Concerns About Telling my Caregiver that I'm trying a Grow.

hammer6913 said:

things have changed as far as weather. not near as bad as it used to be.

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We DID have tons of snow last winter and 2 before that one. You just can't predict anymore. (If you ever could?)

yea we just got bout 10 in but its the 1st snow of the year. its 36 now and gonna be in the 40s tomorrow, i wanna go for a bike ride. but shes sitting next to the wood stove in the living room now, to much hassle to get er out the door for a short ride..

shotrocker said:

We DID have tons of snow last winter and 2 before that one. You just can't predict anymore. (If you ever could?)

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Global climate change (global warming is not an accurate term - overall temperatures will rise but some areas may end up being cooler than they are now) is more responsible for the Halloween Blizzard than the lack of snow this winter. If we start having a trend of snowless winters that would be more indicative of climate change.

And, yes, weather records do indicate that Maine's snow season seems to be decreasing from what it was 40 years ago.

I guess the Snow Goddess is listening ... Looks kind of white out there as I write Also wanted to go south today for a meeting in South Portland, but looking down range, I guess I will just stay put here in Waterville today and build up on my "InTheGardenOfEden"

bryon209 said:

yes this is true he should encourage it if he doesnt, its because he is greedy in nature tell him whats growin on

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I dont think hes greedy per say. Lots of people dont listen and want to always try it their way. Ive experienced this trying to help people who asked for help,but really didn't want to listen and not realizing how hard it can be to do it the right way and how little things can mean a lot. I do agree he should encourage you to grow though, even if he feels that way about rookies

You have to tell him anyways. You cant grow and have a caregiver licenesed growing for you at the same time. Both could get bagged

corners said:

You cant grow and have a caregiver licenesed growing for you at the same time. Both could get bagged.

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Both incorrect statements. You can, in fact, designate a portion of your six plant allotment to a caregiver and grow the rest yourself. Also, under the current law a caregiver is shielded from liability when a patient is "double-dipping" either by using multiple caregivers or by using a caregiver while cultivating his full allotment of plants.

yep. we can't be held accountable for the actions of criminals, and the one circumnavigating the law for profit is the criminal. As caregiver's we can only make sure we are legal. On a side note, I have a patient that likes both my specific meds for certain times and another caregiver's meds for other times (basicly my indica and their sativa), now it's technically illegal for them "double dipping" but i don't have any issue with them getting the meds they need, plus if they are willing to skirt the law for their own needs, that is their business. I don't condone it, i don't recomend it, but I am not a LEO nor do I have any moral conflicts.. (I am in the hunt for a great sativa and building room to flower 10-12 weekers, since i have avoided them in the past)

figured i'd throw this out there to see what other caregivers are seeeing among patients.

It seems to me that if you can split your plant allotment between yourself and a caregiver you should be able to split it between 2 caregiver as well. Speaking of which - if you split the allotment does that mean you can still buy 2.5oz/14days from the caregiver? Or does the split result in a prorated purchase allowance?

you can still pick up 2.5 every 15 days...it's up the patient to make sure he/she doesn't have more that their max amount....

funny spot right? me and the patient have been talking about it, but mostly as hypotheticals since they liked the meds but hated the prices and this patient would never meet state max, let alone exceed them..

Another one I have run into; heres the example, I talk to a new patient about what kind of meds they are looking for, and they are semi-knowledgable, they know some names but not anything about genetics. While this is going on they are looking at my med offerings and seems to be interested in the c99, and I tell them I have this and that and c99, well the patient is flattly i don't want any c99 and then says he wants this, holding the jar of c99...


So long story shorter, they had a c99 from another "caregiver" and it sucked, and they decided they didn't like the cindy. I donated a small amount of the c99 for them to try, and of course it was nothing like their previous experience.. so the point; any one experience other "caregivers" giving bad names to good strains with either faulty advertising or poor growing, or maybe a little of both?..

The problem with an industry based on piracy is that it can be hard to distinguish between scams, incompetence and good intentions gone awry.

sure, I have a patient that was dead set against trainwreck, till he tried some of mine....now it's his nightime go to......

Kinda what I meant when I said it's more the grower than anything in producing top shelf meds......not that mine are top-shelf but you understand.....

Unless your caregiver is only in it for the money, he may get offended you telling him that you started your own grow. Most likely though he will encourage your grow and may even give you some growing tips or advice. Soak up all the knowledge you can.

I was thinking "how do I brand my meds?" I could leave a business card in every bag, but w/ 5 patients thats an over kill, I could tell people its the 'cerberus c99'.. but the real answer is education, educated people make good informed choices..

just figured bounce problems off some others and see if there is some easy solution, cuz education aint easy..

The more money you have to throw @ it the more he will be willing to help imo.
When ppl ask me for help I am assuming they want me to point them down an isle @ home depot.

mdanforth said:

sure, I have a patient that was dead set against trainwreck, till he tried some of mine....now it's his nightime go to......

Kinda what I meant when I said it's more the grower than anything in producing top shelf meds......not that mine are top-shelf but you understand.....

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I'm not that really proves what you are asserting - there's too many variables. Maybe the TW he tried were inbred F5s. Maybe they came from different breeders. Even if they came from the same breeder they could have different parents if they didn't come from the same generation. The only way to remove the genetic variable would be to grow clones from the same plant and compare the end result.

Back 20 years or so i put some plants (all clones i got from a friend) outdoors in a few spots. As it turns out one of the spots was awesome (good soil conditions, lots of sunlight, etc.) and one kinda sucked (in retrospect, it probably had really acidic soil as it was on the edge of a pine grove). The plants in the great spot came out awesome, the plants from the poor spot looked like hell. You could easily tell the difference between the finished products when they were in the bag. In a joint it was hard to tell the difference. After the joint it was even harder to tell the difference.

there are many, many caregivers/growers that have trouble drying and curing meds...if you screw up drying your meds are gonna be crap no matter what the genetics are...

that's all falls on the grower and that's more my point than anything.....many people think that indoor growing is a piece of cake and turn out crap....

The Drying & curing is key. Your environment has lots to do with tast and quality, also if you have a house tha smells of cats and dogs and try to dry or cure you will not have quality.

This is what I think anyway.

hey guys this has nothing to do with me but couldn't help but ask, how do you define a caregiver and differentiate between them and a drug dealer? i ask this for several reasons:
1 you give a caregiver an alloted number of plants to grow for you yet you have to but the end product back at a profit for the care giver?
2 surely if you were trying to help somebody you would split the amount of end product down the middle or what ever percentage is needed for the patient and then the excess would be sold to cover expenses?
3 for a seasoned grower the expense per oz to produce is low and certainly not in the 100's of dollars category, so how does one consider themselves a caregiver making a living of the sick and possibly non-able bodied person that is in need of help?
like i said it's nothing to do with me but i live in the uk and it's illegal here full stop and if things were to change i'd have a hard time calling someone a caregiver when the differences between them and a dealer is simply a better deal.
to the op grow your own in future and benefit your own pocket, we all start somewhere and the best part of growing is that generally it only gets better with time and love.
best wishes to all

That sounds like bad logic to me. so all doctors are drug dealers any place that has med is now a drug dealer, No sorry I dont see it your way at all. Ido think it dose get it cost less over time but there are many hiden cost that have to be coverd.