Co2 for clones good or bad ?

Dr. Who said:

You seem to like to read...so ok, don't take my word for it. READ THESE - really read them!

https://www.rollitup.org/t/no-lower-budsites-do-not-need-light-to-develop-get-educated.829061/

https://www.rollitup.org/t/light.853779/

......If you don't know who Uncle Ben really IS...then your labeling of MASTER GROWERS all over the world is crap......Jorge Cervantes says NO to even fan leaf removing ....Isn't HE a "master grower" who writes books?

Look, I'm only giving you a place to read about a counter view and it's BY master growers! TAKE A LOOK!

This is not an argument. This is me sharing info put better then I can right now, with my blood pressure up (not by you for the most part. HAVAC company pushed my instal back again).

I agree we disagree!

Ignore has begun

Doc
"Crazy Shit"

BTW, some of your answers are pretty good.. I am finding some "respect".... I'm adding crazy shit to my sign off.....In honor of you....

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Jorge Cervantes does talk about defoliation and selective leaf removal. He might not defoliate to the extent others do. He is also only one person amongst many master growers.

Ed Rosenthal defoliates, Kyle Kushman defoliates plants almost completely at certain times. I could go on and on but those are house hold names ppl will know. Im sure you watched or seen Remo the Urban Grower the majn AN grower jn Canada allof them defoliate. Erik Biksa I could go on and on. These are world reknown growers in the industry. So telling me one person out of 5 that I mentioned say not too so what.

Like I said its a never ending argument, you dont need to do it. But if people want to do it and they do it properly it works. Like i said before you dont need to defoliate outdoors, this is an indoor technique used to increase yields. Where space, height and light is a limiting factor. Focusing all energy onto light penetration and defoliation increases yields its a proven fact theres nothing to argue about. Everyone I know does it, I do it and many others also use this technique to increase yields indoors.

Thank you

greasemonkeymann said:

I was just clarifying, no need for the ass-pain.


Just making sure I got you fully, I tend to have problems digesting certain... um... theories.
a 10% resin increase for simply not giving them water for the last three days!
Wow, I gotta try that!

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Yeah try it out. Obviously not every plant is gonna get that much increase but it will increase resing production if you do those few things. Remove all fan leaves final week of flush, Let them dry out completely 3 days, lower humidity down to 35% and turn lights off for final 24-36 hours. And u will get a bast increase in resin and trich production. This is sceintifically proven and has been researched and studied and it works.

Any time u stress a plant during flowering whats is its natural defense mechanism? It produces resins that coat the flowers to ward off insects and animals. They also produce resins to stop light penetration that harm the flowers. Especially uv-b lighting. Plants will increase resins to coat and protect the pistils and flowers. Resins insulate the plants from losing moisture and protecting it from high heat and winds be reflecting it off the flowers. So obviously using these stress techniques will enhance trich and resin production.

Idk the exact numbers but thats a ball park increase that has been noticed in lab studies. I didnt say ur increasing thc content by 10% i said it increases resin content making them appear frostier because it coats the flowers for protection. Its not a hard concept to understand its fairly simple and straight forward

so, is c02 good for clones or not?

I'm with Doc on this one, this guy is a know it all, just like pik booster2, He takes over threads and acts like he is new, but has info like he's been here for a while.
His views are that of a nute salesman, can't stand em.

My winter grow this year, in a semi-sealed room, with a semi-sealed cloning cabinet within, received no fresh air except 0 to 2 times a day when I would open the door for seconds to check on them. During flower, that same grow. I turned over the rooms air 3-4 times a day, running my exhaust/passive intake for 5 minutes. The grow was MORE than fine. Finer with more co2? Maybe.

rollitup said:

Fine, "Doc" we've heard from you. Thanks for that, and we'll also thank you for ignoring this thread from now on. Your antagonistic responses are detracting from the subject. We've heard your emphasized rants, and you are not being respectful.

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Sorry Boss.....I got pissed at his retort to the alternative "Sweet" formula I gave..
I lost respect for him a few threads back.....
He is ignored from now on.

rollitup said:

Fine, "Doc" we've heard from you. Thanks for that, and we'll also thank you for ignoring this thread from now on. Your antagonistic responses are detracting from the subject. We've heard your emphasized rants, and you are not being respectful.

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I would safely say the disrespect is being reciprocated though.
Some misdirected even.

Truth4:20 said:

Everyone's a scientist.

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He could not be MORE wrong either....lol

It definitely helps in a stealth situation but timing is critical... The clones must be past their transitional period and all needs to be scaled up accordingly which is sometimes a bit tricky (I use a time drip system and never exceed 1000ppm co2 ) while measuring nutrient fluctuation to nail the sweet spot... very hard to teach actually unless you have mapping of strain principles down

D.O and nute temps must be optimum though or you won't get that seamless transition and end up oxymoroning yourself...

it's also very effective at reducing moss...

PEOPLE STILL FLUSH? ohhh dear

Wouldn't a few deep breaths into one of the vents, closing straight after, 2-3 times a day be just as good? Or am I overestimateing how much c02 we exhale?

jonro said:

Wouldn't a few deep breaths into one of the vents, closing straight after, 2-3 times a day be just as good? Or am I overestimateing how much c02 we exhale?

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Yes, your over estimating.