completely forgot when i started flower

Kush Knight

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chuck estevez said:
if you don't understand the easy pictures, then i can't help you,good luck
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I understand them. Their very similar to the graphics glencoe uses.
The thing is, I don't think you get them, seeing as you always fail to link the diagram with an explanation as to why it relates to the topic, and how it relates to the other processes.
Quit using pictures to try and explain. Its very incomplete data.
Cannasutraorganics said:
I have a few strains I get $25 a gram. $400 an ounce. In Cali. $50 clones. $500 for a 3 foot plant. 4 years ago we were getting up to $5400 a pound. Those days are gone in Cali.
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I've come across a few buds like that. Worth it.
I guess I should mention this was some average organic soil grown bubba that I bought 1/2 oz for $25 (would be at least $85 from anyone else) from my good friends. I smoked all but a gram, and got back most my money lol.
I also got rid of a bowl (maybe .7 grams) of hydro afghan kush i got for free for $15 and some food. Stupid stoners, gotta love'em.

"This is really really potent stuff. It goes for $40-50 ($30 +tax in reality) a gram at the dispensaries the growers sell to. I can do 8 for the first gram and 12 for every gram after." That has worked for me. Just don't expect repeat customers.
 
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Cannasutraorganics

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chuck estevez said:
running a perpetual, I sell zips for $200 and that is wholesale, you do the math
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Not bad. I run perpetual. 1.5 to 2.5 pounds a week. Ounces of small lower buds start at $150 up to $240. B grade $180-$280. A grade 280-$400+. Im still making more on clones.... Lol
Kush Knight said:
How much? Double-blown? Color changing?
Will resin buildup affect taste? Secret preview maybe?????
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Out of pyrex and they will start around $110. I'm working on a smaller and bigger design. After we will do colors. And swirls and lots of other things. And eventually I'll release one that attaches to a oxygen tank...... Planning on entering it in the San fran cup next year.
 
Kush Knight

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Cannasutraorganics said:
Not bad. I run perpetual. 1.5 to 2.5 pounds a week. Ounces of small lower buds start at $150 up to $240. B grade $180-$280. A grade 280-$400+. Im still making more on clones.... Lol

Out of pyrex and they will start around $110. I'm working on a smaller and bigger design. After we will do colors. And swirls and lots of other things. And eventually I'll release one that attaches to a oxygen tank...... Planning on entering it in the San fran cup next year.
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Sounds dangerous, but good. Wheres the O2 being introduced?
 
Kush Knight

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Cannasutraorganics said:
Easy to clean.
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I mention because so many people don't/refuse to clean their glass. Imagine a hammer pipe that never knew water and gets heavy use for a year straight between cleanings.

Also I know the pH must be insane on the surface of the glass, but can't bacteria still form?
 
Kush Knight

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Cannasutraorganics said:
In a chamber above the bowl. Right after the smaller oriface. The oriface size has been a our most changed over time.
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It should allow for bigger faster acting hits, but O2 is a combustion hazard. And wont the hits be thinner? It'll definitely be a connoisseur's pipe. I know people (my mom, and step-brother and his gf sometimes) who complain about every hit they take, and would definitely find something to bitch about.
 
DutchHaze

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for what its worth, here is the article I was referencing:

http://www.hightimes.com/read/key-points-harvest-time

it was the starches and sugers that go down to the roots in dark period(according to this article, I have no f***ing clue to be honest.)


'Timing the harvest is Paramount to the final quality. Harvest your precious buds in the dark, just before the lights normally come on. If possible, do not allow the plants to see direct light as long as their roots are attached. Direct light on a plant will draw up stored starches and sugars from the root system.
During the nighttime hours, our ladies are busy storing food down in their root system that they made during the daylight hours. During “lights out," starches and sugars produced by photosynthesis during the day drain downward to the roots. Knowing this, it is easy to figure out that you want to cut your plants away from the roots before the lights come on, when food moves back upward into the buds. '

^from the article, not my words
 
chuck estevez

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I like how in that articale, which must be true if it's in high times(lol) he says to bust a branch and taste it, How about checking it with a brix meter, because it is glucose and starches that make for bitter taste. Simply go burn some dry nutes and some sugar, then again, STFU
 
DutchHaze

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chuck, you come off as a pretty odd fella. you are in the newb section spewing all kinds of ridiculous facts, which I don't doubt are true. im sure you know your stuff. but again...newb section. how bout answers newbs will understand? as for the article, im sure there have been instances where high times has an agenda to push. not sure what they have to gain from telling people to harvest at the wrong time. its a guide aimed towards new growers, with concepts new growers will understand.

I have 1 successful grow(see avatar) and im halfway through my second. ive never heard the word 'brix meter' in my life. im sure its a cool tool, but im also sure ill never buy or use one. you got any knowledge you want to drop that newbs can use and understand? or you wanna show off your vast superior knowledge some more?
 
chuck estevez

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DutchHaze said:
chuck, you come off as a pretty odd fella. you are in the newb section spewing all kinds of ridiculous facts, which I don't doubt are true. im sure you know your stuff. but again...newb section. how bout answers newbs will understand? as for the article, im sure there have been instances where high times has an agenda to push. not sure what they have to gain from telling people to harvest at the wrong time. its a guide aimed towards new growers, with concepts new growers will understand.

I have 1 successful grow(see avatar) and im halfway through my second. ive never heard the word 'brix meter' in my life. im sure its a cool tool, but im also sure ill never buy or use one. you got any knowledge you want to drop that newbs can use and understand? or you wanna show off your vast superior knowledge some more?
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a brix meter measures sugars and starches, which are what makes for bad taste. If you look at the pictures I posted, It is for newbies to understand, that is why I use the pictures, i mean C;mon, it's a picture explaining how plants and nutrients work, i wrote it out in one of my first posts. Buds don't store nutrients, nutrients are first broken down into a charged particle, also known as a ion, I also posted the explanation of this.
 
chuck estevez

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chuck estevez said:
please study very closely




Cations and anions are both ions. The difference between a cation and an anion is the net electrical charge of the
ion .

Ions are atoms or molecules which have gained or lost one or more valence electronsgiving the ion a net positive or negative charge.

Cations are ions with a net positive charge.

Silver: Ag + , hydronium: H 3 O + , and ammonium: NH 4 +

Anions are ions with a net negative charge.

Examples: hydroxide anion: OH - , oxide anion: O 2- , and sulfate anion: SO 4 2-
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for those that missed it, In the second picture, notice the yellow part is the plant root. also notice the word used to take in these ions is absorption
 
DutchHaze

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so I still don't know your position on time of day to harvest. sounds like you are saying it doesn't matter?
 
chuck estevez

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cut and paste from that thread

Nutrient movement and mobility inside the plant:

Besides endocytosis, there are two major pathways inside the plant, the xylem and the phloem. When water and minerals are absorbed by plant roots, these substances must be transported up to the plant's stems and leaves for photosynthesis and further metabolic processes. This upward transport happens in the xylem. While the xylem is able to transport organic compounds, the phloem is much more adapted to do so.

The organic compounds thus originating in the leaves have to be moved throughout the plant, upwards and downwards, to where they are needed. This transport happens in the phloem. Compounds that are moving through the phloem are mostly:
Sugars as sugary saps, organic nitrogen compounds (amino acids and amides, ureides and legumes), hormones and proteins.

http://www.sirinet.net

Not all nutrient compounds are moveable within the plant.

1) N, P, K, Mg and S are considered mobile: they can move up and down the plant in both xylem and phloem.
Deficiency appears on old leaves first.

2) Ca, Fe, Zn, Mo, B, Cu, Mn are considered immobile: they only move up the plant in the xylem.
Deficiency appears on new leaves first.

http://generalhorticulture.tamu.edu

Storage organelles:

Salts and organic metabolites can be stored in storage organelles. The most important storage organelle is the vacuole, which can contribute up to 90% of the cell volume. The majority of compounds found in the vacuole are sugars, polysaccharides, organic acids and proteins though.
 
chuck estevez

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DutchHaze said:
? so when do you cut down your plant in relation to the light cycle?
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Don't know, I pour boiling hot ass water over my roots, wait 3 days and chop. read that thread and you will know why. or think about all the talk about SUGAR in the plant and how do you break down sugars and starches.
 
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