Dangerous Hot Shot No Pest Strip

Discussion in 'General Marijuana Growing' started by OneHit, Jul 5, 2009.

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    OneHit

    OneHit Well-Known Member

    Ive read some articles that say that this is a dangerous product if used inside the home, but I was wondering if there was a safe way to use it.

    My room is in a closet in my living room, so it does have people near by all the time. Also, I have the exhaust fan all the time, so it isnt exactly enclosed.

    I was wondering if I can use this just during the dark periods. I would just unplug my fan at night so it doesnt vent out into the room, and when the lights come on, take out the strip and put it into a zip locked bag, and plug in the lights.

    What do you guys think? I have a major gnat problem
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    GrowTech

    GrowTech stays relevant.

    Don't use those. If you have a gnat problem, do a thorough cleaning of your home, and your grow area. Use those sticky traps on top of your pots, and pour a half inch of sand on top of the soil.

    Using the hot shot pest strips will give you mean rashes, and will eventually cause you to feel ill... Plus who knows what kind of residue it may leave on your buds.
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    Mattplusness

    Mattplusness Well-Known Member

    do you by any chance have a bunch of cans and bottles around the grow area? (10-15 ft away)
    if so, the little bit remaining in them really draws in huge amounts of it, I say clean those up, and any mild bug killer would work. assuming that is the problem
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    BasementGuerrilla

    BasementGuerrilla Member

    Eh, F$%K all that hippie crap. Place 1 no pest strip for every 100sq ft in your room right now! They are magic. Within 48 hrs of hanging a NPS in your garden every adult will be dead and laying on the ground! Keep them in there for 14 days (24/7). Then take them out and put them in a zip lock bag for future use.

    Some preventative measures you can take are to restrict air flow as much as possible without heat build up being an issue. Also, spend less time in your garden the 2 weeks they are in there. As long as you aren't spending more than an hour or two per day in your garden I wouldn't be too worried. Also, after treatment wipe off all the leaves with plain water.

    Trust me, these things are a miracle and way cheaper and easier than all those pain staking organic methods that don't work and stress your plants!
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    GrowTech

    GrowTech stays relevant.


    What hippie crap? I've tried those no-pest strips on more than one occasion and they are dangerous if not lethal. They will cause breathing issues, skin irritation, etc. Also, what does 14 days mean... If the guy has beer cans or soda bottles lying around, the gnats will return. If he puts a layer of sand on top of the soil, the gnats will not be able to survive under any circumstance.

    The no pest strips cover LARGE areas, and were not meant to be used indoors as they ARE dangerous (read the label buddy)... Of course, there are people out there who have tried, and can vouch that they will make you sick, they will make your skin burn, and you might get a mean rash.

    I would rather spend $3.00 on sterile sand to put on top of my soil, and $2.00 on no pest sticky pads than spend $8.00 on a NPS that will make me sick, make my skin burn, and might leave poisonous residue on my buds.

    Use your fucking head buddy :)
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    pickleman

    pickleman Well-Known Member

    they dont work i had mite infested herb 3feet away from a pest strip in a 4x8 shed
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    tilemaster

    tilemaster Well-Known Member

    ive been running those strips for a solid month... in my budd room..and 1 in the veg room..it knocked the shit out of the mites..good by. now i believe GT.. the label is rather scary, but so is any avail commercial fertilizer, they all have federal warnings, for using the product inconsistant with label directions..it says there safe for indoor garages, unless you spend more than 4 hours per day next to the product. i havent noticed any breathing problems, or rash syptoms. that doesnt mean there not harmful. maybe i wont see the effects for another 2o years. i would love to see a case study no doubt. they do control bugs...but do they cause ill effects..i like to see..
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    GrowTech

    GrowTech stays relevant.


    You have good ventilation I'm sure... Definitely people will react differently to different things, however my fiance and I both noticed bad things occurring any time we used these strips, which is why we chose SAFE methods suchs as the sticky traps and sand. They won't get rid of mites, but the Hot Shot strips are overkill (on you) for just fungus gnats, which are very simple to get rid of with a 20 lbs bag of sand (from Walmart or Toys R Us) and some Sticky pads (from garden store, also available most grow shops online).

    Either way, I'm no hippie- I would just never recommend something that made my fiancee and I sick to someone... especially when safer, more affordable methods are available.
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    tilemaster

    tilemaster Well-Known Member

    hmmm yes i do have 4 inline fans going in 1 garage.. if the strips didnt kill the mites..it might have been the other 10 things i hit those little bastard up with...neem...soapy water... safers...DrDOOM.. ..

    but any1 regardless would be ignorant to not be scared of a product like that.. i use latex gloves when tacking them to my wall, and im never in there for over 45 min.. i did attribute my battle and success with the mites last time to this product...but it very well may have been the otheres i mentioned..making me wanna go put those strips in ziplocks bags right now..jsut knowin it gave some1 a rash..
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    OneHit

    OneHit Well-Known Member

    No, I dont have any cans or anything like that around the area. I vacuum the ground in the room regularly. Ive been using permethin with no results. Im now going to try malathion, hopefully that will work. If not, Ive heard azatrol, but thats really expensive...

    So, I already bought the pest strips, so I guess its unsafe also to just use them for 12 hrs at a time?
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    GrowTech

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    You could try it... its your health- not mine, but I've never talked bad about a product on just a hunch... If it could have been anything else giving us the rash, or making breathing difficult for me, I wouldnt be blaming the strips... You could try them, wouldn't surprise me if it works- but at what cost?

    I would rather grab some sand and let the pots dry out... because that WILL work too, and will definitely not make you feel sick :)
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    BasementGuerrilla

    BasementGuerrilla Member

    Growtech, NPS are 100% intended for indoor use ONLY. Outdoor use is not recommended. You just can't be in the same room as the NPS for more than 4 hours a day.

    OP, if you are worried about using no pest strips in the method I have described then you better not leave your air filtered bubble. The toxins in the air from auto and industrial emissions are far more likely to cause cancer than a no pest strip in your garden for a couple of weeks! If you're one of those sickly people that have to use special laundry detergent and avoid certain foods due to allergens etc., then MAYBE the NPS might not be a good product for you. But I spent a bunch of time and money on sprays, azatrol and finally a bomb that still didn't work before I found these wonderful, cheap, simple little strips that fixed all my bug problems and I want to share the info with everybody so they don't waste the time and money figuring it out like I did.
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    BasementGuerrilla

    BasementGuerrilla Member

    P.S. use them as directed at full 24hr strength, 1 per 100sq ft for 2 complete life cycles or not at all. Using poison in light doses is the worst thing you can do. You will help your bugs build up immunities if you do this. The only thing worse than having bugs is having resistant bugs.
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    tilemaster

    tilemaster Well-Known Member

    wow shamless behavior in the past...never seen that 1 yet...
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    Boneman

    Boneman Well-Known Member

    Maybe thats why my one grow tasted weird....but DAYUM! it got me toasted. I thought the only dangerious thing about them was getting my hair stuck in it. It sure got rid of the bugs though....and some hair.
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    OneHit

    OneHit Well-Known Member

    Yeah, so far ive used neem spray, sticky traps, permethrin spray and drench, and doktor doom fogger, and I still have them. I just got some malathion, but I havnt tried sand yet. I had wanted to stay away from sand because i hear it allow oxygen to the soil, but I guess I can try anything.

    I also seem to have white little jumping bugs, as well as little worm type things. Wierd....
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    GrowTech

    GrowTech stays relevant.

    I'm perfectly healthy and have never shown any sort of problems aside from when I tried these products... Same with my fiancee... We don't live in bubbles, and we don't filter our air, or use special laundry detergent.

    I know the trouble these things have caused, and offer better advice backed by my knowledge, experience, and reputation... Who you are, and what you know is still up for debate :lol:

    Not like I know what door to knock on if YOUR advice fucks me up. :lol:

    I 100% recommend you try a sterile, non-toxic method of curing the problem (sand and gnat traps) before you go dumping toxic vapors in your grow room. :roll: -- Some people might not mind 'fast and sloppy' but I believe that anything worth doing is worth doing right.
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    BasementGuerrilla

    BasementGuerrilla Member

    You are offering him the wrong advice, I was trying to help him. Get over yourself and how many posts you have on an online web forum. Stop misleading people with your hippie paranoia. NPS are a great product and the only reason you don't hear more about them is b/c a grow store makes way more money selling you Azatrol/Azamax and all the other over priced bug annoyers. I spent almost $200 and 2 months trying all the BS organic products that did NOTHING. Then I bought a $5 NPS and it was like a miracle. And now this guy has white flies too. I'm dying to hear what you recommend he do for them. Rain dance?
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    tilemaster

    tilemaster Well-Known Member

    GT is just offering insight into wut happened to him with this produtct...Basement..wouldnt u rather know some1's neg experience wiht this product that were both using , rather than not know how it affected 1 cultivator?
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    pickleman

    pickleman Well-Known Member

    im telling u they dont work for mites. what i did find that helps is the pyretherin based foggers (i dont know if i spelled that right) i started to have a problem with the bastards and i finally tried the pest strip and didnt notice a damn thing except for more mites. if they worked like the other poster said i dont think u would see as many mite problem threads that u do. u would see every one saying use pest strips.i know ur gunna have the guy who says the reason people dont use them is cause the warnings.bullshit, if someones hard earned crop is going down the shitter cuz of some mites and knows the pest strips will save the day they wont hesitate to use them and if they did and it worked u would be seeing alot more peststrip testimonials.but thats just my 2 cents

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