CO2 BAGS cheap, easy, all natural 2,000ppm in a 10 x 10 area

https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/285895-fungus-spores-soil-co2-6-a.html

dutc2006 said:

I got a response from RogerRabbit, a real mycologist on the forum. You can consider him the foremost leader in mycology, he's been growing for decades and almost anybody that is growing mushrooms in the world can thank him because his research has influenced every technique that exists for growing mushrooms. Here is his post copied and pasted from the Shroomery:

"Absolutely bullshit, period.

The CO2 content inside a spawn bag can reach 20,000 ppm, but that's INside a bag of less than 1 cubic foot. I currently have over 500 of those spawn bags in my grow area and the CO2 level of the air is barely above ambient. Don't buy into this internet scam. It's not based on mycology, but on ripping off those who don't know any better.
RR"

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Nice spam. Same guy is posting this same shit in the general forum, funny most of the guys that are ordering it just joined and have 10 posts.

different fungus strains grow in different conditions and the magical ones grow at very similar temps to what is best for a normal grow.. the 90+ temps that make co2 beneficial would kill most magic varieties though.. they grow (in the mycellium stage) fastest at around 78 degrees iirc
and they do produce co2 for sure

beyond that i can't say

dunno what kind of fungi is in that bag... the theory is sound... i always thought growing them in a shared air space would be nice since one uses co2 and the other oxygen and each makes the opposite. but i don't know if you'll produce those kinds of ppms

Well I have been using it in my closet for a week now and I have seen no real change.

so the verdict is in they are no good

don't you have to jack your temps up to the 80s to get any use out of more than ambient co2 anyway?

as in.. the chemical reactions taking place only happen fast enough over 80 to use any extra co2
unless this is just to supplement a closed environment

You don't have to put it up high. Yes its heavier then air. But everyone has a circulation fan right? Its not that much heavier, like Argon is. Remember its a greenhouse gas, it makes its way, WAY up high naturally via air currents. (H)CFCs are also heavier then air and get up there too.

This sounds like the CO2 bucket. Anyone ever heard of that? http://www.gtghydroponics.com/store/0-0-1036.htm It is way expensive, but I've always want to try it.

wow 144$
all it is is sugar yeast and water with an air stone to keep it moving i could make that for 25$

i have shrooms growing in my grow closet right now and they are growing fine.just cant have direct light.....didnt think they could be producing co2..bonus

THATS THE POINT we dont thinks its doing much of anything

but

i dont know yet why it wouldnt because it is basicly the same as the sugar yeast method
living oganisms producing co2 as a byproduct

bump....i wanna see what some other people have to say

I sent them an e-mail asking about the spores leaking from the bag and into the grow room and this was the reply I got:

The bag has a filter that will only let CO2 out. No spores will be produced as this is a non-fruiting strain of mycelium. Even if there were spores none would be able to escape because of the way the filter is designed.

and btw I'm tempted to buy two of these..

If you are actually interested in figuring this out check http://forums.mycotopia.net/general-discussions/9626-company-selling-mycelium-co2-generator-plants.html it was posted on 04-08-06.

Company selling mycelium as CO2 generator for plants?
Came across this recently.
co2boost.com
I watched the tour video, and I'll be damned if I didn't see rows and rows of spawn bags with filter patches. They send you one, it cranks out CO2 for 60 days, then you buy another one for a HUNDRED bucks. Yep, $100 for a bucket of spawn. They spawn the bags, wait until fully colonized, and then freeze the bags. When you order one, they drop it in a box to you. By the time it arrives it's thawed and ready to start growing (making CO2) again.

I figure it's probably Stropharia rugoso-annulata, since it can tolerate a freeze (I think...) and won't fruit the way they sell it to you (fruiting would certainly give away their secret!). Plus I'd bet they use wood chips/sawdust which might emit more CO2 since it's a higher density substrate.

Once people catch on to the bucket, I bet traffic to this and other mushroom sites picks up so people can learn how to clone whatever strain they use and make their own. Buy it once and you're set. A hundred bucks for a colonized spawn bag. Wow. Herb (I mean tomatoes) and fungus were obviously made for each other...

I'm sure y'all can take it from here...

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Okay so just the first post quoted and we can deduce that CO2boost has been around for a while.

You can also deduce that CO2boost is not sugar and yeast. It is colonized spawn on a grow medium (possible a medium that helps to produce more CO2).

kiss-assNow since CO2boost has been around for over 4 years and they have been able to up there pricing (Note replacement buckets were $25 now $100). If they are able to raise the price it is safe to assume that they are thriving as a business. It also has been mentioned that the key to CO2boost is the fan built in to the unit to circulate the CO2.

This is obviously just a smaller scale version of CO2boost.

After a quick search through Google I found the bags http://shop.ebay.com/items/spawn bags?_dmd=1&_sop=12&rvr_id=&MT_ID=69&crlp=2981169636_1&tt_encode=raw&geo_id=1&keyword=spawn+bags&adgroup_id=1054715676
Hell the bags a cheap enough.
100 bags = $48.00
Stropharia rugoso-annulata spores = 25 Euros
http://sporeworks.com/store/product.php?productid=16170
A grow medium which can be whatever you want..

I would say its safe to use in a grow room since the bags are made to keep the spores in and let the CO2 out. As to how much it would produce I have no idea, and for how long they last that would be on the genetics of the mushrooms you choose to use.

It is easy enough to make your own bags.
Yet you have to remember that convenience is key to a lot of people.



I do not work for or endorse either of these products. I just cant stand to see people looking for the information when its readily available all over the net.

might be a legit biz one would have to order to find out. i would be willing and i like the fact they have Paypal as an option to pay with. the site seems really plain tho. but for less then 40 bux with UPS shipping is not bad.

Its a scam. Dont waste your money. Im not saying that it doesn't produce co2, composting material does. But there is no way that a rotting bag of compost can produce optimum levels of co2.

Im amazed at people's willingness to throw money around without doing the proper research.

If you all want some real growing equipment Im selling magic bags that are no bigger than a quarter that produces unlimitless co2, and charms that are placed next to plants that make them grow buds the size of watermelons.

IndieGrower said:

Its a scam. Dont waste your money. Im not saying that it doesn't produce co2, composting material does. But there is no way that a rotting bag of compost can produce optimum levels of co2.

Im amazed at people's willingness to throw money around without doing the proper research.

If you all want some real growing equipment Im selling magic bags that are no bigger than a quarter that produces unlimitless co2, and charms that are placed next to plants that make them grow buds the size of watermelons.

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Send me your paypal info.

I am interested in these charms, what is the material, and size?

Just kidding but this does seem like a waste of money, has anyone actually used this and measured the difference in PPM with use?

I am amazed that people think that Fungi = Rotting compost.
Inoculated medium does not = rotting compost.
Not once has it been said or proven that they are using rotting compost.

CO2 is a by-product of Fungi metabolizing.

There is no question of if it produces CO2 its how much does it produce.

it's totally impossible that a life form could produce co2 at the same rate another life form uses it... i don't need to back that up with any data because we all know i'm right... yours truly... most of the people in this thread

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that's you people... spouting out "facts"... no real evidence of any kind... no real understanding of the actions taking place... just spouting