Co2 Extracted Concentrait.

Discussion in 'Advanced Marijuana Cultivation' started by andrewq, Jul 4, 2011.

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    andrewq

    andrewq Member

    hello everyone I have a 5 pounds of trim from my uncle up north and I was wondering how I can do Co2 extacted wax and hash because my friend recently had some nitro co2 og wax and he threw some of that stuff on skillet fo me and two skillet tokes I was damn faded. And I heard co2 extacted has no metals unlike butane
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    808toker

    808toker Active Member

    Well you would have to build your own supercritical co2 extraction chamber and compress and heat the co2 utill it turns into a liquid then run that liquid through your herb and collect that ad evaporite the co2 out like bho....not worth the work....make bubble hash waaaaaaaaaay better imo then aaallll other concentrates...except maybe keif is the shit too. oil is too unnatural to me...and it sky rockets your tolerance
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    zhn0k

    zhn0k Active Member

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    WattSaver

    WattSaver Well-Known Member

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    Haze2C

    Haze2C Member

    Ya buddy! I don't add anything to my sweet goodness. tumble sift and smoke my friends Photo07030933.jpg
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    oilmkr420

    oilmkr420 Active Member

    bro im sorry it took like a year to post a how to video on youtube. it can be done and i have all the recipies for an array of oils, waxes, concentrates. co2 is the shit. it cost less, yields more, potency is noticably enhanced, cleaner, fresher taste, etc. 5 lbs would take about 500 lbs of co2 to completely extract all delta 9 thc from it. not ideal for trimmings as you would want it done on flower extract instead. its cool to learn on trim, but buds is where oil making is really at. you can hit me up for any scf needs you may have in the near future, as times are changing along w peoples preference for clean product.

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    oilmkr420

    oilmkr420 Active Member

    thats pretty tight, but idk about 25,000 bucks worth. my systems start about $300 and up. depending on vessel size. youtube "420 honey oil extraction co2"
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    Guile

    Guile Active Member

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    oilmkr420

    oilmkr420 Active Member

    Forget all the extra stuff u mentioned, just use the tank as a reaction chamber. Fill tank w crushed dry ice, near the top add like half a pound of ground trim, thread the valve back on. I throw my vessel in a pool in case of mishap. Check out my video youtube 420 honey oil extraction co2. That's my small scale I learned from and scaled it up since. I love co2 extractions. Way funner.
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    Guile

    Guile Active Member

    Wouldn't there be an advantage to keeping the CO2 liquid and warm throughout the entire extraction process? I also kind of see the large pipe cap opening at the top as a useful feature (if nothing else) simply because it would make ir easier to fill/empty..

    It would also seem that with your scuba tank setup could experience some really low temperatures that might alter its integrity, with my design everything above the shut off valve should remain warm (assuming you continue to apply pressure as you slowly drain the tank through the valve underneath).. The 2500-3000psi safety burst disk seems kinda nice too (peace of mind you know)...
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    oilmkr420

    oilmkr420 Active Member

    That's the temp we max out @. So you can vary the fill amount to vary temp up 2 149 degrees, but obey max psi. A tank bursting in our face would kill you and anyone near could also be killed. I'm desiegning a scfe rated at 10,000 psi and safety features are a must. Pressure relief valves, check valves, rupture disks are some that will be included in case 1 fails I have a back up plan ready. The vessels weaken at 350 degreese f. Co2xtrations don't go above 149 degrees.
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    Guile

    Guile Active Member

    What do you find to be the best ratio of trim to dry ice? I was originally thinking that you might want to favor the ice but we are only need to create a slurry right? so half the volume of trimmings would probably do right?
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    oilmkr420

    oilmkr420 Active Member

    5 lbs dry ice : 28 grams of pot is excellent. the process be repeatable to further extract what wasnt extracted the 1st time.
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    oilmkr420

    oilmkr420 Active Member

    there is 45 grams of ethanol added to that formula.
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    oilmkr420

    oilmkr420 Active Member

    wtf i didnt reply in this quote.
    not true, i smoke alot of co2 extracts, flower extracts not scrap trim. i tell you bob marley smoked 2 joints, i got it down to 1/4 joint- then im toast. ive been smoking heavy co2 concentrates since ive been extracting w co2 over a year ago.
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    oilmkr420

    oilmkr420 Active Member

    Subcritical is a more selective extraction. I favor this method over scfe because its stoneyer. Scfe is done for yields over potency. Practice till its always as you expect it, and get good at trimmings. When u got it down try a 1/4 ounce of flower tops. Way better than trimmings.cosub2 can be done w an argon tank packed to 3,000 psi @ 70 degrees farhenhiet. When you get about 1/2 tank, then you have pressure space available and can raise the temp to a supercritical region on standby ready to release any sudden spikes of 500 psi or more.
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    oilmkr420

    oilmkr420 Active Member

    There are several main advantages using co2 as a solvent. I dont mean jacking off a bubble bag either. Using it as a solvent in this instance means to put it through dynamic changes. Whem the co2 starts its life as a solid gas, we then pressurize a vessel and it becomes a subcritical liquid which I prefer to be carried out at in a swimming pool at about 65-75 degrees farhenhiet from 12-24 hrs. In case shit hits the fan, we want the swimming pool to absorb most of the impact of the explosion. I've never done my math incorrectly to where I've used the pool as a impact absorber rather than a water bathe. So if heat were applied at a stable room temperature, you could further heat it useing a washer machine or large trash cans with hot water from the fosset. Have a gauge and be on standby to relieve any sudden spikes or increases to max psi. This would be a Supercritical Fluid Extraction (scfe)co2. it furthermore went through changes and became a supercritical fluid. When we release the pressure it will revert back into a snow, different than the parent snow. So the main reasons i feel its green uses are more than just trendy are cost. At $1.30 a lbs at smart"n"final, I get co2 way less suspisiously than buying 10-12 cans of butane. Also, the FDA states co2 as a direct food ingredient making it even more desirable to use. In fact, the solvents I use to extract are so gentle, at worst case senario, if ingested they would be a little drunk. So I went from chemical extractions to food grade extractions. No fire precautions, and I fire em up while I extract, too!!! Fast turnaround times. More importantly is the potency of the product. So much so, i willingly pepsi challenge any other extractions w confidence. I had told someone once to try the wax I made, he told me it looked like I wiped my ass with it. So I brought him some stuff that looked discharged from his vagina!! Golden yellow. He blushed and I'm sure felt all wet down there!!! theres other reasons but those are just some of the more important ones. will edit when I'm not so stuck on stupid.
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    Guile

    Guile Active Member

    Local to me dry ice sells for $30-$35 per 50Lbs, blocks are (10"x10"x11" ) otherwise "nuggets" are available for the same price 60-70 cents a pound (assuming quantity's of 50lbs or more)'

    I roughly figure (biased on the info here) that you can pull 2 extractions out of a QP (112gr) of trim using 50lbs of dry ice ($35 worth). Half the dry ice (25lbs) and 1 cup ethanol? for each pass..

    If you were to use a 4" sch 40 steel pipe it would need to be atleast 6' long to accommodate this volume (perhaps a bit more depending on how fine your "nuggets" are).

    You have convinced me that the Nitrox is unnecessary. (to be honest I had a brain fart earlier worrying about sub critical temperatures inside the vessel from gassing off during the extraction, but I'm not stoned yet today and see how silly that was) it seems only the pressure gauge from a nitrox tank (4500psi) and the burst valve from a Co2 tank (2500-3000psi) would be required (so you know in advance if you need to take cover) Also the small shut off valve of course. The hardest part will be drilling and tapping the holes..

    Swimming pools and warm temperatures aren't as common up this end of things so I have a feeling the heat tape and some sort of thermostat would be necessary (otherwise converting an old gas hot water heater might work).

    45 grams at 0.789 grams per milliliter would equal 57 milliliters, almost 2 ounces or 1/4 cup (for each oz of trim?)
    Why the ethanol though? Why so much? Does it make for a less selective extraction?

    This is just surprising the way I'm seeing it, after an initial investment of $200 (or less) you could be processing your trimmings for under $5 an oz... You could even make multiple extraction vestals and process a pound (or more) at a time using a single converted water heater.
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    oilmkr420

    oilmkr420 Active Member

    ethyl alcohol is used for two reasons. first to cover the non-targeted areas co2 doesnt cover fatty acid of methyl esthers (fame). second it is used for taste preservation. Its used all over in extractions for scents and flavors. you really want everclear or moonshine75%-100% ethyl alcohol, 200 proof if possable. with cosub2 i never woory about rupturing anything because i use a co2 tank 20 cf and comply with its capabilities. i put 5 lbs exactly + 2% alcohol is 46 grams of co-solvent. known yellow product formula. believe that stray away and youll start crossing light green oil @ like 5% needing treatment w activated charcoal and diatomatious earth. to absorb impurities and filter microbials to decoloration.
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    oilmkr420

    oilmkr420 Active Member

    dont ever drill holes into a pressure vessel. those holes, those would be threads, all weaken the integrity of the vessel. steel is better than aluminum and ive found 2,000 - 3,000 psi very effective in removing thc. long resident time between maxtrix and scf is much better than rushing the extraction in a ten minute interval. i like 12-24 hrs, at a stable room temperature is really where its at. so theres different processes for co2 extractions. coffee, ginkoba, nicotine, chilles, all have a different extraction process and different pressures they willingly release their goods. i have pulled three extractions off the same plant matter and when someone thought my herb was spent, i showed how much was still in there. i have done 16% yields this way. nice yields. dont make things complicated w trying to engineer something laid out so simple. cga valves have burst disks. just use a 20cf tank or bigger and fill it w the same amount of dry ice as it would hold liquid co2. your safe @ room temp and i believe up to 152 degrees, may want to double check that, may be 120 degrees farenhiet.

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