dea to schedule kratom as schedule 1

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higher self

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ROOSTERMAN said:
Theirs nothing wrong with ingesting plain leaf powder

Thats how most users do it
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Thats how I take it. Sure it taste bad but just chase it with something else + I have tasted worse herbs lol!

But im about to place a bulk order before the end of the month that should last me at least a year. Probably take 2 grams max & usually on an empty stomach it hits harder that way! I dont use it daily.
 
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higher self said:
Thats how I take it. Sure it taste bad but just chase it with something else + I have tasted worse herbs lol!

But im about to place a bulk order before the end of the month that should last me at least a year.
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The only way I can take it is mix it up in some Sunny Delight and let it soak for about an hour. Or put it in capsules. I've puked many times trying to swallow kratom. Only one full on puke though, usually just regurgitate some back into my mouth. So worth it though right. Smh
 
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The only way I can take it is mix it up in some Sunny Delight and let it soak for about an hour. Or put it in capsules. I've puked many times trying to swallow kratom. Only one full on puke though, usually just regurgitate some back into my mouth. So worth it though right. Smh
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I can completely innerstand how it would make some puke its pretty horrible. Think ive just gotten used to it or learned how to tune out all the foul tasting entheogens ive ingested.

Yeah the best herbs for you usually are bitter, well worth the initial discomfort imo.
 
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ttystikk

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higher self said:
Its sad man I really could cry when I think about those who use kratom for its medical properties. I guess you could say I take it recreationally but in moderation & with respect. I think kratom is better than weed & I smoke everyday but dont use kratom every day lol!
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It's just another fucking power grab on the part of the DEA, now a wholly owned enforcement subsidiary of Big Pharma.

Motherfuckers. How many people die of opioid overdoses every year? TENS OF THOUSANDS. And we're supposed to give them any credibility at all?

The entire DEA and everything it stands for is in direct violation of our civil rights under the Constitution.
 
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ttystikk said:
It's just another fucking power grab on the part of the DEA, now a wholly owned enforcement subsidiary of Big Pharma.

Motherfuckers. How many people die of opioid overdoses every year? TENS OF THOUSANDS. And we're supposed to give them any credibility at all?

The entire DEA and everything it stands for is in direct violation of our civil rights under the Constitution.
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Honestly though, the scheduling, shouldn't be much of a surprise to anyone. Not because it's the right thing to be done, but because it's the pattern we've all come to expect from the DEA.

It also makes me sad and my heart heavy for those who truly use it medically. Myself somewhat included. I usually take kratom for the minor pain dulling and slight uplifting effects. Today I'm laying on the couch cause my back is hurting like crazy as it has everyday for the last 3 weeks. I've got about 15grams of kratom left from the last order I will be able to get. It is a more mild batch than I normally get from the same place I always use. Been taking less and less often to help me do things I need to do til this episode of back pain let's up.

Going back to real opiates or anything habit forming is not an option. Nsaid and Tylenol don't work well and marijuana is only so useful. I like getting stoned but I also have a life to live. Got me thinking my only option is going to be experimenting with different prescription drugs from my Dr again.

Kratom was a breath of fresh air.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Honestly though, the scheduling, shouldn't be much of a surprise to anyone. Not because it's the right thing to be done, but because it's the pattern we've all come to expect from the DEA.

It also makes me sad and my heart heavy for those who truly use it medically. Myself somewhat included. I usually take kratom for the minor pain dulling and slight uplifting effects. Today I'm laying on the couch cause my back is hurting like crazy as it has everyday for the last 3 weeks. I've got about 15grams of kratom left from the last order I will be able to get. It is a more mild batch than I normally get from the same place I always use. Been taking less and less often to help me do things I need to do til this episode of back pain let's up.

Going back to real opiates or anything habit forming is not an option. Nsaid and Tylenol don't work well and marijuana is only so useful. I like getting stoned but I also have a life to live. Got me thinking my only option is going to be experimenting with different prescription drugs from my Dr again.

Kratom was a breath of fresh air.
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Call your congressional representatives and senators and let them know you don't think the DEA needs its grimy mitts anywhere near harmless drugs like kratom. ESPECIALLY since they've done such a great job with opioids.
 
ROOSTERMAN

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ttystikk said:
Call your congressional representatives and senators and let them know you don't think the DEA needs its grimy mitts anywhere near harmless drugs like kratom. ESPECIALLY since they've done such a great job with opioids.
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I have got to say the dea did a shitty job with opiates/opioids also. But not for the reason most think, they restricted them way to much .
Freedom or tyranny their is no middle ground. and no we dont have freedom
 
dazzyballz

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Honestly though, the scheduling, shouldn't be much of a surprise to anyone. Not because it's the right thing to be done, but because it's the pattern we've all come to expect from the DEA.

It also makes me sad and my heart heavy for those who truly use it medically. Myself somewhat included. I usually take kratom for the minor pain dulling and slight uplifting effects. Today I'm laying on the couch cause my back is hurting like crazy as it has everyday for the last 3 weeks. I've got about 15grams of kratom left from the last order I will be able to get. It is a more mild batch than I normally get from the same place I always use. Been taking less and less often to help me do things I need to do til this episode of back pain let's up.

Going back to real opiates or anything habit forming is not an option. Nsaid and Tylenol don't work well and marijuana is only so useful. I like getting stoned but I also have a life to live. Got me thinking my only option is going to be experimenting with different prescription drugs from my Dr again.

Kratom was a breath of fresh air.
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Ive always been told The shit off the doc is the worst and imo its true.
ive never had a problem with any drug im 37 hurt my back two years ago,so last two year ivr been on diazepam (valium)and diehydrocodeine.
if i dont have them tablets now,i cant explain the way it feels.pure pain and insomnia plus all sorts of other side affects.
trying to get off it all has consumed my life.
i can stop smoking weed anytime i like with no bad affects at all,but fair enough it hasnt the pain relief of codeine
 
resinhead

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Kratom helped me very much. A war on plants is a war on humanity. Get good quality kilos while you still can for only $100 . Buy-kratom.us
 
resinhead

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ROOSTERMAN said:
Constipation,
at higher doses you can get something called the 'wobbles' where your vision is altered like you have a hard time focusing, and nausea. Beyond that is not realy possible with oral ingestion becouse you would just puke it up.

I have ben useing 4-8grams powdered leaf every 4-5 hours for at least 7 years straight, the only side effects I get are constipation and 5-6 times a year the 'wobbles' .
I also have not had a herion habit in that time either, Like so many others
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Wow. That's a lot for a long time! I have been doing it every day for about two years, and have been recently weening off. Personally, I have been having more positive experiences the past two weeks after cutting my usual dose in half.
I was taking 7 grams at least twice a day.
 
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higher self

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ttystikk said:
It's just another fucking power grab on the part of the DEA, now a wholly owned enforcement subsidiary of Big Pharma.

Motherfuckers. How many people die of opioid overdoses every year? TENS OF THOUSANDS. And we're supposed to give them any credibility at all?

The entire DEA and everything it stands for is in direct violation of our civil rights under the Constitution.
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MrBD said:
Honestly though, the scheduling, shouldn't be much of a surprise to anyone. Not because it's the right thing to be done, but because it's the pattern we've all come to expect from the DEA.

It also makes me sad and my heart heavy for those who truly use it medically. Myself somewhat included. I usually take kratom for the minor pain dulling and slight uplifting effects. Today I'm laying on the couch cause my back is hurting like crazy as it has everyday for the last 3 weeks. I've got about 15grams of kratom left from the last order I will be able to get. It is a more mild batch than I normally get from the same place I always use. Been taking less and less often to help me do things I need to do til this episode of back pain let's up.

Going back to real opiates or anything habit forming is not an option. Nsaid and Tylenol don't work well and marijuana is only so useful. I like getting stoned but I also have a life to live. Got me thinking my only option is going to be experimenting with different prescription drugs from my Dr again.

Kratom was a breath of fresh air.
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This is what pisses me off the most is people not having holistic options to go to. Seems like a good number of natural health doctors are unexpectedly being found dead as well. Could at least provide better/cheaper/free healthcare if they wanna ban all the good stuff shit!
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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higher self said:
This is what pisses me off the most is people not having holistic options to go to. Seems like a good number of natural health doctors are unexpectedly being found dead as well. Could at least provide better/cheaper/free healthcare if they wanna ban all the good stuff shit!
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The whole idea is to impoverish the middle class, then kill them young so no one has to pay for their retirement or medical expenses.

If that sounds cynical, tell me where my logic is wrong.
 
resinhead

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I read yesterday that the reason it will be illegal soon is because the medicine in the plant has been recently pantented.
 
ROOSTERMAN

ROOSTERMAN

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higher self said:
Right!
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I dont think they want you killed young, but after you paid into SS and the millions of other useless taxes for a lifetime

When it comes time to collect then they want you dead

I have a family member that that has ben denied SSDI after paying in better than 40 years, and theirs no dought they are disabled 24/7 oxygen, bedridden, on organ transplant lists, Still according to the goberment thay dont qualify.

Abolish SS, the FED, DEA, FDA, USDA, and countless other useless other federal organizations
 
ROOSTERMAN

ROOSTERMAN

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resinhead said:
I read yesterday that the reason it will be illegal soon is because the medicine in the plant has been recently pantented.
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In the last year their has ben several patents filled for drugs that have ben derived from M spesocia

Just another example of big goverment working against its own people
 
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