tagged by needinate, so I have no guilt wasting some else's time, if they're wasting mine. Its a six month old thread. If you read this chronologically, you see that. I didn't start the bs..

If you want to see my garden, it's posted all over the place, but I don't feel it nessissary here to measure dick size, with that asshole.

The OP would have made up his mind 6 months ago. All the bs today is moot.
 
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